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Trump delays increase in tariffs on Chinese goods by two weeks 'as a gesture of goodwill'


President Trump said he would delay until Oct. 15 an increase in the tariff rate on $250 billion in Chinese exports, from 25 percent to 30 percent. The increase had been scheduled to go into effect Oct. 1

source: WAPO


Gosh....how big of him.
 

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Trump delays increase in tariffs on Chinese goods by two weeks 'as a gesture of goodwill'


President Trump said he would delay until Oct. 15 an increase in the tariff rate on $250 billion in Chinese exports, from 25 percent to 30 percent. The increase had been scheduled to go into effect Oct. 1

source: WAPO


Gosh....how big of him.
Good it is time the Chinese play fair .
 

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Trump delays increase in tariffs on Chinese goods by two weeks 'as a gesture of goodwill'

President Trump said he would delay until Oct. 15 an increase in the tariff rate on $250 billion in Chinese exports, from 25 percent to 30 percent. The increase had been scheduled to go into effect Oct. 1
source: WAPO
Gosh....how big of him.

I think it is more like what's happening in the background OB

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Trump delays tariff hikes by two weeks
in 'good will' gesture to China

Earlier this month, Mnuchin said the U.S. and China have a “conceptual” agreement on enforcement concerns, emphasizing positive progress already made in trade talks, which are set to resume at high levels next month.
“I think the enforcement area we at least have a conceptual, an agreement on,” Mnuchin told Fox Business Network.
He also had a warning: President Donald Trump has no problem keeping heavy tariffs on Beijing if a deal can’t be reached.
 

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President trump could not be happier than to tax the hell out of Americans

As a member of the the ruling elite its his birthright
 

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President trump could not be happier than to tax the hell out of Americans

As a member of the the ruling elite its his birthright
Trump gave more to charity last year than all the democrat contenders combined . Greedy eh .
 

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President trump could not be happier than to tax the hell out of Americans
As a member of the the ruling elite its his birthright

Your post would make sense if he was a career politician, and not a first time from the business world using all the tools in the toolbox for negotiation.
 

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Trump delays increase in tariffs on Chinese goods by two weeks 'as a gesture of goodwill'


President Trump said he would delay until Oct. 15 an increase in the tariff rate on $250 billion in Chinese exports, from 25 percent to 30 percent. The increase had been scheduled to go into effect Oct. 1

source: WAPO


Gosh....how big of him.






Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trump is offering the Beijing Butchers a sensible chance.....................................


to REVISE their vicious policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you totally oblivious of the desperate risks that protestors in Hong Kong are running..................................


in a frantic effort to DEFEND the frayed remains.........................................


of the "basic Chinese democracy" that Our idiot Boy Justin......................................


has professed his admiration for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









Here is an article illustrating the HUGE economic mess that LIE-berals have made of international trade. The article illustrates that trade and job issues can not be sorted out by giving control over to a committee made up of LIE-beral loons such as Our idiot Boy Justin and a cabal of third world despots from places like China, Russia and Iran! With some comments of my own in brackets):

GUEST COLUMN: Trump, trade and the China syndrome
Special to Postmedia Network

Published: December 29, 2017. Updated: December 29, 2017 6:00 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

David T. Jones, Special to Postmedia Network. For centuries there was no question of trade being for “mutual benefit”.

Rather, states sought colonies, essentially for exploitation, to extract useful material from at low prices, while dumping excess industrial products manufactured in the “mother country” at high cost.

Ostensibly, economic theory eventually moved on to “mutual benefit” with the emphasis on “comparative advantage”, wherein each country provides the products it produces most efficiently and a trade balance results.

This theory falters when countries with effectively nothing worthy of trade end up borrowing from those countries who still push products upon them. The resulting debt loads have economy-distorting consequences for both borrowers and lenders.

(Much of our current trade problem is related to credit. In a gold based economy- meaning were your wealth is measured in gold coins and your spending is limited by how many coins you have; and prices are regulated as well since the seller may choose to accept fewer coins- on the grounds that a cheap sale is better than no sale - if you are poor. But all these logica; mechanisms that used to regulate sales and trade are GONE! Swept away in a tide of paper money and easy credit.)

(After WW2, western govts chose to end the “gold standard”- the traditional measurement of wealth- in large part because of all the looting and destruction that occurred during the war- staggering sums of gold and art and all manner of stuff was stolen or lost.)

(Going off that gold standard allowed govt to get things running again while police sifted through various claims for compensation and ownership that are still going on 70 years later- with various art galleries arguing over who owns what. Problem is the gold standard is gone and it has not been replaced with anything logical - there is no longer any real control over trade and deficits. This permits bankrupt Greeks to hide the scale of their bankruptcy. And it allows Chinese and other third world countries to manipulate currency on a grand scale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

One classic approach for a country developing its industry and economy is to put high tariffs on imported goods. Theoretically, once these industries are strong enough to “stand on their own”, the tariffs can be reduced or eliminated.

(And the people of some countries consider it a Patriotic duty to buy only locally made products and such people may face local backlash if they import products their neighbours see as unpatriotic and this unofficial economic policy meddles with trade results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Of course, that approach reduces profits of the now powerful manufacturers, who see no interest in enhancing competition. For a generation following World War II, the U.S. had no real trade competition. It was the global powerhouse for manufacturing efficiency and technological innovation.

U.S. products, particularly automobiles, supported a vast U.S. middle class in which an auto worker could count on a well-paid, lifetime job. The U.S. ran trade surpluses and was the great global lender. Goods imported from other countries were regarded as cheap and shoddy.

But then the U.S. lost its “mojo.” Competitors, most notably Japan, were able to take advantage of new factories, using new technology and cheap labor. They challenged simultaneous U.S. technological failures, high prices, and social arrogance. U.S. cars were suddenly inferior.

The media were besieged with articles and studies suggesting Japan was about to lead the world in everything. Japan obliged this fear by purchasing a wide array of highly visible U.S. properties.

(The reality is that Japan was accumulating a mass of Yankee dollars and needed to do something with this cash- and what better idea than to re-invest that cash in United States - with its stable govt and judicial respect for investors?? Japan took paper money that can and does fluctuate in value- and one has only to look at the vast crap game/floating casino that is the stock market to understand how volatile mere paper is- and turned their dollars into hard assets- such as real estate- which happens to be a product in ever shorter supply and ever increasing value!!!!!!!!!)

U.S. government trade efforts focused on thwarting Japan, and in an ancillary manner Mexico, whose low labor prices were (supposedly) producing a “vast sucking sound,” in Ross Perot’s words, pulling U.S. jobs south of the Rio Grande.

(Yes- that “vast sucking sound” was heard here in Canada as well- with the LIE-beral Chretien govt presiding over a debauched Cdn economy where our dollar hit $63 cents U.S. A combination of low Mexican wages and insane LIE-beral vote buying nearly bankrupted Canada! Only major tax increases by LIE-berals and serious cuts to federal fund transfers to the provinces reversed the flow of red ink!)

(And later, the Conservative govt of Harper held the line on federal wage increases for civil service Hogs! Frugality is a good thing- too bad LIE-berals despise it and must literally have guns put to their heads to make them save a penny! Chretien LIE-berals ran on a promise to kill NAFTA and then chickened out after winning the election- the economic reality of dead NAFTA costs would be too high!!!!!!!)

But while America was focused on Japan and Mexico, China, quietly and efficiently “ate our lunch”.

China now has a massive trade surplus driven by manufacturing efficiency and currency manipulation.

(Yes- that paper money is wonderful stuff- you can make it worth whatever you want- especially in a CLOSED economic system like China where foreigners do NOT get to see the books! Its even easier to manipulate such paper when local Chinese govt gets to decide what products MAY be offered for sale to the local people! This is in sharp contrast to the Cdn experience where our dollar went from that nasty $63 cents over to $1.05 U.S. and took a PILE of jobs away as Cdn goods began to cost to much!)

His country arguably now the factory for the world, Chinese leader Xi Jinping recently announced a “Made in China 2025” policy described as “involving local content requirements and the elimination of foreign suppliers.”

(So xenophobic Chinese are now implementing a “made in China” program that makes the Trump model look open and inclusive! As I mentioned - there are govts out there that “encourage” buying local products by various SHADY means!! And yet Our idiot Boy Justin thinks he can safely destroy NAFTA with his feminist/native rights blather and then make up the economic difference with Chinese business? HAHAHAHAHA!!!)

For the U.S., the past 20 years have seen the loss of two million manufacturing jobs.

(Automation is the real killer of most of these jobs. Robots are increasingly commonplace even in third world pest holes- its all about speed and efficiency and robots don’t get tired or sick or forget details. Reality is there are very few jobs to recover-especially in the automotive business which Trump is mainly focussed on. In addition -thanks to huge competition our vehicles are more reliable and longer lasting than ever before- meaning we buy new ones less often!)

Plus, growing frustration expressed by displaced workers that trade agreements reducing costs for manufacturing imports have cost them their jobs, for which “retraining”, or McJobs, are poor substitutes.

(LIE-berals keep assuring us our economy is “booming” but desperate LIE-berals do NOT want to tell us that the only good full time jobs out there are for govt employees- with the rest of us stuck in those McJobs and struggling financially! Cdn biz is cutting costs by killing good full time work and replacing it with part time and short term crap work. This trend will only increase as LIE-berals bomb business with their electricity price gouging and minimum wage garbage! The ugly truth is we Cdns cannot produce enough gravy to satisfy the civil service Hogs that LIE-berals rely on to keep them in power! It is LIE-beral gravy traded for Hog votes- and SCREW the general public!)

Hence, U.S. President Donald Trump’s urge to eliminate or reject trade agreements such as the Trans Pacific Partnership and call into question agreements such as NAFTA with Canada and Mexico

(Trump has VALID concerns over NAFTA- and he is using NAFTA to push LIE-beral Cdns to get MORE SERIOUS about national security and Muslim terror!! In additiob Trump is using NAFTA to push Mexico to tighten its border!! There is no reason for Mexico to IGNORE thousands of illegals from places like Guatemala and Nicaragua trekking through Mexican territory to literally invade United States!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(IN addition a tighter border would reduce the amount of drug and gun smuggling that is going on and Mexicans suffer even more from gang violence than Yankees do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Trump’s claim, which resonates massively with voters, if not economists, is that the U.S. has been outsmarted and out-negotiated in these agreements.

(Western govts decided after WW2- that breaking down trade barriers would promote peace as countries that do lots of business are presumed to be unlikely to fight each other. This concept works with Europeans but it clearly does not work with third world nations in Middle East and in Asia! It is China that is happily stirring the pot in blood soaked Darfur/South Sudan as they pursue oil and natural gas contracts. It is Russians and Chinese who happily sell weapons to Iran, North Korea and Syria and it is bankrupt western govts that get to deal with the swarming millions of refugees- many of whom represent national security risks!)

China is a tougher problem, especially since Washington is desperately attempting to induce Beijing to castrate North Korea’s nuclear program.

Perhaps, while it is currently a rudimentary idea, a coordinated U.S./European Union, World Trade Organization action might secure better Chinese adherence to WTO rules.

(IN other words- when Trump called out NATO “slackers” especially including Canada- he was on the right track! A united front - economically AND militarily can achieve better results than a few isolated individuals! And a firm commitment to greater economic cooperation between like minded western countries can balance out influence from dictators and bullies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Too bad Our idiot boy Justin is so bigoted against Yankees he would rather see NAFTA die than agree with Yankees on ANYTHING! Our idiot Boy is deliberately hurting NAFTA by ignoring very real Yankee fears that Cdn national security is so sloppy that Yankees risk importing Muslim terrorists along with their Cdn dairy and softwood lumber!)

(LIE-beral policy is running in circles as usual- they shun trade with the Yankee democracy and seek out trade with Chinese dictators! But what can we expect form Our idiot Boy- who holds his fathers vile values! After all it was Pierre Trudope who heaped fawning praise on Chinese Chairman Mao “for his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” just so he could cement his power over China!)

Jones is a retired U.S. State Department senior foreign service career officer. A version of this column first appeared in The Epoch Times
 

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President trump could not be happier than to tax the hell out of Americans

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OH hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your delusions are suffering from the same rate of inflation................................


as LIE-beral egos.................................


a couple more puffs and you will POP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!












Here is a novel version of justice- Yankee style. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Woman who used counterfeit check at Walmart gets sterilized in hopes of more lenient sentence

From Associated Press. Published: February 7, 2018. Updated: February 7, 2018 6:05 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Crime

OKLAHOMA CITY — An Oklahoma woman convicted of using a counterfeit check had herself medically sterilized at the suggestion of the judge, who said he would consider it during her sentencing.

U.S. District Judge Stephen Friot made the suggestion to 34-year-old Summer Thyme Creel in June, The Oklahoman reported. In his order, the judge noted that Creel had relinquished her parental rights to six of her seven children.

“Comparing the dates of Ms. Creel’s periods of habitual use of crack cocaine and methamphetamine … with the dates of birth of her seven children, it appears highly likely that some of Ms. Creel’s children were conceived, carried and born while Ms. Creel was a habitual user of these illicit substances,” the judge wrote in his order.

(IT is hard not to acknowledge that compulsive drug use, very probably funded by activity as a hooker is behind this woman having 7 children! Getting this woman sterilized will do nothing for her drug use or sex trade activities but we MUST appreciate the fact that at least she will not create any more unwanted children that ARE a burden on society! Especially as some or all of the children likely were born with a drug addiction and may also be wrestling with disabilities of various sort due to Mom`s drug use during pregnancy!)

Friot said he can consider anything about Creel’s background, character and conduct during sentencing.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jessica Perry, though, asked the judge not consider the procedure during sentencing, saying Creel has a fundamental constitutional right to procreate and that she had an interest in the procedure prior to the court order.

(OH? And what about OUR RIGHT not to be burdened with the hugely damaging and very stupid lifestyle choices of a drug addled hooker? In the 1970`s, feminists who were campaigning for abortion on demand told us that abortion is no more serious for a woman than trimming her toe nails- therefore it is a MASSIVE STRETCH of logic to suggest there is a constitutional right to burden others with your unwanted offspring resulting from your drug addled sex biz?)

“Furthermore, Creel’s decision to have (or not have) additional children is sufficiently removed from the type of criminal activity involved in this case that such a factor is irrelevant to determining a sentence,” the prosecutor wrote.

(There is every reason to believe that this woman will continue to live her life as a drug addled hooker- with no capacity to provide care for any children she has now or may have in future in a socially accepted AND LEGAL fashion! The rights of society and the unborn children are paramount here! Only an irresponsible LIE-beral- putting the rights of a grossly selfish individual ahead of society- would argue that point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And shall we not ask- in a Yankee society where 50 million people have NO medical care- just WHO is paying for this woman when she heads to hospital to give birth? And who is paying all the legal bills to formally take the newborns away from her because she is a drug addled hooker who cannot manage her own life without resorting to criminal nonsense?)

Creel pleaded guilty last year to using a counterfeit check at a Walmart in Moore in 2014. Her sentencing is scheduled for this month.

(Should we assume the counterfeit cheque was used in a FAILED attempt to provide socially acceptable levels of care for the one child still in her custody? Just how many crimes and misdemeanors has this woman committed while popping out those SEVEN KIDS! And how much welfare money was she paid before state authorities removed ALL the children but one from her home???????????)

(And in related news - CDN LIE-berals and their civil service Hog allies are HOPING WE HAVE FORGOTTEN about the native woman from western Canada who was a hopeless crack addict and full time hooker to support her drug habit who was pregnant with her 10th or 12th child- that we know of and each child was born with fetal alcohol syndrome and various drug addictions as well as assorted mental health disabilities thanks to all the drugs!

And yet our LIE-beral chattering class suggested she has the right to live as she sees fit- just too bad that the damaged kids she is popping out HAVE NO RIGHTS! And we- who are on the hook for child support for all these damaged citizens HAVE NO RIGHTS EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

( Yes - in the LIE-beral Brave New World - the “lifestyle choices” of a drug addled hooker trump common sense and logic! No wonder there are so many LIE-beral supporters in the world! Take away the gravy from civil serivce union HOGS and take the welfare gravy from drug addicts and poverty pimps - and the LIE-beral Party DIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(IN related news- a professor at a B.C. university told news reporters that the native crack addicted native hooker was “courageous”! What are they smoking at colleges and universities?? Better yet- we should ask what kind of poisoned CRAP they are teaching our kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Trump says he will meet with China's vice premier on Friday amid new optimism in trade talks


The president left open the possibility that the United States and China might finally resolve some of their trade differences, but he also suggested he might walk away from a deal once again. His comments moved the stock market higher.

source: WAPO
 

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Trump says he will meet with China's vice premier on Friday amid new optimism in trade talks


The president left open the possibility that the United States and China might finally resolve some of their trade differences, but he also suggested he might walk away from a deal once again. His comments moved the stock market higher.

source: WAPO
Did you see where Trump forced the Chinese shipping giant to sell its ownership of one of America’s premier container terminals ? The Port of Long Beach , COSCO was forced to sell to an Australian firm .
 

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Did you see where Trump forced the Chinese shipping giant to sell its ownership of one of America’s premier container terminals ? The Port of Long Beach , COSCO was forced to sell to an Australian firm .
I wonder if the Trumps owns the Australian firm?
 

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Did you see where Trump forced the Chinese shipping giant to sell its ownership of one of America’s premier container terminals ? The Port of Long Beach , COSCO was forced to sell to an Australian firm .
Socialists love getting gubmint involved in business
 

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Did you see where Trump forced the Chinese shipping giant to sell its ownership of one of America’s premier container terminals ? The Port of Long Beach , COSCO was forced to sell to an Australian firm .
Do you have a link......source........for that info?? thanks.
 

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Trump delays increase in tariffs on Chinese goods by two weeks 'as a gesture of goodwill'

President Trump said he would delay until Oct. 15 an increase in the tariff rate on $250 billion in Chinese exports, from 25 percent to 30 percent. The increase had been scheduled to go into effect Oct. 1
source: WAPO
Gosh....how big of him.
You would like China to screw the us and us Canadians in the bum, like you like the way china killed about a hundred million of its own OBVIOUSLY stupid people just becoming the communist tyranny it is.

Obviously YOU must hate Muslims and falon gong and christians and support their torture and imprisonment for political religious and political views. You would like this to happen in the US while you support not including gangs in red flag gun laws...

Your goal seems to be to have a totally repressive tyrannical regime that eats gunless babies.