Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
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Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
TheGuy, you are a guy who was given a privilege, never afforded to anyone else: A thread devoted ONLY to your feelings, emotions and idiosynchrasies.
Why can't you be happy with that? Be a good fellow and move this OP (or if you don't know how, ask Andem to to do it for you), to the thread that was designed just for you.
I promise I will not waste any time with you.
TheGuy, you are a guy who was given a privilege, never afforded to anyone else: A thread devoted ONLY to your feelings, emotions and idiosynchrasies.
Why can't you be happy with that? Be a good fellow and move this OP (or if you don't know how, ask Andem to to do it for you), to the thread that was designed just for you.
I promise I will not waste any time with you.
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
You can meet a stranger and have no idea how they will react to various stimuli, but as you get to know them you learn how to influence them in order to get a particular reaction.. but you also learn that they will do as they please and not necessarily as you predict or would like.. But if they where particularly rational and logical and consistent, you would begin to trust them, and be able to obtain the particular reaction you sought if you knew them well, but still they may not react the way you expected..
So your relationship with TRUTH is exactly like this.. But you do not know what TRUTH is..
You do not need to know what something is or what causes it, in order to experience it and influence it and be influenced by it.
It is a phenomenon.. not a thing....
Just as with everything you experience, you experience it in relation to yourself, and it is what it is... and what it is, is all that it can be..
I am an asshole..
I am a nice guy..
I am stupid..
I am a genius...
I am a machine..
I am a human being..
I am all that I can be...
I am “a will”
I am empowered..
I am free..
I am all that I can be..
What one might identify as:
IT is what is responsible for: 'consequence in and of itself' ...whatever IT may be..
Our relationship with IT, is virtually identical to our relationship with others..
It reacts to our influence in a particular way, just as the will of others react in a particular way, it is simply more consistent and reliable then what we are used to in our relationships with other “wills”
But just like other “wills”, you can get to know IT, just as science does..
IT is different from other “wills” in that everyone has a relationship with IT..
It is also different in that we cannot seem to personally identify IT as an individual physical person..
So we identify it as “the cosmos”
But, “the cosmos” , is just an “interpenetration” of “IT”..
It is our way of relating to “IT”
But our assumption that “IT” is nothing more then “the cosmos” lead us to many erroneous assumptions about the nature of things.
Things are not only what they appear to be, they are all that they appear to be.. But we do not always recognize or realize all the different things, that things can be..
Things are made of relationships of other things, and ultimately the things themselves do not even seem to exist at all..
Things are understood to be what they are, in relation to you..
Since "IT" is so clearly relevant to our existence, “IT” seems worthy of an appropriate NAME..
“Cosmos” seems rather inappropriate seeing that “cosmos” is merely a theory of “It’s” nature..
But the very assumption of a thing even having “a specific and particular nature” is flawed in itself as as that “fundamentalist religious ideology” merely evolved from “the theory of “IT” being “The Cosmos” in the first place..
For one to OBSERVE and THINK for themselves, does not require or necessitate acting in any particular way, just to THINK without making assumptions, and without fear of the TRUTH that they might discover..
Scientific observations are not the same as philosophical observations.
What do you KNOW within your own experience of existence..
Scientific observations are a way of understanding relationships.. they are analogies of reality..
The physical universe is our way of comprehending TRUTH..
But the TRUTH is that you experience reality in a way that is analogous to the way you experience others..
You influence others and they react as is dictated by the TRUTH/LIES in their minds..
In the same way you influence the reality that you experience and it reacts as is dictated by the TRUTH itself..
In the same that we learn about others personalities and how they will react to our influences, Science and individuals learn about the TRUTH itself..
You influence others and they react as is dictated by the TRUTH/LIES in their minds..
Let us consider a relationship between two wills....
You do not know precisely how they will react to your influence, however you can estimate what their reactions will be, as you get to know them better..
Ultimately they are not bound to act the way that you expect, they can change their minds and thus they may react in a way that you did not predict..
However if they are particularly reliable and self-disciplined and principled, you can learn to trust them and rely on them.. Although you may not like them..
One can trust their enemy will hurt them, just as one can trust their friend to help them..
If they are absolutely self-disciplined and principled, and all powerful, you can TRUST them absolutely, although you may not KNOW them very well..And they may not be your friend.. And you may not like them..
So let us consider an individual whom everyone knows, although everyone does not know each other, they each know the ONE..
Groups on individuals that know each other might discuss amongst themselves their various experiences with the ONE, and begin to mutually understand the principles held by the ONE, and thereby get to know Him better..
You assume that others have intentions and are alive and think, but you KNOW that they react to your influences according to a SET of TRUTHS that you did not choose.. .
I can look at a FIRE without knowing what it is, or where it came from, or what caused it..
You might see it as well, and you may not know anymore then I..
But STILL, we both experience it..........and whatever it is.......It is what it is.. and neither of us can reasonably deny that FACT, although we might TRY..
Some might assume to KNOW everything their is KNOW and burn their hands in the process.. While others stand back and see what happens..
I care NOT about any religious TEXT, and prefer to avoid any religious dogma, I am not affiliated with any organization..
I simply OBSERVE and THINK for myself.. without prejudice.(without Ad Hominem).
Simply because one can take on a different perspective, does not cast doubt of the observable FACTS of LIFE..
You can meet a stranger and have no idea how they will react to various stimuli, but as you get to know them you learn how to influence them in order to get a particular reaction.. but you also learn that they will do as they please and not necessarily as you predict or would like.. But if they where particularly rational and logical and consistent, you would begin to trust them, and be able to obtain the particular reaction you sought if you knew them well, but still they may not react the way you expected..
So your relationship with TRUTH is exactly like this.. But you do not know what TRUTH is..
You do not need to know what something is or what causes it, in order to experience it and influence it and be influenced by it.
It is a phenomenon.. not a thing....
Just as with everything you experience, you experience it in relation to yourself, and it is what it is... and what it is, is all that it can be..
I am an asshole..
I am a nice guy..
I am stupid..
I am a genius...
I am a machine..
I am a human being..
I am all that I can be...
I am “a will”
I am empowered..
I am free..
I am all that I can be..
What one might identify as:
IT is what is responsible for: 'consequence in and of itself' ...whatever IT may be..
Our relationship with IT, is virtually identical to our relationship with others..
It reacts to our influence in a particular way, just as the will of others react in a particular way, it is simply more consistent and reliable then what we are used to in our relationships with other “wills”
But just like other “wills”, you can get to know IT, just as science does..
IT is different from other “wills” in that everyone has a relationship with IT..
It is also different in that we cannot seem to personally identify IT as an individual physical person..
So we identify it as “the cosmos”
But, “the cosmos” , is just an “interpenetration” of “IT”..
It is our way of relating to “IT”
But our assumption that “IT” is nothing more then “the cosmos” lead us to many erroneous assumptions about the nature of things.
Things are not only what they appear to be, they are all that they appear to be.. But we do not always recognize or realize all the different things, that things can be..
Things are made of relationships of other things, and ultimately the things themselves do not even seem to exist at all..
Things are understood to be what they are, in relation to you..
Since "IT" is so clearly relevant to our existence, “IT” seems worthy of an appropriate NAME..
“Cosmos” seems rather inappropriate seeing that “cosmos” is merely a theory of “It’s” nature..
But the very assumption of a thing even having “a specific and particular nature” is flawed in itself as as that “fundamentalist religious ideology” merely evolved from “the theory of “IT” being “The Cosmos” in the first place..
For one to OBSERVE and THINK for themselves, does not require or necessitate acting in any particular way, just to THINK without making assumptions, and without fear of the TRUTH that they might discover..
Scientific observations are not the same as philosophical observations.
What do you KNOW within your own experience of existence..
Scientific observations are a way of understanding relationships.. they are analogies of reality..
The physical universe is our way of comprehending TRUTH..
But the TRUTH is that you experience reality in a way that is analogous to the way you experience others..
You influence others and they react as is dictated by the TRUTH/LIES in their minds..
In the same way you influence the reality that you experience and it reacts as is dictated by the TRUTH itself..
In the same that we learn about others personalities and how they will react to our influences, Science and individuals learn about the TRUTH itself..
You influence others and they react as is dictated by the TRUTH/LIES in their minds..
Let us consider a relationship between two wills....
You do not know precisely how they will react to your influence, however you can estimate what their reactions will be, as you get to know them better..
Ultimately they are not bound to act the way that you expect, they can change their minds and thus they may react in a way that you did not predict..
However if they are particularly reliable and self-disciplined and principled, you can learn to trust them and rely on them.. Although you may not like them..
One can trust their enemy will hurt them, just as one can trust their friend to help them..
If they are absolutely self-disciplined and principled, and all powerful, you can TRUST them absolutely, although you may not KNOW them very well..And they may not be your friend.. And you may not like them..
So let us consider an individual whom everyone knows, although everyone does not know each other, they each know the ONE..
Groups on individuals that know each other might discuss amongst themselves their various experiences with the ONE, and begin to mutually understand the principles held by the ONE, and thereby get to know Him better..
You assume that others have intentions and are alive and think, but you KNOW that they react to your influences according to a SET of TRUTHS that you did not choose.. .
I can look at a FIRE without knowing what it is, or where it came from, or what caused it..
You might see it as well, and you may not know anymore then I..
But STILL, we both experience it..........and whatever it is.......It is what it is.. and neither of us can reasonably deny that FACT, although we might TRY..
Some might assume to KNOW everything their is KNOW and burn their hands in the process.. While others stand back and see what happens..
I care NOT about any religious TEXT, and prefer to avoid any religious dogma, I am not affiliated with any organization..
I simply OBSERVE and THINK for myself.. without prejudice.(without Ad Hominem).
Simply because one can take on a different perspective, does not cast doubt of the observable FACTS of LIFE..
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
I think
I think there is
Therefore there is
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A thread devoted to all of your stuff.
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I think there is
Therefore there is
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A thread devoted to all of your stuff.
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
You misspelled sh!t.
Ya, he lives down the way.
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
From your perspective it is not I that thinks and feels and acts...it is YOU that thinks and feels and acts...
I do not claim to know any more than you can observe for yourself..
I know what you know..
I see what you see..
I don't know what you don't know.. however you may assume to KNOW what in fact, you ONLY assume..
From your perspective it is not I that thinks and feels and acts...it is YOU that thinks and feels and acts...
I do not claim to know any more than you can observe for yourself..
I know what you know..
I see what you see..
I don't know what you don't know.. however you may assume to KNOW what in fact, you ONLY assume..
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
Is there any thinking going on here..
Or just a bunch of yahoo's who belive that they can just pretend whatever they like, and that is what decides the FACT of LIFE...
It is NOT me and not you that decides the FACTS of LIFE..
You can only observe and learn and distinguish what IS, you do not get to choose the FACT of LIFE..
Honestly, are EVERY SINGLE ONE of you really this pathetic?
Is there one thinking person amoung you?
Is there any thinking going on here..
Or just a bunch of yahoo's who belive that they can just pretend whatever they like, and that is what decides the FACT of LIFE...
It is NOT me and not you that decides the FACTS of LIFE..
You can only observe and learn and distinguish what IS, you do not get to choose the FACT of LIFE..
Honestly, are EVERY SINGLE ONE of you really this pathetic?
Is there one thinking person amoung you?
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
Because I like pulling the wings off flies.
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
I get no attention, I get harrassed, and insulted..
I get no attention, I get harrassed, and insulted..
Re: The only thing I claim to know is what we all know..
All I have to do, is look at your response to Ten Penny, to fully understand why you're here.
Half dozen of one, 6 of the other.
All I have to do, is look at your response to Ten Penny, to fully understand why you're here.