This mes the Conservatives' fault?

Colpy

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Well, I know it is a hard way to rule the country, but I've been saying the CPC should quit kissing Quebecois arse for a long time. This little event just might give Harper his majority outside Quebec, thanks to the Three Stooges.......whenever there happens to be an election.
 

Machjo

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Well, I know it is a hard way to rule the country, but I've been saying the CPC should quit kissing Quebecois arse for a long time. This little event just might give Harper his majority outside Quebec, thanks to the Three Stooges.......whenever there happens to be an election.

It might. But then what happens if the Quebecers interpret that as a sign of support for Harper's comments? Suddenly we'd have a Conservative majority in Ottawa and a PQ majority in Quebec City. Now how do you think a Harper majority would handle a sovereignty referendum with a 50% plus vote in favour? Call in the troops would be my guess judging from his character. Is this kind of escalation really necessary? In some ways, normalizing the Bloc could weaken the Bloc, ironically enough. It makes Quebecers think that maybe they were wrong about the West hating their guts.
 

Colpy

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It might. But then what happens if the Quebecers interpret that as a sign of support for Harper's comments? Suddenly we'd have a Conservative majority in Ottawa and a PQ majority in Quebec City. Now how do you think a Harper majority would handle a sovereignty referendum with a 50% plus vote in favour? Call in the troops would be my guess judging from his character. Is this kind of escalation really necessary? In some ways, normalizing the Bloc could weaken the Bloc, ironically enough. It makes Quebecers think that maybe they were wrong about the West hating their guts.

Thoughtful post.

But Quebec will always see the Conservatives as representatives of the west....in power or out.

I think constant, never-ending appeasement of Quebec not only encourages radical sovereignists, but also twists the gov't of Canada out of sync with the people of Canada.

For example, in the last 40 years, how many years have we been led by a PM from outside Quebec???????

Three.

Well over 90% of the time, our PM is a Quebecer. That is fine, but it does reflect the disproportional influence of Quebec and Quebec culture within this country.....time to balance it out a bit. Not just the west, the RoC wants in.

And appeasing Separatists! Just outrageous, IMHO, and I don't care who did it when.
 

lone wolf

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Well, I know it is a hard way to rule the country, but I've been saying the CPC should quit kissing Quebecois arse for a long time. This little event just might give Harper his majority outside Quebec, thanks to the Three Stooges.......whenever there happens to be an election.

It may very well feed a Conservative win ... but it won't be Harper at the helm....
 

damngrumpy

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Peception is everything, for example, if someone joins the folks on the other side of isle, you do not make them a cabinet minister immediately, splitting hairs? No,
to do so otherwise, is illegal. Attempting to form a coalition is the same as trying
to organize it the difference is the Tories were not trusted enough.
As for what is happening, its the fault of the Prime MInister and not necessarily the party therefore the party should force him to step down.
Under parliamentary democracy the coalition is acting within the context of the law. At a time like this it is unfortunate that we must go through a major crisis all because Harper attempted to use his position to do everything but deliver a state of the economy. Clearly there was no problem with the union, they have a tentative agreement with them, and the party subsidy is part of every civilized electoral system, including the United States.
I hope there is some resolution, but Harper can't be trusted now, so both Dion and Harper should go.
 

Kreskin

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It may be decades before we see another majority government. If that's the case will opposition parties make elections obsolete by having non confidence votes immediately after elections? To me this is a non confidence vote against the people, and it's cheap political garbage that undermines democracy.