"The west wants out": Separatist sentiments growing in Alberta

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I would not worry about it. Wexit will collapse soon enough. Their leader is a failed ex-cop, with no answers to problems of Western alienation. He will be exposed, and replaced by a party that is more in touch with Canadians, and certainly more moderate.


The last election generated results that were "in touch with Canadians"... The kicker is that the election was over once the ballots East of the Manitoba/Ontario border were counted.


Regrettably, there was no opportunity to "be in touch" with those Canadians West of that line


The answer is contained in the question.

Kinda like the Confedruts who claim to be good Americans. Or every person in history who ever said "I'm not a racist, but. . ."


History is written by the victors.


I would wager that there are those that feel very differently
 

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Agreed on all points, however, in terms of the popular and generally accepted version of events (especially prior to internet distribution capabilities), by in large there is far less acceptance or open-mindedness to the alternative histories.


Just an observation
 

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Agreed on all points, however, in terms of the popular and generally accepted version of events (especially prior to internet distribution capabilities), by in large there is far less acceptance or open-mindedness to the alternative histories.
Just an observation
There are no permanent histories, and there are no permanent victors. I'm sure (because we actually HAVE the histories written at the time) that the Greeks and Romans wrote histories about how frickin' awesome they were. Later histories were somewhat less complimentary.

The problem comes from thinking of "history" as facts, like the hard sciences. There simply is no one "history." There are stories whose popularity waxes and wanes over time and varies by place.

The very first thing one needs to do to have any sort of debate that amounts to more than yelling past each other is come to some agreement on the accuracy and relevance of the facts.
 

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I would not worry about it. Wexit will collapse soon enough. Their leader is a failed ex-cop, with no answers to problems of Western alienation. He will be exposed, and replaced by a party that is more in touch with Canadians, and certainly more moderate.
Who knows who the leader will be ? Who knows who their candidates will be ? It will be interesting .
 

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If Wexit continues with the same leadership, they may receive 1% of the vote in Western Canada. The PPC was better organized, and they received less than 2% of the popular vote.

The people that think Wexit is a serious threat come election time, have obviously never been to their rallies, or researched the leadership.
There leadership has not yet evolved . If the population is in favour they will organize properly soon enough .
 

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I would not worry about it. Wexit will collapse soon enough. Their leader is a failed ex-cop, with no answers to problems of Western alienation. He will be exposed, and replaced by a party that is more in touch with Canadians, and certainly more moderate.
So far it is just a protest movement. But it should make the eastern establishment sit up and take notice.
 

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Do you have the answers to the dilemmas of Western Canada?
We'll see come the next Fed election
I do.
Developed our resource industries. Ship to whoever pays the most. Current laws essentially prevent the construction of refineries, steel mills or much of anything else inBC. Fix that little problem and the West will thrive and continue carrying Ontariowe and Quebec.
 

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Have you tried girding your loins, spitting on your hands, and getting stuck in?


No need really.. The Fed gvt and tater tot have done all of the heavy lifting already


If Wexit continues with the same leadership, they may receive 1% of the vote in Western Canada. The PPC was better organized, and they received less than 2% of the popular vote.

The people that think Wexit is a serious threat come election time, have obviously never been to their rallies, or researched the leadership.


The province going blue should be an indicator for you.


I do.
Developed our resource industries. Ship to whoever pays the most. Current laws essentially prevent the construction of refineries, steel mills or much of anything else inBC. Fix that little problem and the West will thrive and continue carrying Ontariowe and Quebec.


Absolutely correct.


The problem is that the Fed gvt has essentially vowed to ensure that this won't happen.


That said, the solution set falls squarely on the shoulders of the individual jurisdiction(s) in considering what steps they can take independently to develop their economies and while AB/SK are sandwiched inside Canada, another viable option is to take steps to stop sending money East and use those dollars for the benefit of their respective populations
 

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Wexit is composed of a bunch of shady characters that have no real answers for the dilemmas of Western Canadians. They do not pose a significant threat, and will likely die out soon enough.
If nothing else they will get the protest vote, much like Reform did in the early years. At that time there was no real difference between the conservative party and the liberal party. Both were totally interested in Toronto and Quebec.