Top Cop Says McCain is a Liar

[gopher]

``The problem is that with Kerry it well may have been truth.......at least partially.``


The Republican majority in Congress had ample opportunity to pursue the claims made by the Swift Boaters but found no evidence with which to begin any investigatory work. However, I blame Kerry and the Democratic party for their ready submission to those lies when they could easily have stood up to them.

Just a couple of months ago Kerry finally decided to say something about it all. By then it was too little, too late. He has no one to blame but himself.

As for McCain, it is a matter of record that he offered military info to the Viets. I have given you the proof and it is a matter of record.

 

[Colpy]

``The problem is that with Kerry it well may have been truth.......at least partially.``


The Republican majority in Congress had ample opportunity to pursue the claims made by the Swift Boaters but found no evidence with which to begin any investigatory work. However, I blame Kerry and the Democratic party for their ready submission to those lies when they could easily have stood up to them.

Just a couple of months ago Kerry finally decided to say something about it all. By then it was too little, too late. He has no one to blame but himself.

As for McCain, it is a matter of record that he offered military info to the Viets. I have given you the proof and it is a matter of record.

OH COME ON!

He offered military info after 4 days of torture, when he thought he was about to die. Then he didn't give it up, perhaps because of circumstance, perhaps not.

I'm no pansy, but I damned well know I'd have given it all up after 4 HOURS....if not sooner.

The man is a bona fide hero. Of that there is no doubt.

If he's squealed like a pig after 4 DAYS, I'd still have given him a medal.

As for Kerry, he did write up his own recommendation for at least one medal..........I'm not sure how kosher...or UN kosher that is.......but, as one who has never seen a shot fired in anger, I hesitate to critisize him....it appears he did some very heroic things.

 

[karrie]

Colpy, you hit the nail on the head. Anyone who wants to whine and cry that McCain was a song bird can first volunteer to have bamboo slivers shoved under their finger nails THEN sew whether or not caving to torture is within the realm of things they're justified in judging someone over.

 

[Colpy]

"Only a child thinks repeating a fantasy over and over can make it truth..."

Israel is a democracy

the economy is just fine

Saddam Hussein has stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction

Your "TRUTHS"

Colpy ITN George Bush....

Sure go on....repeat it again....

Mikey....repeat after me....Israel IS a democracy.....accept it or give some logical explanation, some shred of evidence, some argument, something, ANYTHING to show it is no.

SADDAM acted as if he had WMDs, and he had USED WMDs in the past.......Bush didn't lie, he was mistaken. BIG difference.

I'm in Canada. So far, so good......but it probably ain't gonna stay that way long.....

 

[gopher]

``OH COME ON!``

Soldiers have been hanged for saying less than he did.


As for Saddam and Bush's ''mistake'', see the Downing Street Memo that has been repeatedly posted on this forum

 

[lone wolf]

``OH COME ON!``

Soldiers have been hanged for saying less than he did.


As for Saddam and Bush's ''mistake'', see the Downing Street Memo that has been repeatedly posted on this forum

Did McCain's singing voice change the outcome of the Vietnam conflict? Does anyone know if it cost lives? Does anyone know, in fact, if what he sang wasn't a song called "disinformation"? Bullshytin' the hell out of 'em has spared many a smart prisoner a lot of pain.

Woof!

 

[MHz]

Is McCain on record for supporting/not supporting water-boarding?

Saddam did have some chemical WMD's, the US has the receipts. Course the expiry date had passed before they went in search of em.

 

[Colpy]

``OH COME ON!``

Soldiers have been hanged for saying less than he did.


As for Saddam and Bush's ''mistake'', see the Downing Street Memo that has been repeatedly posted on this forum

Not by the USA.

Not in this century.

Not after being tortured.

Give it a break, Gopher, you're WAY off base on this one.....you should really criticize his platform or his beliefs.....at least in that you would be credible.

 

[Kreskin]

Early it was mentioned that we must hold the Republicans to the same political standards, ie make it fair game to smear them with dirty tricks ala the Kerry character assassination. The problem I have is we're responsible for our own standards, not other people's. Lowering the standards to the level of Karl Rove is a shame, and it probably does more damage than good because most people understand what happened last campaign and see through the dirty tricks.

 

[gopher]

Not by the USA.

Not in this century.

Not after being tortured.

Give it a break, Gopher, you're WAY off base on this one.....you should really criticize his platform or his beliefs.....at least in that you would be credible.

Eddie Slovak was executed just for threatening desertion (his reason: he was afraid of battle). Others who actually deserted went unpunished.

As for McLame, he is entitled to his beliefs - the only thing I'd criticize is his desire for 100 years of war.

And when it comes to credibility, who are you to say I have none when you deny reality and say that Bush just made an honest mistake? That's about as lame as anyone can get.

 

[talloola]

Early it was mentioned that we must hold the Republicans to the same political standards, ie make it fair game to smear them with dirty tricks ala the Kerry character assassination. The problem I have is we're responsible for our own standards, not other people's. Lowering the standards to the level of Karl Rove is a shame, and it probably does more damage than good because most people understand what happened last campaign and see through the dirty tricks.

Yeah, it must be really confusing and sad for people who got caught up in the dirty lies,
during the campaign, and believed them, then after the dust settles, and they realize
the truth, it can't feel good. BUT on the other hand winning seems to be everything for
many people, and it doesn't matter how they get there, and they have no shame, hence
'bush' as president. I'd like to be a fly on the wall when Carl Rove and his friends have private chats, as they probably can't believe they actually managed to get George Bush elected twice, boy, their underhanded tactics really did work.

 

[darkbeaver]

Is John McCain a Liar?
One of the pressing questions for American voters as they look toward the formal nomination of McCain as the Republican presidential candidate is whether he is a phony who’s long been protected by his gilded reputation or whether he suffers from severe – or at least convenient – memory loss
By Robert Parry.
29/02/08 "MEO" -- -- In journalism, it’s a safe bet that if you write a story with the suggestion that a prominent male politician is bedding an attractive female lobbyist, whatever other point you hoped to make will be overlooked.
That appears to have been the case with the New York Times article on Feb. 21, which led with suspicions held by some McCain staffers that the Arizona senator had gotten too cozy with lobbyist Vicky Iseman. The Times story then veered off into a historical examination of McCain’s over-confidence about his own moral rectitude.
Yet, despite the Times’ best efforts to explore this complicated history of McCain as both ethics sinner and ethics reformer, the public and pundits never got much past the sex angle, an insinuation that McCain, 71, and Iseman, 40, both adamantly denied.
Thus, McCain succeeded in deflecting the story’s more significant question: Is McCain’s reputation as a straight-talking politician a sham?



McCain was known to his Viet Nam captors and his fellow prisoners as "songbird" (that was his documented codename) for obvious reasons. His claims of torture are spurious, as the son of a senior American adrimal and his co-operation with his captors he enjoyed privilaged conditions. None of this is news, but the MSM refuses to follow up on it.
Is he a liar?Yes.

 

[darkbeaver]

McCain USS Forrestal 1967, 21 planes destroyed 134 dead crewmembers

'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. 'Wet starting' was a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots.
McCain's a liar, he's not fit for public service of any kind.

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[missile]

Yes, he is a liar, but so what? All politicians are liars and we should not be expecting any kind of truth from any of them. On the WMDs: of course he had them at one time..the US supplied them to him.