Trudeau directly addresses protesters on pipeline

Colpy

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what does your lil' import "factoid" have to do with Energy East?

Really??

LOL

If there is a pipeline east delivering 1.1 million barrels of crude a day,and if we twin that line to ship NG east, and if (as proposed) we build an EXPORT terminal, and convert the already existing LNG plant to a liquification plant, we can supply the huge Irving refinery with crude, and we can export massive amounts of energy out, instead of importing oil from our enemies.

Additionally, we can help free our allies from dependance on Russian gas, and oil, as well as get rich.

And pipelines are many times safer than the rail currently used to ship oil east.

It is a win-win-win-win situation with no down side.
 

waldo

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Really??

LOL

If there is a pipeline east delivering 1.1 million barrels of crude a day,and if we twin that line to ship NG east, and if (as proposed) we build an EXPORT terminal, and convert the already existing LNG plant to a liquification plant, we cansupply the huge Irving refinery with crude, and we can export massive amounts of energy out, instead of importing oil from our enemies.

LOL? Really? Since the pipeline presumes to carry 'tar sludge'... what Eastern refinery is capable of processing it and, in turn, providing it as a substitute for today's domestic import oil complement? There certainly is an expressed intent for multiple EXPORT terminals... as in "Energy East - the export pipeline".

while you're answering the above question/challenge I'd be keen to see you detail the actual import qty/country... you know, provide something that aligns with your boogeyman IMPORT posturing. Thanks in advance.
 

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LOL? Really? Since the pipeline presumes to carry 'tar sludge'... what Eastern refinery is capable of processing it and, in turn, providing it as a substitute for today's domestic import oil complement? There certainly is an expressed intent for multiple EXPORT terminals... as in "Energy East - the export pipeline".

Irving Oil


while you're answering the above question/challenge I'd be keen to see you detail the actual import qty/country... you know, provide something that aligns with your boogeyman IMPORT posturing. Thanks in advance.


Google
 

petros

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Or you could just get a snow cat and go till your snowfields.

Why a snow cat?


Heavy oil from the Orinoco Basin is green and sustainable.

 

Colpy

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LOL? Really? Since the pipeline presumes to carry 'tar sludge'... what Eastern refinery is capable of processing it and, in turn, providing it as a substitute for today's domestic import oil complement? There certainly is an expressed intent for multiple EXPORT terminals... as in "Energy East - the export pipeline".

while you're answering the above question/challenge I'd be keen to see you detail the actual import qty/country... you know, provide something that aligns with your boogeyman IMPORT posturing. Thanks in advance.

Sorry, I am not Arthur Irving's confident, he doesn't let me in on his oil purchasing plan.

I do know much of the rail stuff comes from North Dakota (the stuff that blew in Lac Megantic was bound for Saint John), some from the oil sands.................I do know we import LNG from Qatar, and that both oil and LNG is bought on spot markets. I do know some of the tankers are fully crewed by Russians (not the usual European officers with Filipino crews).....one suspects the oil on then is also Russian. I do know we have bought from Venezuela.........another despotic hellhole.

As for refining capacity, we already refine oil sands oil..........and any needed modifications could and would be built.

Refinery modification/construction is part of the idea. Considering the Irvings are pushing the plan to supply their refinery, I think they can refine it.

The idiots on the left first complain we don't refine our own oil, then do their best to make that impossible.
 

petros

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Everyone seems to forget what Justine's dad built in Western Canada to use as an economic windfall.

It wasn't a rainbow factory was it?
 

petros

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Cool. If the Libs get in they can advance their oil sands and pipeline plans in the Asia Pacific Gateway venue they masterminded.
 

waldo

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as I'm aware, none of the three eastern Canadian refineries – Suncor, Valero, and Irving – have publicly announced intentions to make the required investment, plan and implement refinery changes to support the processing of tar sands bitumen.

citation request for your claim that Irving Oil is currently capable of processing tar sludge or has announced an intention to convert it's current processing to be able to handle tar sludge.


nope, sorry... you can' find the latest and greatest oil import figures... here's a clue why, from the NEB:

Important Notification: From April 2013 onwards, the information about crude oil imports (Light and Heavy) for Atlantic, Ontario and Quebec has been suppressed to meet confidentiality data requirements of Statistics Canada.
you won't find the current import figures on the StatCan website either... hey Cappy, what are they hiding?

oh wait, what's this... I trust that if you won't accept the following, you'll certainly counter it with your googly best, hey? :lol: Imagine that... U.S. exports now account for the significant majority of Eastern Canadian imports.

In recent media reports and in public materials, TransCanada claims Eastern Canadian refineries import 86 per cent of their daily needs from more expensive overseas sources including Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela and Algeria.

But, the most recent year-to-date 2014 Statistics Canada information, obtained by Environmental Defence and Greenpeace Canada, shows no more than 14 per cent of Eastern Canada’s oil imports come from those four countries. In fact, Eastern Canada imports no oil from Venezuela and almost no oil from Nigeria. Quebec, the only eastern province to import oil from Algeria, imported 11 per cent while 52 per cent of its oil came from the United States.