Top 5 facts on US Military Oil Consumption
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The implication of that statement is that the US is using the fuel improperly or wasting it unneccessarily. Can you tell me how they are doing that?
You're wasting your time Eagle...most of these folks wouldn't care if we were delivering kittens and puppies to all the worlds lonely children.
But at any rate, there's nothing any of them can do about it, or would do about it even if they could. Except what they're doing. Crying on a canadian forum....
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Clearly there is anti-American voice here which outnumbers the few of us - and your argument while worthy is wasted because it increases the opportunity for more podium pontification - and believe me - nothing you write or believe or even prove will make a change on this forum.
The people here are good people - but they have a necessary belief the U.S. is wading quickly into some kind of hell, dragging the rest of the world - and in particular Canada - which somehow has been caught up in the identity crisis of proximity. Even the issue of migrating Mexicans to Canada has become the fault of the U.S. It would be a great comedy act if it weren't so tragic.
Nobody cares if there are 312 U.S. Military Bases around the world - not all fighting - but defending - which is also part of military work - patrolling, watching, listening, etc. These are situated in 177 countries, and comprise over a million service people who work in all different capacities - some without weaponry. So if fuel is used to perform many of the U.N. ordered, NATO, NORAD, and directed missions as well as aggression in some nations - it is how the work is done. That would be the decision of the U.S. military and not up for debate except within that nation. (Source: DOD).
My interest here is to try to keep the understanding between the two nations as comfortable as possible, but as each year passes in my journey I see it going in the opposite direction.
I don't know what I am saying, but please do not feel it is your responsibility to prove anything to the Canadian people - their minds (at least on this forum) are pretty much set in stone - as are those of people from other lands who have chosen to live as Canadians.
And as it is their playground - our choice is to stay and shut up - and read the flaming insults without response - or ... I don't know what....
I had hoped the topics would be safe ones - but there are always the few who continue to pick at the scab of argument... especially when there is no retaliation permitted.
Clearly there is anti-American voice here which outnumbers the few of us - and your argument while worthy is wasted because it increases the opportunity for more podium pontification - and believe me - nothing you write or believe or even prove will make a change on this forum.
The people here are good people - but they have a necessary belief the U.S. is wading quickly into some kind of hell, dragging the rest of the world - and in particular Canada - which somehow has been caught up in the identity crisis of proximity. Even the issue of migrating Mexicans to Canada has become the fault of the U.S. It would be a great comedy act if it weren't so tragic.
Nobody cares if there are 312 U.S. Military Bases around the world - not all fighting - but defending - which is also part of military work - patrolling, watching, listening, etc. These are situated in 177 countries, and comprise over a million service people who work in all different capacities - some without weaponry. So if fuel is used to perform many of the U.N. ordered, NATO, NORAD, and directed missions as well as aggression in some nations - it is how the work is done. That would be the decision of the U.S. military and not up for debate except within that nation. (Source: DOD).
My interest here is to try to keep the understanding between the two nations as comfortable as possible, but as each year passes in my journey I see it going in the opposite direction.
I don't know what I am saying, but please do not feel it is your responsibility to prove anything to the Canadian people - their minds (at least on this forum) are pretty much set in stone - as are those of people from other lands who have chosen to live as Canadians.
And as it is their playground - our choice is to stay and shut up - and read the flaming insults without response - or ... I don't know what....
I had hoped the topics would be safe ones - but there are always the few who continue to pick at the scab of argument... especially when there is no retaliation permitted.
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Can anyone think of any reason why the U.S. have to use that much energy just to rattle their sabres. The only wars going on are those the U.S. started like Iraq and the leftovers in Afghanistan, or maybe the next war they start in Iran. Who is the U.S. protecting all those people from with their million soldiers deployed around the world? The U.S. military is not a benevolent society by any stretch. I know this will be seen as an anti-American rant but so be it. Maybe the world would be a better place if the Americans just stopped meddling in the affairs of other countries.
Would serve the world right if they did, that's for sure. But then the US would be called all sorts of names because it "doesn't care" or "won't help".
Dude I really don't hate America. But sometimes other people, who are not American worry about the future of the planet. I think this is the point to the OP.
There was no intent or insinuation in my original post. The purpose was to show the gigantic amount of oil used by the U.S. Military. Whether or not it is the 'largest' army or not. I could care less. The point is that it uses a lot. More than anyone can easily comprehend. That's all it is. Information.
Actually, in the contributor's article, he states (and references...I had to check it for myself...from page 44 of the Rand report) that during Operation Desert Storm and Desert Shield, that Saudi Arabia and UAE supplied fuels free of charge.
Moreover, during ODS/S Saudi Arabia and the UAE supplied fuels without charge (1.5 billion gallons), whereas Bahrain, Egypt, Oman and Qatar charged for the fuels, adds the Rand report.
So in that war, you paid for some and the rest was gratis. It may still be happening but we don't know as yet. Freedom of information was approved for acquisition of his Rand report I believe.
But the basic idea is there, you bought it, you burned it. It's not my personal business but a lot of people become cranky about that and make reports and such. I could care less and simply made a post concerning an interesting blog-jack of an article.
'Nuff said by me.
Actually, in the contributor's article, he states (and references...I had to check it for myself...from page 44 of the Rand report) that during Operation Desert Storm and Desert Shield, that Saudi Arabia and UAE supplied fuels free of charge.
Moreover, during ODS/S Saudi Arabia and the UAE supplied fuels without charge (1.5 billion gallons), whereas Bahrain, Egypt, Oman and Qatar charged for the fuels, adds the Rand report.
So in that war, you paid for some and the rest was gratis. It may still be happening but we don't know as yet. Freedom of information was approved for acquisition of his Rand report I believe.
But the basic idea is there, you bought it, you burned it. It's not my personal business but a lot of people become cranky about that and make reports and such. I could care less and simply made a post concerning an interesting blog-jack of an article.
'Nuff said by me.