Toyota owners affected by this 2010 recall.

Risus

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Toyotas are domestic. lol Canadians build them in Cambridge, Ontario.
Do Canadians build Harleys here?
Personally, I prefer quality. So I'd probably rather have a BWM bike or car. Maybe a Honda car or Mercedes. Maybe even something Swedish.
Toyotas might be made in Cambridge, but the profits go to Japan.
Saabs, made in Sweden, were owned by GM. I'm not sure if they still are, they were trying to sell that division.
 

countryboy

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Toyotas might be made in Cambridge, but the profits go to Japan.
Saabs, made in Sweden, were owned by GM. I'm not sure if they still are, they were trying to sell that division.

I wouldn't get too hung up on net profits going to Japan. That's a lot of jobs and taxes generated in Canada, not to mention component supplier jobs, along with lots of spin-off benefits. It's easily a net contributor to the Canadian economy...and better to have the plant here than buy Toyotas made offshore, don't you think?
 

Risus

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I wouldn't get too hung up on net profits going to Japan. That's a lot of jobs and taxes generated in Canada, not to mention component supplier jobs, along with lots of spin-off benefits. It's easily a net contributor to the Canadian economy...and better to have the plant here than buy Toyotas made offshore, don't you think?
A lot of the components are shipped over and the cars just assembled here.
 

countryboy

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A lot of the components are shipped over and the cars just assembled here.

Really? Do you know how the ratio of local vs. offshore components used? It would be quite a departure from the usual practise as I used to know it. I'm not saying it isn't true (because I don't have those numbers), but Toyota - being the inventors of the "J.I.T." (Just In Time) system for components/parts - usually relies heavily on parts suppliers to carry much of the inventories, and having those suppliers located as close the assembly plant as possible is one way to make it happen.
 

AnnaG

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Toyotas might be made in Cambridge, but the profits go to Japan.
Saabs, made in Sweden, were owned by GM. I'm not sure if they still are, they were trying to sell that division.
Yeah, no profits Canadian Toyotas stay here. lmao
Saab isn't a bad car last I heard. Volvo seem to be quite reliable. Also Audis, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Volkswagon, Porsche, Bentley, Landrover, Austin/BMW Mini.

I rather like Japanese quality parts, too. Whereas a lot of North American parts are crap. Sometimes one of the reasons why they are crap is because of Chinese components.
 

countryboy

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Yeah, no profits Canadian Toyotas stay here. lmao
Saab isn't a bad car last I heard. Volvo seem to be quite reliable. Also Audis, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Volkswagon, Porsche, Bentley, Landrover, Austin/BMW Mini.

You forgot Lamborghini!
 

Risus

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Yeah, no profits Canadian Toyotas stay here. lmao
Saab isn't a bad car last I heard. Volvo seem to be quite reliable. Also Audis, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Volkswagon, Porsche, Bentley, Landrover, Austin/BMW Mini.

I rather like Japanese quality parts, too. Whereas a lot of North American parts are crap. Sometimes one of the reasons why they are crap is because of Chinese components.
Saab are good, but don't expect to find parts, if needed, in a hurry. Peugeot are good, Audis are crap, buy a porsche, Bentley and Landrover if you are rolling in money, a mini is too expensive for what you get.
 

Risus

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Really? Do you know how the ratio of local vs. offshore components used? It would be quite a departure from the usual practise as I used to know it. I'm not saying it isn't true (because I don't have those numbers), but Toyota - being the inventors of the "J.I.T." (Just In Time) system for components/parts - usually relies heavily on parts suppliers to carry much of the inventories, and having those suppliers located as close the assembly plant as possible is one way to make it happen.
No, unfortunately I don't know the ratio.
 

TenPenny

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A lot of the components are shipped over and the cars just assembled here.

Part of the GM restructuring plan showed that the North American content of a Toyota built in Canada was only 5% behind GM, and only 1% behind Chrysler.

The numbers were in the low 80's for percentage, if I recall correctly.
 

Risus

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Part of the GM restructuring plan showed that the North American content of a Toyota built in Canada was only 5% behind GM, and only 1% behind Chrysler.

The numbers were in the low 80's for percentage, if I recall correctly.
Thanks. That is higher than what I had heard.
 

Sporty883

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Got to have the class and the ass to ride a pretigious bike like a harley,, only class
acan pull it off. Otherwise a rice burner or bmw is the way to go,, when you have no taste.
I beat a bmw bike in my car,,, left the sucker eating my dust.... there was no way the wimp could catch me..
I get a laugh at the wannabe tagalongs that try to ride with a bunch of classy harley riders...
Gee people what part of Harley's only do ya'll not get.
 

AnnaG

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Saab are good, but don't expect to find parts, if needed, in a hurry. Peugeot are good, Audis are crap, buy a porsche, Bentley and Landrover if you are rolling in money, a mini is too expensive for what you get.
I think I'd rely on hubby's advice. I think he knows boot from bonnet. :D
There are a few Minis around here and I really like them. My choice would be the Cooper S convert. It's price is about the same as what I paid for my Dakota in 2001 and gets loads more km per liter. :D
BWM engines are extremely reliable and durable and I'd say the entire vehicle is better quality than a North Am car, especially since it isn't assembled in Mexico.
 

Risus

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I think I'd rely on hubby's advice. I think he knows boot from bonnet. :D
There are a few Minis around here and I really like them. My choice would be the Cooper S convert. It's price is about the same as what I paid for my Dakota in 2001 and gets loads more km per liter. :D
BWM engines are extremely reliable and durable and I'd say the entire vehicle is better quality than a North Am car, especially since it isn't assembled in Mexico.
They are too small. I couldn't even fit into one.
 

TenPenny

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Got to have the class and the ass to ride a pretigious bike like a harley,, only class
acan pull it off.

Okay; around here, most of the Harley riders fall into either of 2 categories:
thugs / drug dealers , or
past-middle aged men, most with pot bellies, with little hair.

If that's the class you like, hey, who's to argue?