U.S. urges Canada to act on climate change

BaalsTears

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We're definitely on the same page there.

I often wonder if the aforementioned simperers are as they come across or maybe just yanking my chain... The logic they use is just so bizarre that it is surreal in most regards

They are as they appear to be coming across. They lack the wit to yank your chain. For them this is a great moral struggle of good versus evil. They might as well be Oxford educated Bonobos.
 

Zipperfish

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The research?

Maybe you have a link to, ah, research on the subject by East Anglia, Peer Reviewed an everything!

It's done man, really, time to move on

So, your point being that because you percieve reserach conducted by East Anglia University as bad, therefore all research is bad. That's about the level of logic I've come to expect from you. :lol:




..... And yet, all the signatories to Kyoto have abandoned it in addition to
the Copenhagen Accord being nothing more than a laughing stock.





I do like the inclusion about the polls and surveys though... Nice sentiment
to poll folks on, but despite the 'concern' on global warming, people ain't
concerned enough to actually want to do anything about it.

Says a lot, doesn't it

The fact that people aren't really doing anything about it doesn't make it any less real. We're not doing much about any big issues really--starvation, slavery, overfishing, poverty, war. They don't cease to exist because we aren't doing anything about them. Again, you seem to have difficulty grasping very simple logic here--a trait a find common in hardcore idealogues.



... And the Earth has always gone through cycles of climate change... Ya forgot
that wee fact, right?
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Oh crap! You're right, I did. Listen phone up the IPCC right now adn tell the thousands of earth scientists involved in that endeavour that they forgot to take into account natural variability and cycles in the claimte! I'm sure there'll be a Nobel prize in it for you. :lol: Good eye!

PS - Since this tempest in a tea pot was brought to the public's awareness some
years back, the temp has dropped despite an increase in anthro CO2.

Um, no.

They are as they appear to be coming across. They lack the wit to yank your chain. For them this is a great moral struggle of good versus evil. They might as well be Oxford educated Bonobos.

Yeah, why don't you go back and read a few of my posts. Probably over your head, but maybe give it a go anyways. Then go ahead adn read a few of your screeds and rants. I think to the imp;ersonal observer it would be pretty evident who the drama queen is.

Oooh, here's a recent goodie from you:
The problem with the American left is that they will use any means to
accomplish their objectives. They are relentless. The only way to deal with
them is to be equally relentless and ruthless.

Talk about the struggle between good and evil. Talk about high drama. I think you even qoited some Macbeth later too! That's literally drama! :lol:

It's ok though, it's normal to despise most in others that which we see in ourselves.
 
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darkbeaver

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When did Canadians start obeying directives from foreign potentates?

The day after Nagasaki.

USHCN 2.5 – Estimated Data Is Warming Data – Arizona
Posted on June 5, 2014 by stevengoddard
Originally posted on sunshine hours:

An addendum to yesterdays post about “Estimated” data.

These are the 9 months in Arizona with the biggest change due to Estimated data. I’ll focus on December (the top graph). Remember, this is the Final data after all the other adjustments.

About 15% of the data is Estimated from neighboring stations.

The trend of REAL data is negative-.04C/decade.

Then they add in about 15% Estimated data with a trend of +0.43C/decade.

The net result is a new trend of +0.02C/decade.

Presto. Magic. A downward trend is now an upward trend. (Click on graph for larger)

97% Of US Warming Since 1990 Is Due To 100% Fake Data
Posted on June 5, 2014 by stevengoddard
Here is a stunner.

I plotted the USHCN V2.5 adjusted data below, distinguishing between data which was adjusted from raw data (red) and completely fake data (blue.) It turns out that essentially all reported warming since 1990 in the US, is due to fake data manufactured without any underlying thermometer data. The “record warm” year of 2012 was manufactured with two degrees of completely fake data.

Alarmists claim that the adjustments are necessary due to TOBS, etc. – but that isn’t what is producing the warming since 1990. The adjusted data shows almost no warming. The warming comes from fake data.
 

captain morgan

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So, your point being that because you percieve reserach conducted by East Anglia University as bad, therefore all research is bad. That's about the level of logic I've come to expect from you. :lol:

Just the ecotard science... You folks seem to always get caught in some form of deception and/or perpetual inaccuracies.

Say, how's that ice free North since 2013?

The fact that people aren't really doing anything about it doesn't make it any less real.

It makes the polls and surveys you referred to, absolutely useless

Listen phone up the IPCC right now adn tell the thousands of earth scientists involved in that endeavour that they forgot to take into account natural variability and cycles in the claimte! I'm sure there'll be a Nobel prize in it for you. :lol: Good eye!

You should make the call... They only accept calls from card carrying, kool-aid guzzling fanatics like yourself


Um, yup
 

Zipperfish

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Just the ecotard science... You folks seem to always get caught in some form of deception and/or perpetual inaccuracies.

Ah, I see. The ones you agree with are sceince, and those the ones you don't agree with are "ecotard scinece." Very convenient. Again, a common trend among hard core idealogues.

Say, how's that ice free North since 2013?

I don't recall ever saying that. Arctic sea ice is rapidly decreasing and the temperature (contrary to your assertions that it's getting colder) have been increasing. In recent news the US Army Corps of Engineers estimated that it will cost about $200 million each to move 17 Alaskan coastal villages that are sliding underwater due to teh permafrost no longer being permanent.












Nope.
 

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First of all I love America, and the people, but since when do we march to their beat. If we told them how to conduct things in their country, they would tell us to go to hell, so we should do as well..lol! Also I am all for the pipeline. Canadians...are you afraid ya'll will have to work..lol! What can a government do to change the world, it is going to change with or without our pathetic "leaders". The earth has gone through many changes and not all due to 'gases', population etc, but because that is how the cycle of life is. Remember the ice age, stone age, bronze age,,etc. I am not going to make any changes to my life, I do not go out to restaurants, I do not waste, or buy what I don't need. We are overly governed and ruled to death in this country,,enough is enough. Besides when the so called enviromentalist of this world start using leaves, no lights, etc, or gas, peddle their *** every where, then I may listen, until then, practise what you preach I say.
 

Zipperfish

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Explain the up and down mid century. Exponential inputs don't do negatives.

Exponential inputs don't do negatives doesn't even mean anything.

My guess is that the the ups and down are due to natural cyclical patterns in the climate , particularly the decadal ones like the sunspot cycle and the Pacific Decadal Osciallation. Overlaid on top of that is the warming trend since the last ice age. Overlaid on top of that is the GHG forcing.

The problem with your geomagnetic theory is that it doesn't explain why the earth doesn't get as cold as the moon at night.