U.S. Weighing Readiness for Military Action Against Iran

Praxius

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With all respect why are we even in this mess, we are peace keepers. Aiding them will be great interest to those who's first and only intent was destroy and/or create paranoia in their country. I must disagree with you and we must get out of this. It's their problem and mess and was of their own doing to begin with, why should we share in their stupidity.

Because we joined with NATO a few years back and when NATO is called to go somewhere, we go with the rest of the nations in NATO. UN sanctioned us all to head into Afghanistan after the US's invasion. If we don't like it, then perhaps we should pull out of NATO and only go on missions Canada as a whole approves.

This is also why we have some countries currently in Afghanistan bickering back and forth and complaining about who's sending in more troops then who, and who's pulling more weight, etc.... because some of the nations over there now, including our own, don't care all that much for the original and even the current reasons of being there in the first place, hince the divisions and questions about NATO's future are coming into play.

But that's what you get when you start wars based on lies.
 

smdfaru

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Related to the Iraq War.

NBC news, Sunday, April 27.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24329380/

[Excerpt]

Lt. Col. Ricky Brown, the commander of the logistics battalion, gave a pep talk to a supply convoy last week, hinting at operations to come.
"You all are gonna move down there so the BLT (battalion landing team) can go in there and kick some Taliban butt," he said.

They have also been given directions to steer clear of the region's poppy fields so they don't risk alienating local farmers who rely on the cash crop for their income.

[Also 2 videos]

Afghan opium cultivation 'growing worse

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/20480740#20480740

Opium industry fuels Taliban comeback

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=b821c1d4-02bb-442c-abf9-1175ce401107

[My comments]

go in there and kick some Taliban butt"

but don't trample on the poppy seed plants

"Afghan opium cultivation 'growing worse."

"Opium industry fuels Taliban comeback"

6 years and 7 months since the attack on Afghanistan and this is where we are at--kick Taliban butt but don't disturb the poppy seed plants because the Taliban need that for their comeback. 6 years and 7 months since the attack for the purpose of eradicating terrorism, and helping to establish democracy in Afghanistan, and the main industry there is still planting and harvesting poppy for the production of opium.

The news article states that the reason for not trampling down the poppy plants is because it would infuriate the poppy farmers and incite them to join the Taliban. Golly! The farmers join the Taliban because there is no opium but the Taliban need the opium to operate. That puts the farmers "between a rock and a hard place" but at the same time it extricates the US from its "between a rock and a hard place," kick butt but don't trample on the poppy plants. Seems logical unless our government is concealing a part of the equation from us.

Establishing democracy in Afghanistan will never happen with opium production being the countries main industry and it should not have taken 6 years and 7 months, and counting, to come to grips with that.

As James Madison, 4th President of the United States, foretold for future America, "...we must rely upon the wisdom of the best elements in the country to readjust the laws of the nation to the changed conditions." Presently that is absent from the scene, there is a "no show" in the administration, a "no show" among the candidates campaigning for the presidency and a no foreseeable show in the coming new administration. If the "best elements" are absent from the leadership, that leaves only the people to step up in place of the leadership absentee "best elements".

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MikeyDB

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I've been saying since the Afghan debacle took form that the poppy fields should be doused with agent orange and eliminated as a source of funding for Taliban terrorists but instead of acknowledging the crop for what it is, you can bet that some major American pharmaceutical corporation has yanked the chain on "friends" at the Pentagon and the Whitehouse to make sure their resource remains intact.

If Canadians had any balls of any kind they'd take care of those fields with a few "misplaced" rounds of high explosives. If the rationale is that the destruction of the poppy fields would flip Afghani citizens infavor of the Taliban, what's the indicator these people are using that the Afghani people prefer warlords battling over opium profits to reconstruction teams?
 

EagleSmack

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How's the war with Iran coming? Any predictions?

It is a scare tactic by the left to continuously bring up an impending (supposedly) war with Iran because Iraq and Afghanistan just isn't cutting it anymore.
 

Avro

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Iraq and Afghanistan aren't cutting what?

Btw the U.S. sent another aircraft carrier into the region......site seeing tour I guess.
 

EagleSmack

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Iraq and Afghanistan aren't cutting what?

Btw the U.S. sent another aircraft carrier into the region......site seeing tour I guess.

They aren't stirring up enough dissent. McCaine looks like at this time that he is going to waltz into the White House even with his support on the continuation of the Iraq War.

Oh yes I read about that carrier. The Navy released a statement that the presence of two carriers would only overlap a day or two as it was a regular routine replacement. The USS Lincoln is replacing the USS Truman as the Truman has been on station there. I guess they left that part out. So we better get the war going within two days of the USS Lincoln's arrival!
 

Avro

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Well, duh, I already said McCain was going to win months ago, American voters have already proven how dumb they are in the last presidential election I don't expect that to change anytime soon. Plus Americans have gotten use to the deaths (47 this month) of U.S. troops....kind of sad isn't it.

Saber rattling at Iran is more likely the story here, perhaps because they, like many more are to do, have shed themselves of your weak dollar in trading oil.