This amazing Quran soora 42

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Soora 42

(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)​

1. Ha, Miem:
[These abbreviated Arabic letters mean:]
Wisdom, O Mohammed! [: W. M.]

[Then, after God – be glorified – described the Quran that it is wisdom, He started to describe His messenger, and said:]
2. Ayn Sien Qaf.
[These abbreviated Arabic letters mean:]
Mohammed is Arabian [: speaking your language], a Chief [: one of your chiefs], a Quraishite [: one of the Quraish tribesmen.]

[Afterwards, God – be glorified – started to address His messenger, and He said:]
3. Thus has God, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise, revealed [the message] to you [Mohammed], and [thus had He revealed] to those [messengers or apostles] before you.

4. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on the earth; He is the Most High, the Most Great.

5. The [gaseous] heavens over the [the earth and the other planets] are about to split up [because they attribute sons and daughters to God.]
The angels celebrate the praises of their Lord and ask [of God] forgiveness to those [believers] who are on the earth;
surely, God: He is the Most Forgiving, the Most Merciful [to believers.]


More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/42.htm#a42_1
quran-ayat.com/pret/42.htm#a42_1

And here is the recital of this great soora 42 in the book of the Quran:
[youtube]xnYGwYf8de0[/youtube]​
 

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The qurun is a book that inspires hate and violence.

Every Muslim country is a pure shitehole, built and lead by hate filled Muslims
 

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Soora 42

(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)



I would say that the name of your God is bigot as Allah discriminates without a just cause since. He seems to not believe that women are worth as much as a man.




Do you dare debate the immorality of your misogynous and homophobic ideology?


Like most believers, you will run for the hills.


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Islam and women. Yuk
Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands, if there is no water to purify them, following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).



Quran (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye. (To be fair, men are told to do the same thing in the prior verse).



Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual. There is some dispute as to whether it is referring to the practice of anal intercourse. If this is what Muhammad meant, then it would appear to contradict what he said in Muslim (8:3365).



Quran (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.



Quran (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.



Quran (4:24) and Quran (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage. Note that the verse distinguishes wives from captives (those whom they right hand possesses).



http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa...orth-less.aspx




Sahih Bukhari (62:81) - "The Prophet said: "'The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract).'" In other words, the most important thing a woman brings to marriage is between her legs.



Sahih Muslim (4:1039) - "A'isha said [to Muhammad]: 'You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'"These are the words of Muhammad's favorite wife, complaining of the role assigned to women under Islam.Ishaq 593 - "As for Ali, he said, 'Women are plentiful, and you can easily change one for another.'"Ali was raised as a son by Muhammad. He was also the 4th caliph. This comment was made in Muhammad's presence without a word of rebuke from him.



Ishaq 593 - "From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another." - Even in this world, Muhammad treated women like party favors, handing out enslaved women to his cronies for sex.Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."



Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"



Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.



Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." Muslim apologists offer creative explanations to explain why Allah felt that a man's testimony in court should be valued twice as highly as a woman's, but studies consistently show that women are actually less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they make more reliable witnesses.


Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"



This last is an outright lie.


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DL
 

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Why do you lie? Why do you insist on lies? In fact, you lie to yourself in the first place.

If you are a true seeker of the truth, you will ask about each aya one by one, and hear the answer ..

but you don't want to understand .. only to say any words whatever they are true or false.
 

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Why do you lie? Why do you insist on lies? In fact, you lie to yourself in the first place.

If you are a true seeker of the truth, you will ask about each aya one by one ..

but you don't want to understand .. only to say words whatever they are true or false.

Even Martin Luther seen and acknowledged that Islam is the religion of the Devil
 

French Patriot

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Why do you lie? Why do you insist on lies? In fact, you lie to yourself in the first place.

If you are a true seeker of the truth, you will ask about each aya one by one, and hear the answer ..

but you don't want to understand .. only to say any words whatever they are true or false.


Where did I lie?


As to reading all of your garbage Qur'an, all I need do is look at the lack of equality and intolerance of Islam to know that it is the worst of the ideologies and theologies out there.


So tell us without your putrid book why you deny women and gays equality.


Or are you too brain dead to speak without quoting inferior men who claim to speak for your supernatural and thus imaginary God?


Regards
DL
 

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If I say: you lie, you will deny and insist.

Therefore tell your objections one by one, and by God's will, I will answer you point by point.

But don't give multiple points, because then you will confuse others and confound the truth.
 
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If I say: you lie, you will deny and insist.

Therefore tell your objections one by one, and by God's will, I will answer you point by point.

But don't give multiple points, because then you will confuse others and confound the truth.
Bored with your goat today ?
 

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Even Martin Luther seen and acknowledged that Islam is the religion of the Devil

So if Martin Luther or anyone else says whatever he says, will you believe him dogmatically and blindly!?

If he is not Muslim, he is misguided.. and will lose in his Afterlife if he is not a Muslim believing in God as One and that one should have done righteous work.
and even if he is good before people, he is not before God .. had he been good, God would have guided him.

That is if he truly has said such words...
 

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So if Martin Luther or anyone else says whatever he says, will you believe him dogmatically and blindly!?

If he is not Muslim, he is misguided.. and will lose in his Afterlife if he is not a Muslim believing in God as One and that one should have done righteous work.
and even if he is good before people, he is not before God .. had he been good, God would have guided him.

That is if he truly has said such words...

Says the guy who blindly follows a fictitious entity.
 

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It is not factitious as you claim and insist. It is the truth which you deny, and so you will lose if keep to such stance.
 

French Patriot

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If I say: you lie, you will deny and insist.

Therefore tell your objections one by one, and by God's will, I will answer you point by point.

But don't give multiple points, because then you will confuse others and confound the truth.



As you can see above, you did accuse me of lying and I asked for clarification and did not deny anything.


Thanks for showing your dishonesty again.


I think this is what cause your false accusation.


Quran (2:22:cool: - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

This last is an outright lie.



If not, where is the lie you accused me of?


Regards
DL
 

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French Patriot did not reply to my post #7 since about 3/4 of an hour.

You lie. Should have got an education instead of indoctrination into the culture of evil goat fukkers.

I want to expose you before people: that you only revile and say assertions and help each other, you Wicked Zionists.

You are so far from the truth and righteousness, and very near from the hypocrisy and lying to your conscience and to people in general.
 

French Patriot

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So if Martin Luther or anyone else says whatever he says, will you believe him dogmatically and blindly!?

If he is not Muslim, he is misguided.. and will lose in his Afterlife if he is not a Muslim believing in God as One and that one should have done righteous work.
and even if he is good before people, he is not before God .. had he been good, God would have guided him.

That is if he truly has said such words...



God did guide him. To Gnostic Christian thinking.


//www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qnsTr7I04


BTW, you should expand your knowledge base on Martin Luther. He hated Catholics and Jews more than Muslims.


Regards
DL

French Patriot did not reply to my post #7 since about 3/4 of an hour.


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Look again at the sequence. I do not feel obliged to follow a timetable though.


Regards
DL
 

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Quran (2:22 "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

I will pass over your vain words, and stick to reply to this objection to the aya of the Quran 2: 228

You should read the whole aya, and do not cut part of the aya out of its contest .. see what marvelous this aya is

Quran 2: 228, which means:
(Divorced women shall wait [in home, before marrying another man] for three [menstrual] periods b.

It is not lawful for them to conceal what [fetus] God has created in their wombs
c, if [truly] they believe in God and the Last Day d.

And their husbands have the right better [than others] to restore them in such case
e, if the [husbands] likes to set things properly f.

And [wives] have rights [over their husbands] similar to those [of their husbands] over them, with appropriate way
g; but the men have an authority [to be obeyed] over them h.

God is All-Mighty i, Most Wise j.)
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228 h i.e. the wife should obey her husband, so that she does not go out of the house unless he allows her to do so, and she should obey him and comply to his orders excepting that which God forbids;
but in case she disobeys his orders, then she is a Nashiz (i.e. haughty disobedient.)

More explanation of this great aya is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_228
quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_228

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N.B. the best revelations and instructions by God are in the glorious Quran, so anyone dislikes God's instructions, he is one of the devil's party, and will lose in the Next Life ..

that is anyone opposes God's orders in the Quran is unfortunate and will miss God's mercy in the Afterlife.

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Time here is 1 am; so I leave, and if you want to stick to the point by point discussion, we will return to it later on.
 

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French Patriot did not reply to my post #7 since about 3/4 of an hour.



I want to expose you before people: that you only revile and say assertions and help each other, you Wicked Zionists.

You are so far from the truth and righteousness, and very near from the hypocrisy and lying to your conscience and to people in general.

Better to be a zionists than a goat fukker.
 

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Better to be a zionists than a goat fukker.


So you actually have first hand knowledge of this situation. How was it that you became disappointed with the goats ?


I don,t think there,s much to chose from between the two envisioned positions.
 

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I will pass over your vain words, and stick to reply to this objection to the aya of the Quran 2: 228

You should read the whole aya, and do not cut part of the aya out of its contest .. see what marvelous this aya is

Quran 2: 228, which means:
(Divorced women shall wait [in home, before marrying another man] for three [menstrual] periods b.

It is not lawful for them to conceal what [fetus] God has created in their wombs
c, if [truly] they believe in God and the Last Day d.

And their husbands have the right better [than others] to restore them in such case
e, if the [husbands] likes to set things properly f.

And [wives] have rights [over their husbands] similar to those [of their husbands] over them, with appropriate way
g; but the men have an authority [to be obeyed] over them h.

God is All-Mighty i, Most Wise j.)
.......................................................................

228 h i.e. the wife should obey her husband, so that she does not go out of the house unless he allows her to do so, and she should obey him and comply to his orders excepting that which God forbids;
but in case she disobeys his orders, then she is a Nashiz (i.e. haughty disobedient.)

More explanation of this great aya is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_228
quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_228

============================================================

N.B. the best revelations and instructions by God are in the glorious Quran, so anyone dislikes God's instructions, he is one of the devil's party, and will lose in the Next Life ..

that is anyone opposes God's orders in the Quran is unfortunate and will miss God's mercy in the Afterlife.

=========================================================

Time here is 1 am; so I leave, and if you want to stick to the point by point discussion, we will return to it later on.


You did not deal with Quran (2:22 "and the men are a degree above them [women]" and just ignored it because you could not provide a decent apologetics for it.


Thanks for showing all here your hypocrisy.


You do my work of discrediting your religion for me.


Keep up the good hypocritical work.


Regards
DL
 
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15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. 18 A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will know them by their fruits. - Christ on False Prophets - Matt:7 15-20.
 
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