Trickle of Illegal Immigrants into Canada Could Become Deluge in the Spring

Tecumsehsbones

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Yes, ethnic nationalism.

More significantly, increasing industrialization means it's much more difficult for "anybody to find work." At the same time, the more industrial a society is, the more interconnected and organizationally complex it must be. This means less "freedom" in the sense of being on your own, and both more responsibilities and more support for the individual.
 

White_Unifier

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What part "couldn't tell you" don't you understand?

So why would you propose vouchers in this context if you don't even know how they'd solve this particular situation?

More significantly, increasing industrialization means it's much more difficult for "anybody to find work." At the same time, the more industrial a society is, the more interconnected and organizationally complex it must be. This means less "freedom" in the sense of being on your own, and both more responsibilities and more support for the individual.

True. But society can be organized at different levels, whether local, provincial, national or international or even a combination of these.

Of course in a complex society, everyone must accept more responsibilities, but why presume that foreign nationals aren't prepared to accept these responsibilities?

I guess that brings us back to the brown-skins.
 

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Of course in a complex society, everyone must accept more responsibilities, but why presume that foreign nationals aren't prepared to accept these responsibilities?

I guess that brings us back to the brown-skins.

Oh, that's just good ol' f*ck-you-Jack-I-got-mine tribalism.

It's not entirely a race thing. Immigrants from Italy, Ireland, Hungary, the Baltics, and Ukraine received similar treatment. It's just easier for them to melt in.
 

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Oh, that's just good ol' f*ck-you-Jack-I-got-mine tribalism.

It's not entirely a race thing. Immigrants from Italy, Ireland, Hungary, the Baltics, and Ukraine received similar treatment. It's just easier for them to melt in.

Now now, are you insinuating that most Canadians are tribalists at heart? I'd call them nationalist myself, but both terms work in this case I think.
 

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Tay...the protector of....Castro.
Now that has to be the strangest thing I've ever been accused of and I wonder how you got there.....


Trudeau must dispel the myth there's 'always a place' for refugees in Canada

What can Canada do about the thousands of asylum seekers now pouring over the Quebec border from the United States every month?

The answer: very little.

The prime minister might've forgotten that he can speak directly to people seeking asylum, something he did in January, when he tweeted: "To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada"

It would be naive and overly simplistic to assume that the approximately 3,800 people who crossed into Quebec in the first two weeks of August, for example, did so based on a couple of months-old tweets from the prime minister.

Surely anti-immigrant rhetoric from Donald Trump, the promise of deportation from the Department of Homeland Security, and the enduring struggle to rebuild parts of Haiti seven years on from that massive earthquake that displaced these refugees in the first place have all contributed to the decision by these asylum seekers to cross into Canada.

But the prime minister's tweets are part and parcel of the narrative this government has been working hard to build globally about Canada as a haven of inclusivity and welcome.

We are peacekeepers, not fighters; we will take in tens of thousands of Syrian refugees, even as the U.S. closes its doors; we encourage immigration, instead of blaming it for our problems. If you were a Haitian refugee facing deportation from the U.S., why would you not try your luck with Canada?

Trudeau must dispel the myth there's 'always a place' for refugees in Canada: Robyn Urback - CBC News | Opinion
 

Tecumsehsbones

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They could swing an axe.

They could operate several varieties of idiot sticks. So can Haitians. And Syrians.

I'm not even sure what I was thinking in detail. So how do you think it went down? After WWI, we got a little wary of foreigners, especially German-speaking ones?

You shoulda seen what we did. Many states passed laws making it a crime to display signage in German, or to teach children German. Mostly after the war was over.
 

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They could operate several varieties of idiot sticks. So can Haitians. And Syrians.



You shoulda seen what we did. Many states passed laws making it a crime to display signage in German, or to teach children German. Mostly after the war was over.

Sounds like white people hatred .
 

White_Unifier

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Sounds like white people hatred .

Well, a specific type of White called Germans, yes. Canada has such laws too. remember Berlin Ontario, renamed Kitchener Ontario? Berliners (those in Ontario, that is) had set up their own German language schools and sent their children there until the Government of Ontario banned such schools and forced them all to convert to English. I'm sure that law is still in the books seeing that those schools never came back.

While discrimination in the US might be more in favour of Whites, in Canada it's more towards English and French Canadians specifically.
 

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One hundred years ago, a thriving Canadian city disappeared from the map.

As of Sept. 1, 1916, the southwestern Ontario community of Berlin ceased to be. On a grim day in the middle of a war fought to assert Canada's best values, bullies and xenophobes won a battle for control of our national identity. A city of 19,000 people rooted in its century-old Germanic heritage was forced to deny its own existence, succumbing to the acts of intimidation and accusations of disloyalty perpetrated by small-minded patriots who resisted the truth that Canada could be other than anglo.

The historical reality of Berlin was wiped away from memory, and the city we call Kitchener came into being. This wasn't just a simple, innocent adjustment of municipal nomenclature like York turning into Toronto or Bytown becoming Ottawa. It was a contrived and calculated switch that served the propaganda needs of Canada's imperialist leaders: A subversive reference to the capital of the hated Hun could be annihilated from the pristine Ontario landscape and replaced with a tribute to Britain's recently deceased Secretary of State for War, Lord Kitchener

A century later, when it is not all that clear that Canadians have much appetite for remembering the finer details of the so-called Great War, a name-change on an Ontario map may seem like little more than a colonial-era fait accompli. Internecine hatred on the home front just doesn't fit the well-meaning version of Canada's war that history's image-builders have manufactured – all those belated feel-good stories of a courageous young nation coming of age and forging its independence through the sweat and sacrifice of Vimy.

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...juvenation-of-berlin-ontario/article31576065/
 

White_Unifier

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How deep are the pockets up there?

Any who doesn't find employment before the hearing date and who cannot prove a legitimate refugee status should be sent back. That said, any who does find employment should be free to work visa-free.
 

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Any who doesn't find employment before the hearing date and who cannot prove a legitimate refugee status should be sent back. That said, any who does find employment should be free to work visa-free.

In reality... you're just going to have to start issuing checks... or cheques as you may.