U.S. Troops Face Eating, Drinking Restrictions During Ramadan

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Why the ****ing hell should non-Muslims be forced to observe Ramadan? It's just needless PC gone mad again.

Many businesses in Ontario must observe Easter and Christmas by law.


So I take it you oppose Muslims observing Ramadan in Christian countries like Canada. Because, going by that logic, you should do.

It's funny how non-Muslims are "required" to observe Muslim practices in Muslim countries, yet Muslims themselves aren't forced to observe Christian practices in Christian countries. In my view, all Muslims in Britain should be forced to observe Easter and Sunday Christian worship, or get a £10,000 fine and a year's imprisonment. When in Rome....

Actually, many Ontario businesses must observe Easter and Christmas by law or risk fines.
 

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Corduroy: Seems like a good idea.

And that comment, on the fact that non-Muslims like those American troops have to observe Ramadan traditions in certain countries, got +2.

And yet, when I propose that such a good idea be adopted by Britain, it's slammed as being "bigoted."
I'm not surprised you think that.

I wouldn't imagine with the state of British schools, you'd pick up on sarcasm.

Nor would critical thinking or deductive reasoning, be part of a skill set most people pick up in school, be part of the curriculum in Britain.
 

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Actually, many Ontario businesses must observe Easter and Christmas by law or risk fines.

Legislating closure in order that people may observe the holiday and forcing participation in that observance are very different things.

I'm not surprised you think that.

I wouldn't imagine with the state of British schools, you'd pick up on sarcasm.

Nor would critical thinking or deductive reasoning, be part of a skill set most people pick up in school, be part of the curriculum in Britain.

Sarcasm is way too much of a stretch. We still haven't accomplished his understanding of things stated plainly.
 

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To force a non-believer to observe Ramadan is just as silly as forcing him to observe Easter or Christmas. It cheapens it.
 

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Actually, many Ontario businesses must observe Easter and Christmas by law or risk fines.


More efforts must be undertaken in Canada and Britain to get more Christians to partake in Christian worship. We need more bums on pews and more people to follow Christian values. Christianity needs to be strengthened in our two traditionally Christian nations, otherwise we'd soon be part of ISIS's wondrous Caliphate that many people here dream of being a part of.
 

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More efforts must be undertaken in Canada and Britain to get more Christians to partake in Christian worship. We need more bums on pews and more people to follow Christian values. Christianity needs to be strengthened in our two traditionally Christian nations, otherwise we'd soon be part of ISIS's wondrous Caliphate that many people here dream of being a part of.
Yes, I can see so much of ISIS in you.
 

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No argument. It is, however, the law there.


So is the hanging of gays off cranes. Are the US military in Muslim countries going to abide by that law and hang any homosexuals in their ranks just so that they make sure they are following the laws of the land they are based in?
 

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We could always reopen the residential schools and ban indigenous religious practices again, Blackleaf.
 

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So is the hanging of gays off cranes. Are the US military in Muslim going to abide by that law and hang any homosexuals in their ranks?

Find the law that says that, first of all.

Secondly, and for the last freaking time, the law is the law. Whether you or I agree with it or not is irrelevant.
 

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Something I'm sure you would love to sell tikka masala at.


If the US Army is so keen on following all local laws, such as forcing their soldiers to follow Ramadan, that would mean they would have to hang all their gay soldiers and stone to death any female soldier in their ranks who has committed adultery. Why just obey the Ramadan bit but not those other laws? Or are they less concerned about following local laws and customs "because they have to" and more concerned with being PC?
 

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If the US Army is so keen on following all local laws, such as forcing their soldiers to follow Ramadan, that would mean they would have to hang all their gay soldiers and stone to death any female soldier in their ranks who has committed adultery. Why just obey the Ramadan bit but not those other laws?
Your desperation is really rank now.
 

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Legislating closure in order that people may observe the holiday and forcing participation in that observance are very different things.

The difference is smaller than the eye of a needle. If what you claim were the true intent, only government offices might be closed on those days with a guaranteed legal right for any workernel to refuse to work on his Holy Days regardless of religion.
 

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We could always reopen the residential schools and ban indigenous religious practices again, Blackleaf.


You don't have to do that. But countries like Canada and Britain should follow America's lead and be more assertively Christian. American churches are full whereas ours are empty. It's only Islam which will fill the void left by the decline of Christianity in Britain and Canada. Initiatives need to be put in place to get more Christians to attend church services and for Christianity to be put back at the forefront of everyday life in Britain and Canada.
 

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Yes, we should always respect even unjust laws. Respect for the law is a cornerstone of civilization.
 

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Your desperation is really rank now.


How many gay American soldiers are operating in countries where homosexuality is not only illegal but is also a capital offence?

If the American Army MUST obey all the laws of all the countries they are based in then it stands to reason that all homosexual American soldiers in those countries where homosexuality is illegal must be dealt with accordingly.
 

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How many gay American soldiers are operating in countries where homosexuality is not only illegal but is also a capital offence?

If the American Army MUST obey all the laws of all the countries they are based in then it stands to reason that all homosexual American soldiers in those countries where homosexuality is illegal must be dealt with accordingly.
This is a good post for a Stickup.
 

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The difference is smaller than the eye of a needle. If what you claim were the true intent, only government offices might be closed on those days with a guaranteed legal right for any workernel to refuse to work on his Holy Days regardless of religion.

So who is forcing you into a church on Christmas Day to celebrate the birth of Christ?