“Unless You’re A Native American, You Came From Someplace Else”

Locutus

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There ya have it kids. It's official. Barry Soetoro said so. :lol:



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hunboldt

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Texans tend to hold themselves in a much higher degree of importance that any body else does.


No kidding! Only people I've ever met that are PROUD that their ancestors drove the native Wacos, Kronks, Tejans, etc, across the nearest borders.

Texas run firms are best given a WIDE berth whenever possible. along with their loud mouth 'demizens'. IMHO and experience...
 

Cliffy

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Me too. Don't come from a family that identifies with some long passed immigrant heritage either, some do which is fine, our just didn't. If that doesn't make me a Canadian native then I don't know what does.
Native is a very inaccurate word to use in the context of the OP. Aboriginal or indigenous would be far more accurate words to use when referring to original inhabitants. As we can see in this thread alone, native only confuses the issue. Also, I was told by one of the Nisga'a Treaty negotiators (on the Nisga'a side), First Nations is also an inaccurate and meaningless term in regards to international laws.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Native is a very inaccurate word to use in the context of the OP. Aboriginal or indigenous would be far more accurate words to use when referring to original inhabitants. As we cab see in this thread alone, native only confuses the issue.Also, I was told by one of the Nisga'a Treaty negotiators (on the Nisga'a side), First Nations is also an inaccurate and meaningless term in regards to international laws.
Deliberately choosing an unintended meaning of a word with more than one meaning is the feeblest of rhetorical tools.

It demonstrates that the speaker is either stupid or avoiding honest debate, or both.
 

Cliffy

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Deliberately choosing an unintended meaning of a word with more than one meaning is the feeblest of rhetorical tools.

It demonstrates that the speaker is either stupid or avoiding honest debate, or both.
But very useful when intending to cloud an issue, wouldn't you say?
 

SLM

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Native is a very inaccurate word to use in the context of the OP. Aboriginal or indigenous would be far more accurate words to use when referring to original inhabitants. As we can see in this thread alone, native only confuses the issue. Also, I was told by one of the Nisga'a Treaty negotiators (on the Nisga'a side), First Nations is also an inaccurate and meaningless term in regards to international laws.

Well then maybe the individual who is quoted in the OP shouldn't have used that term, right?Someone sending out some 140 character "tweet" is hardly looking for discussion or debate on an issue, any issue.

As far as where I came from personally, that would be here. This land. Canada. If you go back far enough in anyone's family tree you'll find the migration from 'somewhere else'. It's a pretty pointless exercise really.
 

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Me too. Don't come from a family that identifies with some long passed immigrant heritage either, some do which is fine, our just didn't. If that doesn't make me a Canadian native then I don't know what does.

That begs the questions of how does one define 'aboriginal, FN or native' and how long does an inhabitant have to be here in order to qualify?

Everyone came from somewhere - no one just evolved as a parallel species in a geographical area
 

SLM

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That begs the questions of how does one define 'aboriginal, FN or native' and how long does an inhabitant have to be here in order to qualify?

Statements like the OP completely obscure the issues surrounding FN or aboriginal or native or whatever the moniker du jour, the people who already happened to be here when the Europeans arrived. Because the last thing it's really about is the "we were here first" mentality, it is way, way more complex than that.

Everyone came from somewhere - no one just evolved as a parallel species in a geographical area
Exactly. How far do you go back? The cradle of civilization or do we trace it all the way back to Lucy?