Show me the tangible benefits that the SoW provides. Show me why I should support it instead of bemoaning the plight of women in the workplace.
Tories shutting down Status of Women offices
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Show me the tangible benefits that the SoW provides. Show me why I should support it instead of bemoaning the plight of women in the workplace.
Shutting down SoW won't help anything, IMO. I think what the federal gov'ts have done is forget about the status of Canadians in general. They've been to busy focusing on parts of Canada's population. I'd have preferred if they'd stuck to federal issues (issues that concern the population as a whole) and left regional issues and specific populations' concerns up to the regions and provinces.
Unlike you, Bit....oh master of "facts".
Here's a fact, the SOW is sexist and you support sexism like the rest of the mean old socialists out there.
We already have programs out there to help people, another one is a waste of money (I know socialists are very fond of wasting other people's money, but it has to stop somewhere).
Good post LRG, I concur heartly with you. Personally I think the Liberal Party needs to re-evaluate it's policies, is it Socialist or is it Liberal? I loathe Socialist ideals, I don't want to live in a Country where we are told what to do. I don't need a Nanny, I can decided for myself.
It's not like there aren't other organizations out there which are studying these things. Take a look at any of the countries womens studies programs in universities and you will see that this area has research allready. Peer reviewed research can and is used to inform policy makers and they in turn decide how it should change or reinforce policy decisions. The department still exists, we've just eliminated the wastefull spending and perhaps biased reports.
Yes Jay I am oppressed and I need a useless organization to investigate this non-existant oppression in fact I want another 25 million given to the status of Women to study how to make males subserviant. Yes let them pretent (all their studings are "Pending" speak ease for not going to happen) to do useless study after study thus ensuring a select group of hairy self righteous women get to feed of the public tit for ever and ever. Ah the Socialist Doctrine, you want it- you know you wannt it. Oh no I don't. :read2:
try reading the thread. read Judy's speech for two examples. women in the workplace is only one part of the issues they address.
Jay wrote: Oh you want it , baby...you want it real bad. :wink:
NO I don't, the Socialists scare me why would anyone want to live under Communist rule? It doesn't work, look at France that country is a couple years away from imploding. That is what ya meant right Jay?
NO I don't, the Socialists scare me why would anyone want to live under Communist rule? It doesn't work, look at France that country is a couple years away from imploding. That is what ya meant right Jay?
I read the thread. I didn't see anything that really needed to be addressed, especially anything that taxpayers money should be spent on. At least nothing that couldn't be fixed with non-government funded organizations. Or gender neutral organizations.
Well I suppose some females may lement the closing of Status for Women offices, I'm just not one of them. I don't think females need a special "Group" of females pretending to do good works for my gender it is the year 2006 it's time to except that women are equal (or greater than)to their males conterparts.
Jay don't make me drag out my old lady panties and beat you about the head with them.:laughing7:
Jay don't make me drag out my old lady panties and beat you about the head with them.:laughing7:
LOL Sassy
Nothing like having to look serene while sitting on tree bark in your bikini panties!! Ouchie!
Nothing like having to look serene while sitting on tree bark in your bikini panties!! Ouchie!
From my research, it seems that the SWAC centre only looks after women, whereas the new Component II – Building Sustainable Neighbourhoods of the Winnipeg Partnership Agreement addresses the same needs but for the whole community. I cannot see where this is a problem. Indeed, there may be more women looking for assistance from this organization, but so what. At least the assistance is also available to men without setting up two separate facilities.
Community Financial Services Centre: Winnipeg
"CFSC will respond to the needs of low-income families who traditionally can’t access mainstream banking services and as a result rely on pawnshops or over-pay for financial services offered by payday lenders.
Clients will be offered different options depending on their needs. The intent is to establish a financial track record so clients can tap into conventional banking institutions. Clients will receive: photo identification that will assist with cashing government cheques; access to financial education and counseling services; and will be encouraged to open bank accounts. These steps will help ensure clients are eligible for micro-loans that help to build a credit history thereby reducing the access gap to regular financial service providers.
The funds announced today are under Component II – Building Sustainable Neighbourhoods of the Winnipeg Partnership Agreement. This program supports the revitalization of communities in need through broadly based community economic development (CED) and social economy strategies and initiatives."
http://www.wd.gc.ca/mediacentre/2006/nov16-01a_e.asp
Women & Money Project: Winnipeg North
"The Gender Budget Project addresses women's economic inequality by demystifying the provincial budget for women in Manitoba while encouraging broader participation in the budget process. Use of popular education workshops to educate women on the budget process while at the same time consulting women on their budget priorities. Will also involve lobbying the Government of Manitoba to make gender analysis a part of the budget process and are working with the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives Manitoba to create an Alternative Provincial Budget."
http://www.campaign2000.ca/si/mb/mbl.html
Does the Community Financial Services Centre run a thrift shop, spend two years training individuals from functional illiteracy to full employability, help functionally illiterate women fill out the necessary forms to aquire valid identification documents?
does it even give a rat's ass when a woman doesn't know who to phone when a woman believes one of their children might be apprehended by CFS unjustly?
I'll answer that for you.
no it doesn't.
you really think the people that run these programs have the time and inclination to gussy up web pages to convince the self-righteous they should think otherwise about the work they do when they know damn well its a pointless exercise in futility anyways?
does it even give a rat's ass when a woman doesn't know who to phone when a woman believes one of their children might be apprehended by CFS unjustly?
I'll answer that for you.
no it doesn't.
you really think the people that run these programs have the time and inclination to gussy up web pages to convince the self-righteous they should think otherwise about the work they do when they know damn well its a pointless exercise in futility anyways?
These have nothing to do with womens issues Bit, so we don't need to pay this group to deal with them.
Nope, it's absurd to most tax payers.
This is without a doubt, the brightest thing I've read from you.
Nope, that was brilliant, just plain brilliant.
Actually in here, you're doing well, well after you stopped chewing on my ass. But I'm impressed.
Perfect, a bias organisation that is as vague as a socialist organistain could be.
No I'ld say he pretty much stepped on the facts, I can smell them from here, SOW shyte.
I already posted there names Jay, they were ignored.
Ditto Tonington.
Yep, just a couple parts that actually do something that remotely seem like they should be doing, but the rest is unjustifiable crap.
Dr Wombat said:
No it doesn't. It's simply another forum for a government funded organization to criticize the government of the day (be it Liberal, Conservative, NDP, etc). The only difference is the language used. Excuse me, but we have this thing called "the opposition", which is there to criticize the governing party. I don't know why we have to have special projects to do the same thing from one narrow (gender) perspective.
All of these organizations simply employ people to generate reports. I would like to see a list of concrete actual accomplishments the SoW office made. I don't mean reports, I mean results. Show me something that was actually done. You can't because their job isn't to DO anything, it's to write reports and talk. Hell, the media can do that, and have advertisers pay the bill, not me.