US Administrations Air Force One Debacle

bobnoorduyn

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Idiot. No-one says anything if it's a low flying aircraft. But, when it's a low flying large aircraft with fighters tailing it it is a situation that isn't common.

It isn't that uncommon either, we are often visited by the RAF and a VC-10 even did a flypast over downtown shadowed by 2 Tornados, someone snapped a picture, (because it is an odd looking aircraft by today's standards) and sent it to the local paper and that was about it.

Besides that, you people, you weren't in NYC when those pl;anes hit the buildings. Easy to sit back in your comfy chairs and pass judgement on New Yorkers who were there.

You don't know where everyone was on that morning, I certainly know where I was, but that's not the point. The point is that life has to go on at some point and we can't live paralyzed in fear forever.

I have seen things happen that put people in deep trauma. It isn't as easy to get over as you think.

So have I, and I've been there too, but I never expected the rest of the world to grind to a halt while I dealt with it.
 

gerryh

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Don't bother, Durk. gh just likes trolling. He keeps trying it and everyone keeps shutting him down. He ran away when I posted a pic of his gf. lol


you sharing goats with dorka now? doc is gonna be so upset.
 

L Gilbert

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It isn't that uncommon either, we are often visited by the RAF and a VC-10 even did a flypast over downtown shadowed by 2 Tornados, someone snapped a picture, (because it is an odd looking aircraft by today's standards) and sent it to the local paper and that was about it.
It's fairly uncommon in the States.

You don't know where everyone was on that morning, I certainly know where I was, but that's not the point. The point is that life has to go on at some point and we can't live paralyzed in fear forever.
Not the point? You think that there's no-one left in New York that was there on Sept 11 when the planes hit the buildings? Of course life has to go on, but sometimes things remind people of a moment that brought them sadness, or horror, etc. I don't know if you've lost a loved one 7 or 8 years ago, but I am pretty sure if you had, you wouldn't want to be reminded of how you felt.

So have I, and I've been there too, but I never expected the rest of the world to grind to a halt while I dealt with it.
I doubt New Yorkers expected the world to stop either. I don't think they need their own administration giving them reminders about the incident, though. Especially when it is not necessary. And I don't think the newsmedia shows much tact when they blow the issue out of proportion either.
 

bobnoorduyn

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It's fairly uncommon in the States.

What? The US has more military aircraft than Canada has civilian. It is quite common to hear air traffic control conversing with "[Military call sign] plus one", or "plus two, three or four" indicating a lead with others in formation. Midair refuelling is also a common sight, you just have to be watchful.

Not the point? You think that there's no-one left in New York that was there on Sept 11 when the planes hit the buildings? Of course life has to go on, but sometimes things remind people of a moment that brought them sadness, or horror, etc. I don't know if you've lost a loved one 7 or 8 years ago, but I am pretty sure if you had, you wouldn't want to be reminded of how you felt.

It was tragic to be sure, but unfortuantely we have no control over how another feels, only the individual does. If we have to adjust our civilization to be sure we don't offend the sensitivities of others the world certainly will grind to a halt. We simply can't stop aircraft from flying any more than we can stop trains from blowing their whistles at level crossings because it may remind folks out here of the carnage caused by vandals throwing a switch on the tracks derailing a passenger train. Expecting others to adjust their lives so as not to remind me of certain events would be selfish, wouldn't it? Though that is not the same as taking precautions to prevent a repeat occurance though, as long as they are sensible.

And I don't think the newsmedia shows much tact when they blow the issue out of proportion either.

With that I can certainly agree, personally I think this was a tempest in a teapot fed by news agencies on a slow news day. I've seen enough American news to know how they like to sensationalize little or nothing in the name of ratings.
 

CDNBear

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Irrational fears and paranoia - especially this long after the fact - means the terrorists have won and you might as well die and get it over with.
Bingo!!! Funny, I said the same thing in the other thread on this, here and else where, here, it just slid by. Else where I was inundated with insults. ;-)

With that I can certainly agree, personally I think this was a tempest in a teapot fed by news agencies on a slow news day. I've seen enough American news to know how they like to sensationalize little or nothing in the name of ratings.
Hallaluya brother!!! Can I get an "Amen"?