Toronto Police obtain crack video of Ford

[CDNBear]

So yea it looks like the video may never be released to the public.

Thoughts?

So yea it looks like the video may never be released to the public.

Anybody else wanna jump on my bandwagon?

fify... lolz.

 

[BornRuff]

He's been Mayor how long? I think Toronto,s municipal government has office problems other than the single leadership problem. Stupid guys in power just like Mr Ford are very easy to employ/retain. I wonder if there aren't much bigger issues lurking.

If you are talking about Ford, I'd certainly bet on it. I'm certain there will be more coming from the police.

I'm not sure if an off hand remark................"Yeah, I smoked crack", would "fly" in the justice sytem. I think there is a strict protocol that would have to be followed. If he was as drunk as he indicates how does anyone know he wasn't just smoking something he thought was crack. I'm betting for a charge to stick there may have to be a sample of what he was smoking, not to mention maybe a time date and location and available witnesses. For all we know he may have just been "playing" with the media (which is something I'm sure I'd do if they were harassing me night and day).

Having said all that I would say it would be in everyone's best interest including his own if he did have time off away from the job for a month or so, but not as a punitive measure. (These cops that beat the sh*t out of old ladies just get shifted to desk duties or time off with pay) It's in everyone's best interest if he can be returned to health.

I am not talking in term of what he can be convicted of, I am simply talking about what he has admitted to.

He has admitted to smoking crack, he has admitted to buying weed. He has admitted to drinking and driving. Are those not crimes?

What constitutes "connections to criminal activity"? Mayors have an obligation to address many matters and pretty well all walks of society. I think the only way that would fly is if it can be proven that he or a family member benefitted financially. I don't think say having a coffee with a Hell's Angel at McDonalds would cut it.

The connections are well documented in the police report that has been released. Lisi has a fairly long criminal record, which is likely about to get longer.

Again, I am not talking about ways that we can legally kick him out of office. I am talking about reasons that he shouldn't be in office and we should be able to remove him, but obviously the law does not currently allow that.

 

[CDNBear]

He has admitted to smoking crack, he has admitted to buying weed. He has admitted to drinking and driving. Are those not crimes?

Admission isn't proof. Smoking crack isn't illegal, being in possession is. They'd need the rock to convict. The police would need to know how much weed he purchased to lay any charges. Depending on the amount it's either an indictable or summary offense. I've had a drink and driven. OMG I just admitted to committing a crime! Well just how much alcohol was in my blood? Without a record BAC, good luck with getting a conviction.

Again, I am not talking about ways that we can legally kick him out of office. I am talking about reasons that he shouldn't be in office and we should be able to remove him, but obviously the law does not currently allow that.

Well, up until the last month or so, all we had was innuendo, conjecture and rumour. His behavior really wasn't an issue.

Now, it's an issue.

 

[DaSleeper]

 

[BornRuff]

Admission isn't proof. Smoking crack isn't illegal, being in possession is. They'd need to rock to convict. The police would need to know how much weed he purchased to lay any charges. Depending on the amount it's either an indictable or summary offense. I've had a drink and driven. OMG I just admitted to committing a crime! Well just how much alcohol was in my blood? Without a record BAC, good luck with getting a conviction.

Did you miss the first part of that post? I never said anything about convicting him. I said that he has admitted to numerous criminal acts, which is very well documented
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Well, up until the last month or so, all we had was innuendo, conjecture and rumour. His behavior really wasn't an issue.

Now, it's an issue.

His behavior has been an ongoing issue pretty much since the day he started on city council. He has had one incident after another. Now we are just getting a better picture of how grave his issues really are.

 

[SLM]

RMR: Rick's Rant - Rob Ford - YouTube

 

[BornRuff]

Lol, are we forgetting that Ford is also accused of hanging out with a prostitute in his office.

As some people love to focus on, Layton was never charged with anything, and 17 or so years latter now, I'm pretty sure nothing is forthcoming. It is hard to make the same assumption about our mayor, but again, that is kind of besides the point.

People love to pick off individual transgressions that other politicians have made or been accused of, that are similar to one thing that Ford has done or been accused of. The problem for Ford is that it isn't one thing. If you look at the total list, who else even comes close?

 

[Locutus]

Filming for the first episode of Crackhouse Makeover begins this weekend.

 

[SLM]

Mercer nailed it as far as I'm concerned.

 

[DaSleeper]

Lol, are we forgetting that Ford is also accused of hanging out with a prostitute in his office.

As some people love to focus on, Layton was never charged with anything, and 17 or so years latter now, I'm pretty sure nothing is forthcoming. It is hard to make the same assumption about our mayor, but again, that is kind of besides the point.

People love to pick off individual transgressions that other politicians have made or been accused of, that are similar to one thing that Ford has done or been accused of. The problem for Ford is that it isn't one thing. If you look at the total list, who else even comes close?

accused is the word
And the hypocrisy and deflection of the left is boundless.....

 

[SLM]

Filming for the first episode of Crackhouse Makeover begins this weekend.

HGTV has really gone down hill lately.

 

[CDNBear]

Did you miss the first part of that post?

Nope.

I never said anything about convicting him.

True, you said nothing of convicting him, even though you already have.

I said that he has admitted to numerous criminal acts, which is very well documented

And I just showed you that they aren't criminal acts unless accompanied by evidence.

If you want to use an admission as a means to oust him, you better say good bye to Trudeau and a couple other politicians as well.
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His behavior has been an ongoing issue pretty much since the day he started on city council.

No it hasn't.

Now we are just getting a better picture of how grave his issues really are.

No, now we're seeing a man in over his head, treading water and sinking fast.

Lol, are we forgetting that Ford is also accused of hanging out with a prostitute in his office.

That nonsense was already taken care of nicely.

As some people love to focus on, Layton was never charged with anything...

LOL.

People love to pick off individual transgressions that other politicians have made or been accused of, that are similar to one thing that Ford has done or been accused of.

Actually, what some people like to do is, look at the differing reactions.

Like the author of this thread supporting a law suit against the Sun for printing the story about Layton in a rb-n-tug. Saying nothing about what it shows of Layton's character.

While on the other hand, we have this thread, lol.

The problem for Ford is that it isn't one thing. If you look at the total list, who else even comes close?

Oh, quantity makes a difference does it? You prove my point succinctly.

 

[BornRuff]

accused is the word
And the hypocrisy and deflection of the left is boundless.....

Lol, I'm pretty sure deflection is what you are doing posting about an accusation against Jack Layton in a discussion about Rob Ford.

 

[CDNBear]

Mercer nailed it as far as I'm concerned.

Yes he does, yes he does indeed.

 

[DaSleeper]

Lol, I'm pretty sure deflection is what you are doing posting about an accusation against Jack Layton in a discussion about Rob Ford.

I just posted the picture of a building,
You had to go look for the accusation.....Bazinga!

 

[SLM]

I just posted the picture of a building,
You had to go look for the accusation.....Bazinga!

So that's not the Crackhouse Makeover building???? Man, now I'm going to have to tune in to find out which one they picked!

 

[BornRuff]

Nope.

True, you said nothing of convicting him, even though you already have.

And I just showed you that they aren't criminal acts unless accompanied by evidence.

If you want to use an admission as a means to oust him, you better say good bye to Trudeau and a couple other politicians as well.

There is no means to oust him based on that. I have simply stated a simply fact that he has admitted to criminal acts.

Smoking crack is a crime(you implicitly have to possess it to smoke it), buying weed is a crime, driving drunk is a crime.

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No it hasn't.

City council has had to spend lots of time dealing with his behavior over the years. From racist, homophobic, and sexist comments on the council floor, to getting drunk and harassing people at a Leafs game(which is initially lied about, claiming that he wasn't even at the game).

No, now we're seeing a man in over his head, treading water and sinking fast.

The revelations we are seeing now go back years. We are getting a closer look at just what he has been doing while he has been mayor of Toronto.

That nonsense was already taken care of nicely.

LOL.

Haha, ya, real nicely.

Actually, what some people like to do is, look at the differing reactions.

Like the author of this thread supporting a law suit against the Sun for printing the story about Layton in a rb-n-tug. Saying nothing about what it shows of Layton's character.

While on the other hand, we have this thread, lol.

If Rob Ford was only facing allegations related to having a prostitute in his office, it might be analogous, but sadly that isn't the case.

Ford has been given a pass for many many many one off things.

Oh, quantity makes a difference does it? You prove my point succinctly.

Of course it does. One or two things can legitimately be looked at as a mistake or quirk. Wide reaching issues taking place over years are a different story.

I just posted the picture of a building,
You had to go look for the accusation.....Bazinga!

Your reply indicates otherwise.

 

[mentalfloss]

Looks like that SunTV contract is up.

Ezra am cry.


And in other absolutely shocking news..


Ontario’s Municipal Affairs Minister says Toronto city council’s decision to strip Mayor Rob Ford of most of his powers were legal and within the bounds of their authority.

“Based on the advice that I’ve received, they took actions that were within their control,” Linda Jeffrey said Tuesday at Queen’s Park.

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/try-it-now/?service=mobile&articleId=15510564

 

[CDNBear]

Smoking crack is a crime(you implicitly have to possess it to smoke it), buying weed is a crime, driving drunk is a crime.

Ok, so now that we've established you're right and I'm wrong, and your hard limit... So what do we do with all the other politicians that have admitted to smoking drugs recently?

serious question.

City council has had to spend lots of time dealing with his behavior over the years. From racist, homophobic, and sexist comments on the council floor, to getting drunk and harassing people at a Leafs game(which is initially lied about, claiming that he wasn't even at the game).

Like the bulk of his past transgressions, overblown nonsense.

The revelations we are seeing now go back years. We are getting a closer look at just what he has been doing while he has been mayor of Toronto.

That we didn't know about, while he was doing his job, nicely I might add.

Haha, ya, real nicely.

Ummm, ya, she's MissToronto. Look her up.

If Rob Ford was only facing allegations related to having a prostitute in his office, it might be analogous, but sadly that isn't the case.

Ummm, sadly that is the case, lol.

You have the contents of an interview, no oath, not tested in court, of one person. Against the evidence of who she actually is.

But don't let that stop you from deflecting, lol.

Of course it does. One or two things can legitimately be looked at as a mistake or quirk. Wide reaching issues taking place over years are a different story.

LMAO! Thanks for proving my point.

 

[BornRuff]

Ok, so now that we've established you're right and I'm wrong, and your hard limit... So what do we do with all the other politicians that have admitted to smoking drugs recently?

serious question.

Are you talking about the people who have admitted to smoking weed? They should be treated the same way that Rob Ford was treated when he told the media that he has smoked "a lot" of weed. The media laughed it off.

Like the bulk of his past transgressions, overblown nonsense.

That we didn't know about, while he was doing his job, nicely I might add.

Your comments are all highly subjective things. What we do know is that council has had to take time to deal with all of the situations that I mentioned.

Ummm, ya, she's MissToronto. Look her up.

Ummm, sadly that is the case, lol.

You have the contents of an interview, no oath, not tested in court, of one person. Against the evidence of who she actually is.

But don't let that stop you from deflecting, lol.

Lol, ya, everyone who has followed the news knows who she is. Btw, she is "Miss Toronto Tourism". There are about a million different pageants. What does that do to disprove the allegations?

LMAO! Thanks for proving my point.

What exactly is your point?

Looks like that SunTV contract is up.

Ezra am cry.


And in other absolutely shocking news..


Ontario’s Municipal Affairs Minister says Toronto city council’s decision to strip Mayor Rob Ford of most of his powers were legal and within the bounds of their authority.

“Based on the advice that I’ve received, they took actions that were within their control,” Linda Jeffrey said Tuesday at Queen’s Park.

Try It Now - The Globe and Mail

Apparently it took them 5 hours to film and 8 hours to edit it into 40 minutes of marginally acceptable TV.