UN Denied Private Access to Bradley Manning

earth_as_one

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Which brings us to the topic discussed on another thread: Lock him up for life and let him think about what he's done in solitary. Out of compassion he should be given an unbreakable mirror, so he can see himself and cry.



How were the Allied Prisoners of War treated by the Japanese? Or the Germans?

Do Al Quaeda detainees deserve better? They were captured in civilian clothes. They never signed the Geneva Convention. In normal times, i.e, with no political correctness, they would have been shot on sight.


There are many reasons why allowing torture is a bad idea and not all of them have to do with compassion. Some of is about what type of a world we want to live in and self preservation.

For example, would you want a former Guantanamo Bay torturer living next to you? You better hope you don't piss them off, because their version of what's normal acceptable behavior could be pretty screwed up. Later, some of these screwed up people run for office and they try to impose their version of normal on the rest of us. Next thing we know we are flogging people and chopping off hands.

Also, its pretty hard for us to complain when our adversaries torture and execute captured soldiers, when we routinely torture and execute their soldiers.

Eventually what goes around, comes around...

LMAO. Borderline concentration camp! It's like Club Med for crying out loud. Soccer, sports, recreation, entertainment, places to pray, all the correct food, sun, warm tropical breezes. That is why I am so for closing down GITMO and splitting them up and move them to places like Marion IL., Attica, NY., Leavenworth KS., Pelican Bay, CA. I assure you, they will wish they were back in GITMO.

Alas, Obama refuses to honor his campiagn promise.



What about the prisoners in the Al Queda Camps? Oh wait... their aren't any. As anyone they catch gets their heads sawed off on camera as they are kicked and beaten to the words Alah Akbar. Then shown on Al Jezzera.

Nice huh Mental?
Actually, this treatment is far kinder than some of the things experienced by Guantanamo detainees. Imagine being drowned and revived over and over for days, weeks, and months. Eventually some of these detainees will be executed. Some have already died in custody.

If I understand you, you believe that we should become more like them. How does that make us better than them?

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"kicked and beaten, denied medical care, confined in small boxes, and physically and psychologically abused. "

"U.S. policy makers did not act in good faith to ensure that their enhanced interrogation techniques were “safe, legal, ethical and effective.” In fact, interrogations included unauthorized “acts of torture,”

“The abuses reported in this case series could not be practiced without the interrogators and medical monitors being aware of the severe and prolonged physical and mental pain that they caused,”

Guantanamo Doctors Ignored Signs of Prisoner Torture, Group Says - Bloomberg

Sounds like a wonderful place. Yet you guys choose to believe these people are living at a health spa as claimed by many of the same sources which claimed that Iraq had stockpiles of WMDs ready to be launched in minutes and were involved in the events of 9/11.

How often do you guys have to find out that we are being lied to constantly before you guys become skeptical?

gul·li·ble/ˈgələbəl/

Adjective: Easily persuaded to believe something; credulous.
 
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EagleSmack

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Actually, this treatment is far kinder than some of the things experienced by Guantanamo detainees. Imagine being drowned and revived over and over for days, weeks, and months. Eventually some of these detainees will be executed. Some have already died in custody.

You think having your head sawed off... while you are alive... gagging on your own blood is better treatment?

That is a kinder experience?