Trump desires to re-enter the TPP

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Genius move.

GENIUS


TPP nations welcome Trump's interest in joining deal, but renegotiation? Forget about it

Members of an 11-nation Asia-Pacific trade pact said Friday they opposed any renegotiation of the deal to accommodate the U.S. should it decide to rejoin at a later date.

Ministers from Japan, Australia and Malaysia welcomed President Donald Trump directing officials to explore returning to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a pact he withdrew from shortly after coming to office. But they also cautioned against making any significant changes.

“We welcome the U.S. coming back to the table but I don’t see any wholesale appetite for any material re-negotiation of the TPP-11,” Australia Trade Minister Steven Ciobo said Friday.

TPP nations welcome Trump’s interest in joining deal, but renegotiation? Forget about it | Financial Post
 

White_Unifier

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Genius move.

GENIUS


TPP nations welcome Trump's interest in joining deal, but renegotiation? Forget about it

Members of an 11-nation Asia-Pacific trade pact said Friday they opposed any renegotiation of the deal to accommodate the U.S. should it decide to rejoin at a later date.

Ministers from Japan, Australia and Malaysia welcomed President Donald Trump directing officials to explore returning to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a pact he withdrew from shortly after coming to office. But they also cautioned against making any significant changes.

“We welcome the U.S. coming back to the table but I don’t see any wholesale appetite for any material re-negotiation of the TPP-11,” Australia Trade Minister Steven Ciobo said Friday.

TPP nations welcome Trump’s interest in joining deal, but renegotiation? Forget about it | Financial Post

My heart goes out to the American people. I'm glad the other states showed enough compassion for the American people to invite the US back to the bargaining table. It would seem they have Us interests more at heart than Trump himself does.

Perhaps other countries should offer the US a new multilateral trade deal called the Compassionate Trade Agreement that would look out for the well-being of the American people. Trump would still decline the deal.

Between Trump and Brexit, now's the time for Canada to transform itself into Hong Kong North. Canada's first step should be to unilaterally drop tariffs. That would put us in a stronger position to then negotiate reductions in non-tariff trade barriers.
 

petros

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Some of the tariffs have to do with quality.
Some like on solar panels are antidumping tarrifs.

Which do want lifted?
 

Gilgamesh

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It'll be interesting to see how receptive the TPP signatories will be to the Americans after they've started a trade war with China that they may very well lose.
I heard last night that the other signatories have said he is welcome to join but that they will not be opening any new negotiations.

The Art of the Deal ROFLMAO.

What a twit.
 

White_Unifier

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So you want crappy components that kill in consumer goods and Canadian panel makers to go under.

Got it.

The only way China could subsidize its panel makers is by either borrowing money (in which case we could lend it) or taxing other industries (in which case we could try to compete on the other fronts instead).
 

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It's a red herring. Trump often sais things that he thinks people want to hear. And then proceeds to do the opposite; marching to his own inner drummer.

TPP is a disaster. Along with exiting the Paris Accord it was Trump's most brilliant move to remove America from this trap of multilateral free trade agreements which have destroyed the U.S. and Canadian economies.

Reinserting America into the clutches of traders and financiers who are the only ones who benefit from Free Trade and Monetarism would unravel the integrity of his entire platform. It would be the death knell of his administration.

It's not going to happen. And TPP will disintegrate from its own catastrophic contradictions, usury and exploitation.
 

White_Unifier

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What Canadian panel makers?

If we don't have Canadian makers, then should we not thank China for dumping the panels on us at a competitive price?

Basic economics!

It's a red herring. Trump often sais things that he thinks people want to hear. And then proceeds to do the opposite; marching to his own inner drummer.

TPP is a disaster. Along with exiting the Paris Accord it was Trump's most brilliant move to remove America from this trap of multilateral free trade agreements which have destroyed the U.S. and Canadian economies.

Reinserting America into the clutches of traders and financiers who are the only ones who benefit from Free Trade and Monetarism would unravel the integrity of his entire platform. It would be the death knell of his administration.

It's not going to happen. And TPP will disintegrate from its own catastrophic contradictions, usury and exploitation.

Do you realize that all traders and financiers are multi-billionaires, that some are just sole proprietors of personal or family businesses who trade a little and invest a little? I used to have friends who traded intercontinentally even though they for the most part earned just enough to have a comfortable life and save a little for retirement. They didn't even have employees under them. You seem to think that only multibillionaires actually trade and invest.
 

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Are they manufacturing panels or installing them?

Even if they manufacture them, why would Canada want to waste its resources manufacturing panels that China is willing to have its own taxpayers subsidize for the Canadian consumer? We could always manufacture something else.
 

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Are they manufacturing panels or installing them?

Why do you think I posted a link? This is right off the website.

Besides serving as a leading manufacturer of solar PV modules and provider of solar energy solutions, Canadian Solar has a geographically diversified pipeline of utility-scale power projects. With the company’s recent acquisition of Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar’s total project pipeline is now 11 GW, including an increase of the late-stage project pipeline to over 1.6 GW. With state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in Canada, China and Vietnam, Canadian Solar employs over12,000 workers worldwide. This translates into more than 26 GW of panel shipments, or over 70 million PV modules, in the past 17 years. Together with Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar is ushering the way into a new era of clean, competitive, mainstream power.

Even if they manufacture them, why would Canada want to waste its resources manufacturing panels that China is willing to have its own taxpayers subsidize for the Canadian consumer? We could always manufacture something else.

Yeah - we could keep on sending China our cheap raw materials and China could send us its expensive manufactured product in return.
 

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Why do you think I posted a link? This is right off the website.

Besides serving as a leading manufacturer of solar PV modules and provider of solar energy solutions, Canadian Solar has a geographically diversified pipeline of utility-scale power projects. With the company’s recent acquisition of Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar’s total project pipeline is now 11 GW, including an increase of the late-stage project pipeline to over 1.6 GW. With state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in Canada, China and Vietnam, Canadian Solar employs over12,000 workers worldwide. This translates into more than 26 GW of panel shipments, or over 70 million PV modules, in the past 17 years. Together with Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar is ushering the way into a new era of clean, competitive, mainstream power.



Yeah - we could keep on sending China our cheap raw materials and China could send us its expensive manufactured product in return.

Even if they manufacture them, why would Canada want to waste its resources manufacturing panels that China is willing to have its own taxpayers subsidize for the Canadian consumer? We could always manufacture something else.
 

Bar Sinister

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Even if they manufacture them, why would Canada want to waste its resources manufacturing panels that China is willing to have its own taxpayers subsidize for the Canadian consumer? We could always manufacture something else.

You seem to be repeating yourself.
 

Twila

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It will only be a matter of time before Trump reverses all of his policies, while at the same time claiming that is what he intended all the time.

ah, yes. The double reverse reverse psycho out. brilliant. If'n you're dealing with 5 yrs olds and candy.

You know, there was a world wide wet slapping sound when he made mention of maybe you know, getting back into the TPP. Ladies and Gentleman: The President of the USA. What a flounder.
 

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ah, yes. The double reverse reverse psycho out. brilliant. If'n you're dealing with 5 yrs olds and candy.

You know, there was a world wide wet slapping sound when he made mention of maybe you know, getting back into the TPP. Ladies and Gentleman: The President of the USA. What a flounder.

It's enough to make one eel.
 

White_Unifier

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Why do you think I posted a link? This is right off the website.

Besides serving as a leading manufacturer of solar PV modules and provider of solar energy solutions, Canadian Solar has a geographically diversified pipeline of utility-scale power projects. With the company’s recent acquisition of Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar’s total project pipeline is now 11 GW, including an increase of the late-stage project pipeline to over 1.6 GW. With state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in Canada, China and Vietnam, Canadian Solar employs over12,000 workers worldwide. This translates into more than 26 GW of panel shipments, or over 70 million PV modules, in the past 17 years. Together with Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar is ushering the way into a new era of clean, competitive, mainstream power.



Yeah - we could keep on sending China our cheap raw materials and China could send us its expensive manufactured product in return.

Raise taxes on the net profits of non-renewable-resource-extraction businesses. That will make our raw materials exports less attractive. This in turn would lower the CAD and so increase the export of our value-added products. Just not those products that China's willing to give us for free. We should welcome those.