Top Ten Canadian Political Scandals

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

Excellent point, Juan. It's especially pertinent since Harper is pushing essentially the same agenda that has put Bush in so much financial trouble in the US.

WHAT?!?!

Bush has gone NUTS in the USA with massive military spending, tax cuts, and huge deficits.

You can't have guns AND butter.

Exactly WHERE do Harper's policies match that of the Bush administration in the area of national finance?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

Wanting a huge military and tax cuts, Colpy. Not to mention that he would have us in Iraq right beside Bush.

 

[#juan]

Come on Colpy, do some reading yourself.

You know that Harper would have had us in the Iraq invasion. How many body bags would we have seen by now? You know that whenever Harper unvails a little of his "platform" it involves increased spending and tax cuts and the cutting of social programs, just like his buddy Bush.

 

[#juan]

Sorry Rev

I didn't see your post. We probably agree on this one. :wink:

 

[MMMike]

There's a big difference between what leaders want to do and what they actually do. I don't doubt that Harper wanted the country to go to Iraq; I'm less convinced that he would have had us there if he was in power. Public opinion will blunt a lot of 'drastic' solutions - sometimes to our benefit, sometimes to our detriment!

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

Wanting a huge military and tax cuts, Colpy. Not to mention that he would have us in Iraq right beside Bush.

Ah, in 1968, before that idiot Trudeau got in, we had a military of over 120,000 on a population base of 20 million. That military was very well equiped and trained, considered to be one of the best in the world.

We also had no debt, and a balanced budget.

Now the miltary might go 65,000, on a population base of 35 million, and it is crying for equipment. Despite the fact our government is awash with money.

As for being in Iraq, you are right, I think we should have been involved. So did a lot of other Canadians, although it would be hard to get them to admit it now. Human nature, you know.

 

[Colpy]

Come on Colpy, do some reading yourself.

You know that Harper would have had us in the Iraq invasion. How many body bags would we have seen by now? You know that whenever Harper unvails a little of his "platform" it involves increased spending and tax cuts and the cutting of social programs, just like his buddy Bush.

Perhaps you could show me the spot in the Conservative platform where we call for cuts to social programs?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

That's what "small government" means, Colpy. The more you type, the more you support Harper, the scarier he seems. Thanks for that.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

As for being in Iraq, you are right, I think we should have been involved. So did a lot of other Canadians, although it would be hard to get them to admit it now. Human nature, you know

no way. We should NOT have been in Iraq and phew......thanks to Cretien we are NOT there.

what is this fascination with military ??? Would like to see Canada become a lot more active in international crisis response situations .......like natural disasters, and peace keeping missions. We do not want or need the war,military mentality that has crippled the US to the point that this is their entire focus and "image". The last fecking thing we need is a similar image or philosophy and Harper might just be the one to provide that. He is scary........and does not represent the majority of Canadian views. He is too radical ,bordering on extreme. ( ergo the bush similarities. )

 

[Reverend Blair]

what is this fascination with military ?

They watch too many Rambo movies, Occean.

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

That's what "small government" means, Colpy. The more you type, the more you support Harper, the scarier he seems. Thanks for that.

"Smaller government" means a lot of things.....

like quit handing out millions to every special interest group so you can garner a vote or two.

like quit spending $100 million a year on a completely useless gun registry.

like quit handing out millions, if not billions to big companies like Bombardier.

like lower (radically) the feds' advertising budget, used mostly to dispense pro-gov't propaganda.

I don't see ANY move to cut social programs.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

Except that they would cut native programs (your hero Flanagan would shut down the reserves completely), privatise health care, cut transfer payments to the provinces that pay for infrastructure, drop programs that regulate things like water quality, food safety, and pharmaceutical testing.

We've seen what "smaller government" means, Colpy. We saw people dying in New Orleans because of that same doctrine. We saw people die in Walkerton. We've seen pills pulled off the shelves too late.

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

Except that they would cut native programs (your hero Flanagan would shut down the reserves completely), privatise health care, cut transfer payments to the provinces that pay for infrastructure, drop programs that regulate things like water quality, food safety, and pharmaceutical testing.

We've seen what "smaller government" means, Colpy. We saw people dying in New Orleans because of that same doctrine. We saw people die in Walkerton. We've seen pills pulled off the shelves too late.

Interesting.

I suspect that were there to be a Katrina-like disaster in Canada, it would be much, much worse than the American one.

Let us hope we never find out.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

If we have no effective government agencies, we'll certainly do worse during a disaster. That shows up in every disaster around the world. Your doctrine of small government effectively reduces the effectiveness of government agencies, so it would make any disaster worse.

 

[Ten Packs]

How about "The Salmon Arm Salute", when Trudeau showed us what he REALLY thought of us all...?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Top Ten Canadian Poli

Was that a scandal or just confirmation of a well-known fact, Ten Packs?