U.N.: Hunger Kills 18,000 Kids Each Day

[darkbeaver]

Food production now, in the starving nations, is enough to more than doubley feed their populations when the green revolution started. They too could be living in a world where obesity kills more than starvation.

Why aren't they? they have no self-responsibility, they keep growing their population to levels the world cannot sustain.

Look at the wealthy nations of the world, with the one exception of the USA (which has a special wealth mechanism with OPEC)..all of them ALL of them have declining populations. And its simple math as to why that works out.

I don't think we should give aid to any nation which isn't going to institute population control methods, such as birth control, sex ed and things like tax breaks to families with two children or less.

Of course, nations which did that wouldn't NEED aid within a single generation.

If you can't feed yourself, don't bring five more mouths to feed into this world. Its DeFacto child abuse.

Much of that production is by argibiz and it's for export to the west.:wave:

 

[I think not]

The west sends foreign aid to the tune of trillions of dollars each decade for the past 40 years.

The corrupt third world governments and NGO's absorb the majority of the money.

Read "Lords of Poverty".

As usual, the UN isn't addressing the core of the issue.

 

[Libra Girl]

Many of the goddamn programes:wave: run by the missionarys will not teach or assist birth control, they'll hand out goddamn bibles but a condom is satans work. And the Catholic church could do far more than it does which is relatively nothing apart from thier incessant prayer.

You are so right...

 

[marygaspe]

(Don't tell the UN or the reporter - You don't die from hunger, you die from starvation.)

Interesting, though, isn't it that, while all over the world people are starving, in many parts of the world the problem is obesity. I remember the way my daughter ate when we first brought her here, at 13 months old. She'd eat everything she could grab. After a few months, she realized that there was more food to be had, so you didn't have to try to eat your daily requirements all at once. It was interesting to see that understanding occur. It made me realize that most of us here live without that concern, we just never need to think about it.

It might do a lot of people good to go without food or drink (other than water) for a day every once in a while.

That was the point I was getting at earlier too. Many people in this country bewail the hungry issue, yet they eat enough to feed half a dozen people. And let's not talk about the food we throw away every single day! I confess myself when I think about it, we personally waste allot of food in this house.Sobering things to think about.

 

[marygaspe]

Many of the goddamn programes:wave: run by the missionarys will not teach or assist birth control, they'll hand out goddamn bibles but a condom is satans work. And the Catholic church could do far more than it does which is relatively nothing apart from thier incessant prayer.

Maybe, at least for the Catholic Church, I agree. But we can all do far more and at least they are doing a little bit which is better than nothing at all.

 

[tracy]

I don't understand our need to blame the suffering. I don't care that a three year old's mother had more children than she could feed. The three year old doesn't deserve to suffer because of that. That three year old isn't any less deserving of life than a three year old Canadian child.

Plus, the notion that women in those countries have any control over their fertility is just ridiculous. If they don't get married, they will likely starve themselves and I doubt that they have the power to tell their hubbies that they aren't in the mood tonight. Considering the fact that a lot of these women have no access to education or basic medical care, it's unlikely they have the means to plan their families the way we can. Considering the fact that MANY women here still give birth to children they don't want and can't care for, I think it's pretty hypocritical to judge those in other countries with far fewer resources and education for doing the same thing.

I'm also so dissapointed with cynical rants if they are interfering with action. There may be a lot of waste in aide agencies. That doesn't mean you can't find ONE that does good work and support it.

 

[sanctus]

I don't understand our need to blame the suffering. I don't care that a three year old's mother had more children than she could feed. The three year old doesn't deserve to suffer because of that. That three year old isn't any less deserving of life than a three year old Canadian child.

Plus, the notion that women in those countries have any control over their fertility is just ridiculous. If they don't get married, they will likely starve themselves and I doubt that they have the power to tell their hubbies that they aren't in the mood tonight. Considering the fact that a lot of these women have no access to education or basic medical care, it's unlikely they have the means to plan their families the way we can. Considering the fact that MANY women here still give birth to children they don't want and can't care for, I think it's pretty hypocritical to judge those in other countries with far fewer resources and education for doing the same thing.

I'm also so dissapointed with cynical rants if they are interfering with action. There may be a lot of waste in aide agencies. That doesn't mean you can't find ONE that does good work and support it.

I agree with you 100%. the idea that somehow we should punish these people for their children is somewhat amazing to me. Regardless of our expectations for what we think they should be doing, the fact remains that these children are alive and it is our moral responsibility to help them where we are able.

 

[Stretch]

Sadly, its all part of the plan

There is enough money and technology in the world to stamp out poverty/starvation...but that creates its own problems....overpopulation.
its about population control/reduction...anyone hear of the "Global 2000 Report to The President. A Blueprint For Genocide."......( I have a copy of this report)

Global 2000 Report
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The Club of Rome commissioned Cyrus Vance, Jimmy Carter's Secretary of State to write The Global 2000 report. This is a Draconian plan to reduce the world's population by means of wars, famine, diseases, and plagues. The HIV virus and the Aids epidemic became a part of this plan.
http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/global2000report.htm


This plan involves the UN, WHO, IMF, the world bank, just to name a few.

IMF and EU Are Blamed for Starvation in Niger.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/hunger/relief/2005/0801imfeublamed.htm

World Health Organization and UNICEF involved in genocide in Uganda
http://www.whale.to/a/nkuba.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/vaccinationsinUganda22dec03.shtml
http://franklaughter.web.aplus.net/bin/header/kihura.html


some links of interest.....
Population "Control",
New World Order Style
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml

The Population Control Agenda
http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/popcontrolagenda.htm

A History Timeline of Population Control
http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/populationcontrolagenda2.htm

The Invention Of AIDS[SIZE=+1]By Boyd E. Graves, J.D.[/SIZE]http://www.rense.com/general13/inve.htm

Boyd Ed Graves, J.D. discovered the United States' secret 1971 Special 'AIDS' Virus Flow Chart in 1999.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/boyd_ed_graves.htm

http://www.boydgraves.com/

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[Zzarchov]

You don't need a pharmacy or birth control to practice population control.

Oh sure, they are more effective thats is very true. But desert societies have practiced birth control for thousands and thousands of years, quite effectively.

Most peoples of this earth were very rational and realised that if you can barely feed two kids, don't have five.

Then came along a slew of religions telling you to "go forth and multiply".


No matter how you slice the cake, in all but the most freak accidents (which isn't what is occuring) such as a random drought, swarm of locusts or other such event, starvation settles itself.

If 18,000 kids die, don't have 18,000 more kids. Then no more children need die.

Giving birth to children you KNOW you can't feed and trying to have more, is no different than giving birth and using your baby for organ donation. You are creating it to die, hoping to gain something from it (free labour, a child soldier, in some cases being sold as a slave, at best a status symbol in a place where having many children is more important than having live children)

Its no different than telling teenage mothers not to have a baby because they can't look after it. Helping them after the fact is fine, but we also spend far more promoting teens not to have babies then we do helping teenage mothers. And it works too.

We need more money to promote a sustainable population and less on aid. What we are doing now is akin to giving a junkie more drugs because detox could kill him. Give him help if he needs it, give him some meds to let him down slowly, but don't just keep forking over drugs.

If they don't want to accept our help at the cost, they don't have to. They can make their own decisions, and they can't manage the consequences themselves.

You can't cheat natural law, if your population grows..you go through a population cycle, same as every other living creature on god's green earth.

 

[Zzarchov]

I agree with you 100%. the idea that somehow we should punish these people for their children is somewhat amazing to me. Regardless of our expectations for what we think they should be doing, the fact remains that these children are alive and it is our moral responsibility to help them where we are able.

It is our moral responsibility to help those who want to be helped.

It is THEIR moral responsibility first and foremost to help themselves. Africa is not incapable of looking after itself. It has vast resources, it could look after itself far better then we could.

Helping is one thing, parenting is another. If Africa wants us to parent them and look after them like children until they are capable of looking after themselves, they can expect to be told what to do.

If they want to run themselves, then great! but its called being "Self-Governing" for a reason. Govern themselves, it isn't our problem.


To continue with my analogy..If a Junkie comes to your door and says he needs more drugs or more money which will be used for drugs, is it your moral responsibility to give him money and or drugs every time he asks, or is it your responsibility to help him get cleaned up so he can look after himself and help others in turn?

 

[Curiosity]

The U.N. has a lot of brass to put out a report like this....

Lack of food and medicine never stopped them from punishing the Iraqi people for twelve years while they were taking oil from Hussein to sell....where the food and medicine went is anyone's guess... Rah Rah U.N.

 

[MikeyDB]

Tamarin

Who determines the parameters in that utipian idea?

The same people who have sweatshops and regard third world nations as disposable?....
That petrol for their SUV's is more important than medicince or education?....
The west has manipulated these nations for so long it would seem there's a lesson to be learned about how one interacts with others over tese past two or three hundred years and yet very little has changed...

Does this have anything do do with who makes the decisions?

 

[tracy]

The U.N. has a lot of brass to put out a report like this....

Lack of food and medicine never stopped them from punishing the Iraqi people for twelve years while they were taking oil from Hussein to sell....where the food and medicine went is anyone's guess... Rah Rah U.N.

Wait a minute... I don't understand the connection. Weren't our governments in favor of maintaining those sanctions? Why should that be a reason not to bring attention to problems of malnutrition around the world? If only the perfect are allowed to speak out, it's going to be completely silent out there.