Trudeau cabinet welcomes Trump's Keystone XL decision

taxslave

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 25, 2008
36,362
4,340
113
Vancouver Island
Are there NIMBY problems all over Canada?

Not bad north of 60. Too cold for the protesters and too far from tv cameras.

I cannot answer this, but I believe the answer to our lack or refineries can be found in oil company board rooms.

Where would you build them and make a profit? Would more NA refineries positively affect our bottom line, or would they reduce the margins of our present facilities? Is there enough demand here to bother building more refineries?

This is not government asking the questions or building production facilities. In Canada, it would be private business - with whatever financial incentives they receive from the government. And why not? It's foolish to spend your own money for big dollar expansion. Might as well skim what you can from other sources.
Also has a lot to do with regressive environmental laws and high taxes in Canada. Easier to send the crude south to where people are willing to work.
 

Murphy

Executive Branch Member
Apr 12, 2013
8,181
0
36
Ontario
Perhaps, but businesses set long term goals. They lobby and get laws changed or amended. I think the board rooms know that they can get their way in spite of politicians. The winds of change are always blowing.
 

Mowich

Hall of Fame Member
Dec 25, 2005
16,649
998
113
76
Eagle Creek
Trudeau is already dizzy from turning which ever way the wind blows at the moment. I don't think he gives a damn about pipe lines, he just tries to appease whomever squawks the loudest, the ones for or against it.
When the environmentalists are on his aXX he's going to phase out the oil industry. When the pro pipeline are after him big time, he's all for the pipeline.
I think the thought of opposing Trump makes him mess his drawers!
Oh well, let's see what he thinks next week.

Justin is anti-pipeline, DM and would dearly love to see every single one dismantled and the oil left in the ground. Fortunately for the ROC, his government desperately needs the money generated by the sale of our oil. It is a political reality for his government that in spite of all the chat about Climate Change and phasing out fossil fuels, they will be relying on the money from oil for some time to come.

The environmentalists will most definitely be on his butt, after all he is their chosen champion leading the charge to a more sustainable society based on wind and solar power, electric cars and an organic garden in every yard. They will not appeased by anything other than the immediate halt to the extraction and use of all fossil fuels. As I write this there are plans being drawn-up for massive protests once the weather is conducive to holding larger demonstrations, mind you.

The thought of opposing Trump would make anyone soil their shorts, DM considering how badly that has gone for those who have done so. If Justin is seen to be appeasing anyone, it will not be the environmentalists or the pro-pipeline people, it will be the man who occupies the oval office. He is going to need every single iota of diplomatic aplomb he can possibly muster. Justin and Donald are like the yin and yang of politics in N America. According to Chinese philosophy, this is not necessarily a bad thing for the belief is that opposing forces may actually complement each other as they are interdependent in the natural world. It would be a fine thing to trust that this ancient belief might find fruition in the meeting of these two men.