U.K. resident held at Gitmo alleges Canadian involvement in torture

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U.K. resident held at Gitmo alleges Canadian involvement in torture

Allegations are emerging that a Canadian might have been involved in the torture of one of Britain's last remaining residents at Guantanamo Bay.

Binyam Mohamed, 31, claims to have been tortured after being arrested in Pakistan in 2002. And he alleges that Britain was complicit in the torture and Canada may have also had a role in his rendition.

Mohamed was flown to Morocco after his arrest and interrogated. He alleges that after refusing to speak with Americans, a third-party intermediary, who called herself "Sarah, the Canadian," was brought in.

Zachary Katznelson, Mohamed's lawyer, shared sections of a diary his client says kept during the ordeal.

"If you don't talk to me, the Americans are getting ready to carry out torture," Mohamed wrote that Sarah told him. "They're going to electrocute you, beat you and rape you."

Mohamed alleges he was beaten and cut with razor blades, including hundreds of times on his genitals, while he was held.

The diary documents Sarah, who is described as about 30 to 35 years old, speaking with Mohamed and warning him to talk before leaving him to be tortured, Katznelson said.

"[It was] absolutely brutal, horrific torture," Katznelson said. "Anyone who played a role in that — big or small — has to answer criminally and morally."

"It's a violation of the convention against torture for any country to participate in such an event, and Canada would have something to answer for," he said.

Katznelson said Mohamed's legal team has asked Canadian officials about Sarah's identity but a reply has never been received.

No knowledge of allegations

Late Thursday, a government spokesperson issued a statement saying the Department of Foreign Affairs had no knowledge of the allegations but has in the past objected strongly to instances where foreign agents claimed to have links to Canada.

Given that Canada's overseas reputation is on the line, the issue should be pursued aggressively through political, diplomatic and intelligence channels, said Thomas Quiggin, a Carleton University professor who specializes in intelligence.

Even if someone was pretending to be Canadian, those concerns don't go away, Quiggin said.

"If it's Americans doing this, we would expect to have a diplomatic protest to the Americans over this," said Jack Harris, the New Democratic Party's national security critic.

Documents not being released

Mohamed's legal team has sought the release of dozens of classified documents about his treatment from 2002 to 2004, when he was transferred to the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Britain has refused to release 42 documents related to Mohamed, following a court ruling and statements from the U.S. government that doing so may harm the countries' intelligence-sharing agreements.

The U.S. has also refused to provide classified documents — which are alleged to be related to Mohamed's torture — to his lawyers.

"It leaves us with serious concerns about the complicity of the United States and the United Kingdom in torture of suspects in the battle against terrorism," said British Conservative MP David Davis.

Mohamed was born in Ethiopia and moved to Britain at age 16, where he was granted residency.

He later converted to Islam and travelled to Pakistan and Afghanistan, where U.S. officials allege he fought alongside Taliban forces and later attended al-Qaeda training camps.

He affirms that his interrogators in Morocco asked him questions about things that only British intelligence agents could have known.

Britain has denied it had knowledge of Mohamed's alleged torture or abuse. It also has said it only learned that Mohamed had been sent to Morocco to be interrogated a year after he had already been in Guantanamo.

Mohamed was accused of plotting to set bombs. But in October the Pentagon dismissed all charges against him; he says he only confessed after being tortured.

Absolutely Sick!!

If indeed there was a Canadian involved, a "Sarah, The Canadian" , then she should be thrown to the courts and have her ass hung for all to see!!

If it was an imposter, be that british or american, then the sh*t should very well fly!!!

Where the hell has justice gone these days?
 

Praxius

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"who called herself "Sarah, the Canadian,""

:lol:

I don't care who you are...that's funny

Kinda like George of the Jungle, lol. :p

I wonder if they dressed her up in inuit arctic gear


Tell us what we want to know or we'll stick your wang to the ice and leave you for the polar bears.
 

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Well we are always posing as Canadians anyways.

"Hi... I'm Sarah the Canadian!" :smile:
 

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Probably, why else would she point out she's a Canadian? Because we're people everybody can trust?

Maybe that's what we want everybody to think :twisted:

I bet that was the reason. It was worth a shot.
 

Praxius

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LOL. Hmmm... I better rephrase that. Prax would be waiting across the border with his rifle for me to flush one hundred male deer into his gunsight.

I do take people literally more often then not.

That's ok, I'll return the favor by sending over 100 Canadian Geese into the path of an American Airlines Jet. :p

Oh yeah, we never did sort out that little crisis did we?
 

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I do take people literally more often then not.

That's ok, I'll return the favor by sending over 100 Canadian Geese into the path of an American Airlines Jet. :p

Oh yeah, we never did sort out that little crisis did we?

LMAO. No we didn't.

Dog gone Canadian Geese... first they defecate on every golf course and water front... then they take down at least one airliner.
 

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Update:



Minister denies knowledge of 'Sarah the Canadian'
CTV.ca | Minister denies knowledge of 'Sarah the Canadian'

OTTAWA -- The federal government has "no knowledge" that a Canadian took part in the 2002 torture and interrogation of a suspected terrorist in Morocco, Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said Friday.

The lawyer for Binyam Mohamed, a British national who was arrested in Pakistan and is now at the U.S. detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, says his client refused to talk to his American interrogators before a woman calling herself "Sarah the Canadian" stepped in.

Mohamed's diary says the woman told him the Americans were getting ready to torture him if he didn't co-operate. The woman -- whom Mohamed says he never believed was Canadian -- left and the Briton says he was tortured.

"The Government of Canada has in the past objected strongly in instances where foreign agents claimed alleged links to Canada," Cannon said in a brief statement during question period in the Commons.

New Democrat MP Paul Dewar, who questioned Cannon on the story -- which first surfaced several years ago -- said he trusts the interrogator wasn't actually a Canadian.

"But in light of the fact that this was our reputation on the international stage being sullied, I want to know what the government has done to make sure that our reputation is actually solid here," Dewar told reporters.

"Because when governments do this they're using us as an instrument for their nefarious activities, in this case torture. I mean, these are very serious allegations."

He said he wants an investigation into the matter. He also suggested Prime Minister Stephen Harper raise the issue with Barack Obama when the newly minted president visits Ottawa on Feb. 19.

Mohamed's lawyer, Zachary Katznelson, says his client was subjected to "absolutely brutal, horrific torture and anyone who played a role in that, big or small, has to answer criminally and morally."

In documents filed with the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington in January 2006, Katznelson wrote that Mohamed, a suspected al-Qaida agent, was tortured during interrogations by FBI agents in Pakistan and Morocco.

Pakistani soldiers in Karachi hung him up by his wrists for a week, letting him down just twice a day to go to the bathroom, the lawyer wrote. He said they beat him with a leather strap and at one stage pressed a semi-automatic rifle into his chest.

"I knew I was going to die," Mohamed said. "He stood like that for five minutes."

He said he was taken to Islamabad before he was rendered to Morocco, where the Moroccan agents who tortured and interrogated him said they were acting on the Americans' behalf.

"Sarah" claimed to be an "impartial third party" from Canada and warned him in a blase manner: "If you don't talk to me, then the Americans are getting ready to carry out the torture. They're going to electrocute you, beat you and rape you."

Mohamed, who had already been cleared by British authorities, told them he had nothing to say. He was subsequently held down and beaten for hours by masked men. The beatings and torture went on for more than 18 months, he said.

"They'd ask me a question," he said in his diary. "I'd say one thing. They'd say it was a lie. I'd say another. They'd say it was a lie. I could not work out what they wanted to hear."

"They'd say there's this guy who says you're the big man in al-Qaida. I'd say it's a lie. They'd say it's true. They'd torture me. I'd say, OK it's true. They'd say, OK, tell us more. I'd say, I don't know more. Then they'd torture me again."

Mohamed said they cut him repeatedly with razor blades, including his genitals, subjected him to loud rock music non-stop and doped him.

In his book "Ghost Plane: The True Story of the CIA Torture Program," Stephen Grey writes that the parts of Mohamed's story that can be verified check out.

The dates of his move from Pakistan to Morocco (July 21, 2002), for example, match the flight logs of the CIA Gulfstream V jet that was used for renditions. And his descriptions of the prison where he says he was tortured match the interrogation centre at Temara in Morocco.

Mohamed has maintained all along he never believed Sarah was a Canadian, but an American acting out a ruse.

It's not the first time Canadian names have come up in the alleged mistreatment of a suspected terrorist.

Last year, former Canadian diplomat Jim Gould denied that he and a CSIS agent partook in the mistreatment of a Canadian at Guantanamo.

Omar Khadr, accused of throwing a hand grenade that killed an American medic in Afghanistan, was subjected to what the Americans called the "frequent flyer plan," in which he was awakened every three hours and moved to a different cell to soften him up.

Gould said the videotaped interrogation took place more than a year before the mistreatment and that he only found out about it just before seeing Khadr on a second "fact-finding" visit in 2004. He said Khadr never showed obvious signs of mistreatment.

There have also been several incidents in which foreign agents were caught using Canadian passports, most notably in 1997 when Ottawa recalled its ambassador to Israel after undercover Mossad agents were caught using falsified Canadian passports during an assassination attempt on a Palestinian militant leader.

Looks like Canada should be cutting ties with a few countries trying to use us for their sick games.

Oh and I bet I know what Sarah they're talking about now:


^ From Alaska, similar terrain as Canada, she believes in the McCain/Bush Tactics of gathering information, probably doesn't like penises all that much...... I dunno..... my spidy senses are tingling.
 

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"If you don't talk to me, the Americans are getting ready to carry out torture," Mohamed wrote that Sarah told him. "They're going to electrocute you, beat you and rape you."

Ya gotta love the Americans style.... Almost seems like the selection process at an RNC convention