Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

Curious Cdn

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You forgot "Declare Canada a threat to U.S. national security."

Gotta admit, that one's pretty funny.

Well ... we are, aren't we?

In every distopian novel set in the United States, the protagonists eventually escape to Canada for their freedom.
 

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Megaplotz ain't right in the noggin.
Yet the one cheering 1/2M kids being killed is? You people are so strange at times.

Last time I saw Florida being rescued from the weather some guy was crying cause there wasn't a teddy for his little girl. Turns out he was single and had no kids at all. Welcome to the home of the brave. They must mean the ones locked up on the Rez.
 

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Yes, sanctions like the ones clinton used in Iraq, and even the ones trump is now using AGAINST RUSSIA, can be very hard on the non combatant peeps.
 

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Canada to join Mexico, Japan, South Korea and the EU in auto tariff talks


So what kind of meeting will this be? Canada begging these countries to stay united in the face of tariff agreements being made with the U.S. with most of these other countries. Canada is going to be left holding the bag and begging for a reasonable deal IMO

Trump and EU officials agree to work toward 'zero tariff' deal



Japan with the EU opening a backdoor to the U.S. a better one than through Canada in NAFTA

Tariffs on Japanese vehicle parts could be scrapped in EU deal


You certainly like reading your own bias into news stories don't you? Since when has Canada begged for anything in any international agreement? And Canada already has a trade deal with the EU.



And Why would Japan use the EU as a back door to the US? It already has manufacturing plants in several US states, which actually makes it an US automaker.
 

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You certainly like reading your own bias into news stories don't you? Since when has Canada begged for anything in any international agreement? And Canada already has a trade deal with the EU.



And Why would Japan use the EU as a back door to the US? It already has manufacturing plants in several US states, which actually makes it an US automaker.

Canada rejected in bid to be part of high-level NAFTA talks between Mexico and U.S.: sources

WASHINGTON, D.C. — American officials have taken the “highly unusual” step of rejecting Canada’s bid to take part in senior-level NAFTA talks between the U.S. and Mexico later this week, sources familiar with the trade negotiations said Monday.
One person said attempts by Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland to get a seat at the table in Washington Thursday were either ignored, or spurned outright by the office of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer.
Another source said the request to be at the meeting was made in a low-key fashion “so as not to spark a diplomatic incident” and was followed by “a retreat to diplomatic silence.”
Lighthizer is scheduled to meet Economy Minister Ildefonso Guajardo of Mexico after similar bilateral meetings between the officials last week made significant progress, analysts say.
Canada’s apparent sidelining follows Lighthizer’s recent comments that he hoped to strike a separate deal with Mexico, then use that as pressure to win compromises from Canada.
“It is highly unusual, after more than a year of three-party talks, for Canada not to participate in the new discussions between U.S. and Mexican negotiators,” said Chris Sands, head of the Center for Canadian Studies at Johns Hopkins University.
Indeed, recent developments point to a steady souring of relations between Ottawa and the White House. Formal, three-way talks to revamp the North American Free Trade Agreement have not been held since May, though had been expected to restart after the Mexican presidential election earlier this month.
A third source briefed on the negotiations said the U.S. side, fuelled in part by Lighthizer’s dislike of Freeland, has decided to not even let Canada back into the process until it makes some kind of substantive concession.
Canadian officials have been waiting until talks enter the final stages before making such a move, but President Donald Trump’s representatives expect an overture sooner, said the source.
“Until Canada signals to the White House or tells them even privately ‘We’re going to give you something that you want,’ they’re going to be on the outside looking in,” said the person, citing private discussions with administration officials. “The negotiating style of the Trump administration is so kind of balls to the wall, just being prepared to sit down earnestly and roll up your sleeves isn’t close to enough at this stage.”
Lighthizer’s office did not respond to requests for comment.
Alex Lawrence, a spokesman for Freeland, said late Monday only that Canada is committed to modernizing NAFTA “while standing up for Canadian interests.”
“We will continue to work toward a good deal for Canada,” he said.
A Canadian official familiar with the negotiations said they were not aware of any request by Freeland to be part of Thursday’s meeting, and called reports of breakthroughs in the Mexico-U.S. talks a positive sign that Canada welcomes.
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland in Mexico City, on July 25, 2018.



Canada EU agreement is stuck in limbo with Italy balking the deal, Canada is going to be 2nd last to the table unless China caves, then we will be last, where we should have been one of the first and creating the model for everyone else. Parts manufacturing is a sticking point for the Foreign automakers Japan imports their parts and assemble in Canada, U.S. and Mexico and are subject to tariffs as of now through NAFTA, 0 tariff with US-EU and EU-Japan makes it a backdoor until Japan-US make their deal
 

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Trump officials consider more than doubling tariffs on Chinese goods, ramping up trade war with Beijing

President Trump is considering a plan to impose a 25 percent tariff on $200 billion in Chinese imports, more than double what he had initially proposed, a person briefed on the matter said.
The deliberations could be a sign that Trump is looking to intensify pressure in the trade standoff with Beijing even if it could significantly drive up costs on a wide range of products for American consumers.
A final decision has not been made, and a number of Trump’s threats toward China have been designed more to bring Chinese President Xi Jinping to the negotiating table than to fundamentally change U.S. economic policy, said the person, who insisted on anonymity to discuss White House deliberations.
If Trump follows through with the plan, it could significantly raise prices on televisions, clothing, bedsheets, air conditioners and other consumer products.
Trump in June instructed U.S. Trade Representative Robert E. Lighthizer to craft a plan to impose a 10 percent tariff on $200 billion in Chinese imports, or roughly 40 percent of the goods that China sends to the U.S. each year.
It was seen at the time as a dramatic escalation of Trump’s trade battle with Xi, as Chinese leaders had refused to back down after numerous threats by the Trump administration. China’s Ministry of Commerce called the move “blackmail.”
It was not immediately clear Tuesday why Trump is now looking at raising the proposed tariffs to 25 percent, but White House officials say trade talks with China have largely stalled.
Trump has launched an aggressive trade agenda this year, threatening several countries with high tariffs if they don’t purchase more U.S. products or allow more U.S. investment in their countries.
In recent weeks, White House officials have claimed progress in talks with the European Union and Mexico, while talks with Canada and China have broken down. Trump has shown a willingness to try to isolate countries like Canada and China that he believes aren’t quickly offering the types of concessions he has demanded.

Walter I know you already posted this link but I wanted to highlight the following from the article

In recent weeks, White House officials have claimed progress in talks with the European Union and Mexico, while talks with Canada and China have broken down. Trump has shown a willingness to try to isolate countries like Canada and China that he believes aren’t quickly offering the types of concessions he has demanded.
 

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Yes, sanctions like the ones clinton used in Iraq, and even the ones trump is now using AGAINST RUSSIA, can be very hard on the non combatant peeps.

WE R Q

‘We are Q’: A deranged conspiracy cult leaps from the Internet to the crowd at Trump’s ‘MAGA’ tour
 

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Donald Trump: ‘Canada must wait’ on trade deal, but Mexican one is coming nicely

Canada would have to wait on a trade deal due to "tariffs and trade barriers" but the U.S. is making progress with Mexico, President Donald Trump tweeted Friday night.
"Deal with Mexico is coming along nicely. Autoworkers and farmers must be taken care of or there will be no deal. New President of Mexico has been an absolute gentleman," read the tweet.
Trump appeared to be referring to efforts to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement between the U.S., Mexico and Canada in his tweet from his golf club in Bedminster, N.J.
He added that any deal with Mexico must take care of American autoworkers and farmers, but he praised the new Mexican president, calling him "an absolute gentleman."
"Canada must wait. Their Tariffs and Trade Barriers are far too high. Will tax cars if we can’t make a deal!" the president continued, likely referencing the trade spat between Canada and the U.S. that resulted in new tariffs being placed on American imports to the Great White North in July.
Trump went on to warn that he would tax Canadian auto exports if Washington and Ottawa could not arrive at a deal.
 

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Does it really matter how the headlines read as the US exits the world stage as long as she does and in a timely fashion? (unlike the UK exit from the EU)
 

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Poop Stain getting too cra cra

The pink diapers the trumphaters appear to be wearing as hats seem to be causing arrested development.
;)

Technically, I make a certain amount of money betting MF is wrong, and he has not let me down yet.
:)
Especially when he, Bar, Ciffy and Hoid agree.

: Originally Posted by Walter
Where’s Turdoh?

Marching in a Pride Parade.

Trump administration nearing deal with Mexico on revised NAFTA — but issues with Canada remain
https://pilotonline.com/business/consumer/article_599976db-fea0-540a-a95b-6e3e924fc1a0.html

And Turdoh sits on his ass.

...well, wouldn't you at a pride parade?
:)
I'll bet his wife has him in chastity underwear with all the buckles locked up to do that do.

WE R Q

‘We are Q’: A deranged conspiracy cult leaps from the Internet to the crowd at Trump’s ‘MAGA’ tour

Well, if you can't have a lot of gin with your breakfast, there isn't much point in having breakfast, now is there?

Personally, I have never been, as you are, up on "Q".
;)
thanks for the tip though, I'll take that into consideration.
 

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Trump administration nearing deal with Mexico on revised NAFTA — but issues with Canada remain
https://pilotonline.com/business/consumer/article_599976db-fea0-540a-a95b-6e3e924fc1a0.html

And Turdoh sits on his ass.


Canada need not apply

Mexican negotiator suggests there is no need for Canada to rejoin NAFTA talks after U.S.-Mexico reach deal

A top Mexican negotiator put a new question mark Wednesday over Canada’s participation in NAFTA talks, suggesting this country will not necessarily join in next week if the U.S. and its southern neighbour finish their own, two-way deal.

And Jesus Seade seemed to indicate that any bilateral agreement with the U.S. could cover major trilateral issues — issues of pressing importance to Canadian officials.
Seade, who represents incoming Mexican president Andrés Manuel López Obrador, said the U.S.-Mexico agreement could be struck as soon as this week, but possibly next week.
Asked by reporters outside the offices of the U.S. Trade Representative in Washington if Canada would then join the talks, he said: “I don’t see any reason why they have to come after we finish. It’s up to (U.S. Trade Representative Robert) Lighthizer to organize his time.”
The Mexican delegation — and sources familiar with the closed-door negotiations — have said previously Canada would return to the table as soon as the other two resolved their bilateral issues — maybe even this week.
Seade’s comments seemed to indicate otherwise.
To complicate matters further, however, he said in Spanish during the same news scrum that “Canada has to come aboard” to complete a revised NAFTA agreement.
Two American sources briefed on the talks said this week that Canada is likely to come under intense pressure to compromise when it does finally rejoin the negotiations — and is presented with a finished accord between the other two.
But Canadian officials said Wednesday they are not worried about the most recent developments.
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland said she was “very encouraged” by the progress made by the other two countries on bilateral issues, stressing that she has remained in close contact with both their trade teams.
“Canada is looking forward to join the negotiations and a swift conclusion to negotiations,” she told reporters in Nanaimo, B.C.
Formal trilateral talks involving all three parties to the North American Free Trade Agreement have not taken place since May.
Mexico and the U.S. are now in their fifth straight week of two-way negotiations after, sources say, Canada tried to get an invitation but was rebuffed.
Little has been said publicly about the content of those talks, but Canadian officials and other sources suggested they have focused on U.S. demands around the automotive sector — issues of particular concern to the States and Mexico.
On Wednesday, Seade confirmed that the two nations have also been haggling over unquestionably trilateral issues, such as the American request for a sunset clause that would require NAFTA to be re-approved every five years.
Canada calls that idea a non-starter, believing it would breed uncertainty and stymie investment. Seade suggested Mexico and the U.S. are nearing an agreement on some version of it.
“It’s being discussed now,” he said Wednesday. “We’re exploring new options.”
As for when the U.S. and Mexico might wrap up their talks, he was less definitive than some sources have been recently.
“It could be that we finish everything between the U.S. and Mexico this week,” said Seade. “But it doesn’t have to be. I always say ‘Don’t rush it.’ ”
The negotiator said, though, a deal would have to be struck by the end of next week. That would allow it to be signed before López Obrador takes over as president on Dec. 1, given the 90 days of review by Congress required under American law.
Striking an agreement during the transition period is considered important for various political reasons in Mexico.

Not to worry Mexico gots our backs I thought Freeland said the negotiations were going good