Where did I say that? I don't think Canada should be held responsible for genocide. I do not think Canada is committing genocide.
Should I?
The Victorian Holocaust: how come no one knows about it?
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Where did I say that? I don't think Canada should be held responsible for genocide. I do not think Canada is committing genocide.
Should I?
Genocides are only brought up when either the perpetrator or the victim (or both) are in positions of power. How much power they have determines how much we hear about the genocides.
Ie.) You hear a little bit about the British actions during the Mau-Mau Uprising, and alot about settlers attacking North American natives.
You hear nothing about the Masaai campaign against the Kikuyu (the same people later in the Mau-Mau Uprising) when they settled the region in the fifteenth to seventeenth century because the Masaai are not that powerful.
Likewise you hear nothing about the Mohegan campaign of genocide against the Pequot until in its closing days the Mohegan hired white settlers as mercanaries for the final destruction of the Pequot empire.
Why? Lack of current power.
Ie.) You hear a little bit about the British actions during the Mau-Mau Uprising, and alot about settlers attacking North American natives.
You hear nothing about the Masaai campaign against the Kikuyu (the same people later in the Mau-Mau Uprising) when they settled the region in the fifteenth to seventeenth century because the Masaai are not that powerful.
Likewise you hear nothing about the Mohegan campaign of genocide against the Pequot until in its closing days the Mohegan hired white settlers as mercanaries for the final destruction of the Pequot empire.
Why? Lack of current power.
I think you just proved my point. Question anything about Israel and you're labeled an anti-semite, or worse, a racist. It's just so, well, easy to 'win' a debate that way!
And yes, this thread is about genocide.. not the country of which your profile flag represents.
Sorry, who made a blank confession? Hypocritical in the same post. Class!
No Smack you should do what your conscience tells you. I am Canadian, my government supports Isreali punishment and genocide conducted against the Palestinians all these decades as the official policy of Canada even when it meant refuting the results of democracy by ignoring the legally elected Hamas. Therefore I as a Canadian must admit my own responsibility in the crime, even though it was foisted upon me by a government I did not vote for or elect. In doing that I must accept responsibility for genocide that I am in part abetting because I do not know how to change that reality. In that manner I am fully and undeniably just as guilty as the Americans and the British who I have condemned as war criminals. None of us can escape that guilt and claim to be full citizens of those nations. In part it is just as I have said, and that is a measure of the difficulty in speaking and acting to change what will destroy everyone of us if we do nothing and wait for extinction when we could have acted and changed the future. It befuddles us all and we set about flogging each other with relish in the mistaken belief that it is enough, when all it does is makes feel good for a few minutes and then we go for hamburgers and forget with a full belly untill tomorrow when we'll repeat the whole mistake again verbatim.
Holocausts are common enough to be classed as normal human behaviour. Most of the civilizations we know have existed in the last 5000 years or so went down in some kind of holocaust at the hands of invading neighbours. I posted this over in the WB thread about why The Holocaust must be questioned, and it seems worth repeating here. Consider a partial record of just the 20th century alone:
1901-1919, 1 million Armenians as part of ethnic cleansing by Ottoman Turks
1950-1974, 30 million Chinese by Chinese communists
1925-1940, 25 million citizens of the former Soviet Union by Stalin's minions
1940-1945, 20 million citizens and soldiers of the former Soviet Union by Nazis
1941-1945, 5 million Germans as a result of WW2
1939-1945, 6 million Jews by Nazis across most of Europe.
1939-1945, 6 million other ‘undesirables’ (gays, resisters, catholics, gypsies, the infirm, etc.) by Nazis
1952-1960, .5 million Hindus and Moslems by each other during separation of India and Pakistan
1968-1976, 2 million Cambodians by communists (i.e. by each other)
1969-1984, 2 million Ugandans in a series of tribal wars (i.e. by each other)
1960-1996, 2 million Hutu and Tutsi tribe members in tribal warfare (i.e. by each other)
1989-present 1.5 million Sudanese Christians and animists by northern Muslims, who also trade in slaves
And there’s more. I don’t know what the body count is in Kosovo, Northern Ireland, East Timor, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan, the ongoing Arab-Israeli conflict, Mauretania, and a thousand other places where people slaughter each other over minor political and religious differences or useless bits of territory. A shocking and distressing record of human folly. History's full of such tales.
1901-1919, 1 million Armenians as part of ethnic cleansing by Ottoman Turks
1950-1974, 30 million Chinese by Chinese communists
1925-1940, 25 million citizens of the former Soviet Union by Stalin's minions
1940-1945, 20 million citizens and soldiers of the former Soviet Union by Nazis
1941-1945, 5 million Germans as a result of WW2
1939-1945, 6 million Jews by Nazis across most of Europe.
1939-1945, 6 million other ‘undesirables’ (gays, resisters, catholics, gypsies, the infirm, etc.) by Nazis
1952-1960, .5 million Hindus and Moslems by each other during separation of India and Pakistan
1968-1976, 2 million Cambodians by communists (i.e. by each other)
1969-1984, 2 million Ugandans in a series of tribal wars (i.e. by each other)
1960-1996, 2 million Hutu and Tutsi tribe members in tribal warfare (i.e. by each other)
1989-present 1.5 million Sudanese Christians and animists by northern Muslims, who also trade in slaves
And there’s more. I don’t know what the body count is in Kosovo, Northern Ireland, East Timor, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan, the ongoing Arab-Israeli conflict, Mauretania, and a thousand other places where people slaughter each other over minor political and religious differences or useless bits of territory. A shocking and distressing record of human folly. History's full of such tales.
Dexter, "Holocausts are common enough to be classed as normal human behaviour."
Fortunately, you go on to say that human behaviour is shocking and distressing.
I'd go further to say that this behaviour is not normal in Canada, and never has been, and never will be.
Fortunately, you go on to say that human behaviour is shocking and distressing.
I'd go further to say that this behaviour is not normal in Canada, and never has been, and never will be.
Dark Beaver, "In part it is just as I have said, and that is a measure of the difficulty in speaking and acting to change what will destroy everyone of us if we do nothing and wait for extinction..."
We are on the path to extinction now. Dark Beaver, if we all whine at once, will we be saved from ourselves?
We are on the path to extinction now. Dark Beaver, if we all whine at once, will we be saved from ourselves?
Some aboriginal people might disagree with that. Canada at least didn't make a deliberate attempt to exterminate them, but cultural destruction and assimilation were certainly on the agenda until fairly recently. Canada's hands aren't clean either, it's only a difference of degree, not kind.
Andem, sorry to disappoint you. Yasser Arafat may be one of your heros, mine are different. Hamas may look like good government to you, but my idea is different. Israel may look bad to you, but in relative terms, it looks like Heaven under siege to me.
You cannot escape racism and persecute the Jews at the same time. They are fighting for survival, not empire or genocidal racism. They are generally law-abiding and court the approval of the whole free world.
The fact that I see thier enemies as relative savages is due to the high civilization of the Israelis. It is behaviour-based, not religious or racist.
You cannot escape racism and persecute the Jews at the same time. They are fighting for survival, not empire or genocidal racism. They are generally law-abiding and court the approval of the whole free world.
The fact that I see thier enemies as relative savages is due to the high civilization of the Israelis. It is behaviour-based, not religious or racist.
Andem didn't even mention Arafat but you bring it up as a strawman with no basis in fact. Who were your heroes? The perpetrators of Deir Yassin or other massacres by the Israelis? Israel has no high ground here. Why is it not possible to criticize Israel without it being called persecution. The land of "milk and honey" was built on the blood of Palestinian/Arab families who had lived in the area for twelve hundred years or more. That is not persecution. It is fact.
Dexter, "Canada's hands aren't clean either, it's only a difference of degree, not kind."
Genocide vs murder may be only a matter of degree, but the terms are not synonimous.
No-one's hands are clean. Neither am I washing.
Genocide vs murder may be only a matter of degree, but the terms are not synonimous.
No-one's hands are clean. Neither am I washing.
Well we got the residential schools, we got the dubious honour of inventing the concentration camp (to kill the wives and Children of Boer soldiers to force them to surrender).
So, ya..it happens here too.
Queen Victoria killed more people than Hitler did. Yet, she has been honored historically by calling that period of time the ''Victorian era''. Imagine what would happen if people attempted to glorify the Holocaust by calling it the Hitlerian period!
he 4.7 million Iraqi refugees who fled for their lives, uprooted from their homes by the disproportionate force used by the occupation and campaigns of ethnic cleansing carried out by militias affiliated to its sectarian governments, are living testimony to the inhuman -- and anti- human rights -- American invasion and occupation of Iraq. At least 1.5 million Iraqis have been brutally murdered, thousands disappeared or detained, hundreds of thousands widowed. The modern Iraqi educated middle class, vital now and in the future to run the state, the economy, and build Iraqi culture, has been decimated. Following systematic assassinations, imprisonment, military raids and sieges, threats and discrimination, most of what remained of that class left the country. The absence of this middle class has resulted in the breakdown of all public services for the entirety of Iraqi society. No propaganda can call the occupation a success while so many people are suffering its consequences. Of the 4.7 million displaced, four fifths are women and children. All have inadequate or non- existent access to security, food, shelter, education, sanitation, health, and basic necessities such as water and electricity. In addition to the brain drain that Iraq suffered since the start of the occupation, whether through systematic killings or displacement, refugee children are currently losing their universal right to education in being unable to attend schools. It is an individual tragedy for refugees and a disaster for the future of Iraq. UNHCR is dramatically under-financed to meet the needs of these millions displaced. It has made repeated pleas for enhanced international donations to support its basic functioning and the fulfilment of its humanitarian mission.
THE OBLIGATION TO ACT: The UN Security Council, as the highest UN body, has the political, legal and moral duty and authority to act to protect the millions of displaced Iraqis. Following 13 years of disastrous UN-imposed sanctions that according to two former UN assistant secretary-generals satisfied the definition of genocide under international law, the UN Security Council failed to act to protect the state and people of Iraq, or condemn and censure those responsible for launching an illegal war of aggression against a member state of the United Nations. Its silence on the horrendous human and material cost paid by Iraqis since the illegal 2003 US invasion is not only shameful but also criminal.
A UNSC resolution on Iraqi refugees would end the complicity of the UN in this crime, expose the occupation's illegality and hypocrisy, as well as the barbaric and inhuman nature of the policies the US has been pursuing in Iraq since its illegal invasion in 2003. If we are to re- establish a peaceful international order, US imperialism must be constrained. It promotes sectarianism everywhere. It then uses the plight of those made refugees by sectarian violence as a political tool to blackmail and destabilise both countries of origin and hosting countries. Finally, it uses refugees as a justification for "humanitarian" intervention, regardless of state sovereignty, while obscuring the massive humanitarian crises it generates by its own sectarian policies.http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7790
Iraq with 1.5 million murdered and 4.7 million internally and externally displaced. This is genocide, this is holocaust happening today, these people are continuing to die every day.And we see and hear nothing from our CBC It's like it does not exist. who controls our media, who prevents this from being communicated to the citizens of this country and why.?
THE OBLIGATION TO ACT: The UN Security Council, as the highest UN body, has the political, legal and moral duty and authority to act to protect the millions of displaced Iraqis. Following 13 years of disastrous UN-imposed sanctions that according to two former UN assistant secretary-generals satisfied the definition of genocide under international law, the UN Security Council failed to act to protect the state and people of Iraq, or condemn and censure those responsible for launching an illegal war of aggression against a member state of the United Nations. Its silence on the horrendous human and material cost paid by Iraqis since the illegal 2003 US invasion is not only shameful but also criminal.
A UNSC resolution on Iraqi refugees would end the complicity of the UN in this crime, expose the occupation's illegality and hypocrisy, as well as the barbaric and inhuman nature of the policies the US has been pursuing in Iraq since its illegal invasion in 2003. If we are to re- establish a peaceful international order, US imperialism must be constrained. It promotes sectarianism everywhere. It then uses the plight of those made refugees by sectarian violence as a political tool to blackmail and destabilise both countries of origin and hosting countries. Finally, it uses refugees as a justification for "humanitarian" intervention, regardless of state sovereignty, while obscuring the massive humanitarian crises it generates by its own sectarian policies.http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7790
Iraq with 1.5 million murdered and 4.7 million internally and externally displaced. This is genocide, this is holocaust happening today, these people are continuing to die every day.And we see and hear nothing from our CBC It's like it does not exist. who controls our media, who prevents this from being communicated to the citizens of this country and why.?
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Authoritative estimates of violent and non-violent Iraqi excess deaths now show that the post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Iraq total 2.0 million (see: http://open.newmatilda.com/crosswire/ ), the 1990-1990 Gulf War violent deaths totalled 0.2 million (see: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Iraqis_died_in_the_Gulf_War ), and the 1990-2003 Sanctions War was associated with 1.7 million excess deaths. The total 1990-2007 excess deaths in Iraq now (September 2007) total 3.9 MILLION (see: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/17066/42/ ).
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Iraqi Genocide - 3.9 Million Deaths
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Iraqi Genocide - 3.9 Million Deaths
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]US Holocaust Commission
And Holocaust Denial[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Dr Gideon Polya[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]01 February, 2007
Countercurrents.org[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]T[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]he US recently successfully put a Resolution to UN General Assembly RIGHTLY condemning Holocaust Denial. However the Resolution ignored huge non-Jewish Holocausts e.g. the US-driven Iraqi Holocaust and thus was Holocaust Ignoring, something even WORSE than Holocaust Denial because it is Passive Holocaust Denial that admits of no refutation – who does one refute something that has not even been asserted? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This US Resolution was an act of (a) gross dishonesty and (b) gross hypocrisy. Thus (a) the dishonest IMPLICATION was that Iran (not mentioned in the Resolution but mentioned in the US and Israeli UN speeches) has offended – yet the Iranian delegate made it quite clear that Iran recognized the horror of the Jewish Holocaust and condemned the “Genocide and immense sufferings associated with that horrific crime” (words of the Iranian delegate) (see: http://www.newsbull.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40398 ); and (b) the US is actively involved in on-going Holocaust Commission in Occupied Iraq and Occupied Afghanistan and, together with Israel, has been involved in obscene, public promotion of an Iranian Holocaust involving nuclear weapons. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By NOT specifying OTHER Holocausts the US Resolution was an act of egregious Holocaust Ignoring i.e. PASSIVE Holocaust Denial. The Resolution SHOULD have condemned ANY denial of ANY Holocaust. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Major Holocausts over the last century or so NOT mentioned in the US Resolution include the following (in order of occurrence): the 1904-1907 German Namibian Genocide (the Herero population dropped from 80,000 to 15,000); the 1915-1918 Turkish Armenian Genocide (1 million victims – still denied by Turkey); the 1930-1933 Russian Ukrainian Genocide (5 million victims); the 1937-1945 Japanese invasion of China (35 million Chinese victims); the non-Jewish victims of the Nazi German World War 2 Holocaust – 20 million Soviet citizens, 6 million Poles (half of them Jewish), 1 million Serbs, 0.5 million other Yugoslavs and 0.5 million Roma (Gypsies); the man-made, 1943/44 British Bengali Holocaust (4 million victims – still largely written out of British history books); the 1947 Indian Partition (1 million victims); the 1994 Hutu Rwandan Genocide (1 million victims); the 1971 West Pakistani Bengali Holocaust (3 million victims, 80% male; 0.3 million women raped by the US-backed West Pakistan military); the 1965 Indonesian Genocide (1 million victims); the 1975-2000 Indonesian East Timorese Genocide (0.2 million victims out of a population of about 0.6 million); the US Indo-China war (13 million excess deaths); the post-1950 First World-driven Third World Holocaust (1.2 billion excess deaths, mainly in Africa, Asia and South America); and the post-1950 First World-driven Muslim Holocaust (0.6 billion excess deaths; mainly in Africa and Asia).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In summary, the US recently put up a UN resolution RIGHTLY condemning the obscenity of Holocaust Denial - however this was an act of gross hypocrisy and dishonesty because the Resolution IGNORED numerous OTHER Holocausts including the ON-GOING Iraqi Holocaust and the ON-GOING Afghan Holocaust (post-invasion excess deaths 0.9 million and 2.2 million, respectively PLUS refugees totalling about 3.7 million for EACH occupied country EQUALS Genocide and Holocaust). The US, the UK and their Allies are involved in Holocaust Promotion, Holocaust Commission, Holocaust Ignoring and Holocaust Denial in relation to both Afghanistan and Iraq (see: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/11293/42/ ).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peace is the only way but silence kills and silence is complicity. Decent people are absolutely obliged to INFORM OTHERS about such horrendous abuses of humanity and to act ethically in all their dealings with those complicit in such horrendous crimes. Sanctions and Boycotts that were effective against the racist Apartheid regime in South Africa are surely urgently required now in the face of egregious Anglo-American Holocaust Promotion, Holocaust Commission, Holocaust Ignoring and Holocaust Denial. [/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Iraqi Genocide - 3.9 Million Deaths
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Iraqi Genocide - 3.9 Million Deaths
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]US Holocaust Commission
And Holocaust Denial[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Dr Gideon Polya[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]01 February, 2007
Countercurrents.org[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]T[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]he US recently successfully put a Resolution to UN General Assembly RIGHTLY condemning Holocaust Denial. However the Resolution ignored huge non-Jewish Holocausts e.g. the US-driven Iraqi Holocaust and thus was Holocaust Ignoring, something even WORSE than Holocaust Denial because it is Passive Holocaust Denial that admits of no refutation – who does one refute something that has not even been asserted? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This US Resolution was an act of (a) gross dishonesty and (b) gross hypocrisy. Thus (a) the dishonest IMPLICATION was that Iran (not mentioned in the Resolution but mentioned in the US and Israeli UN speeches) has offended – yet the Iranian delegate made it quite clear that Iran recognized the horror of the Jewish Holocaust and condemned the “Genocide and immense sufferings associated with that horrific crime” (words of the Iranian delegate) (see: http://www.newsbull.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40398 ); and (b) the US is actively involved in on-going Holocaust Commission in Occupied Iraq and Occupied Afghanistan and, together with Israel, has been involved in obscene, public promotion of an Iranian Holocaust involving nuclear weapons. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By NOT specifying OTHER Holocausts the US Resolution was an act of egregious Holocaust Ignoring i.e. PASSIVE Holocaust Denial. The Resolution SHOULD have condemned ANY denial of ANY Holocaust. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Major Holocausts over the last century or so NOT mentioned in the US Resolution include the following (in order of occurrence): the 1904-1907 German Namibian Genocide (the Herero population dropped from 80,000 to 15,000); the 1915-1918 Turkish Armenian Genocide (1 million victims – still denied by Turkey); the 1930-1933 Russian Ukrainian Genocide (5 million victims); the 1937-1945 Japanese invasion of China (35 million Chinese victims); the non-Jewish victims of the Nazi German World War 2 Holocaust – 20 million Soviet citizens, 6 million Poles (half of them Jewish), 1 million Serbs, 0.5 million other Yugoslavs and 0.5 million Roma (Gypsies); the man-made, 1943/44 British Bengali Holocaust (4 million victims – still largely written out of British history books); the 1947 Indian Partition (1 million victims); the 1994 Hutu Rwandan Genocide (1 million victims); the 1971 West Pakistani Bengali Holocaust (3 million victims, 80% male; 0.3 million women raped by the US-backed West Pakistan military); the 1965 Indonesian Genocide (1 million victims); the 1975-2000 Indonesian East Timorese Genocide (0.2 million victims out of a population of about 0.6 million); the US Indo-China war (13 million excess deaths); the post-1950 First World-driven Third World Holocaust (1.2 billion excess deaths, mainly in Africa, Asia and South America); and the post-1950 First World-driven Muslim Holocaust (0.6 billion excess deaths; mainly in Africa and Asia).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In summary, the US recently put up a UN resolution RIGHTLY condemning the obscenity of Holocaust Denial - however this was an act of gross hypocrisy and dishonesty because the Resolution IGNORED numerous OTHER Holocausts including the ON-GOING Iraqi Holocaust and the ON-GOING Afghan Holocaust (post-invasion excess deaths 0.9 million and 2.2 million, respectively PLUS refugees totalling about 3.7 million for EACH occupied country EQUALS Genocide and Holocaust). The US, the UK and their Allies are involved in Holocaust Promotion, Holocaust Commission, Holocaust Ignoring and Holocaust Denial in relation to both Afghanistan and Iraq (see: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/11293/42/ ).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peace is the only way but silence kills and silence is complicity. Decent people are absolutely obliged to INFORM OTHERS about such horrendous abuses of humanity and to act ethically in all their dealings with those complicit in such horrendous crimes. Sanctions and Boycotts that were effective against the racist Apartheid regime in South Africa are surely urgently required now in the face of egregious Anglo-American Holocaust Promotion, Holocaust Commission, Holocaust Ignoring and Holocaust Denial. [/FONT]
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Bengali Famine
Summary:
The famine in British-ruled Bengal in 1943-44 ultimately took the lives of about 4 million people. The speaker talks of how this man-made famine is absent from the history books and virtually unknown to most people.
Apparently it was done simply to deny the japanese supply in any projected invasion and for no other reason.
Robyn Williams: Can you turn science to history? To test it, I mean? You can't really do experiments on the past, so how could it be applied? Dr Gideon Polya insists that science does have a role in this regard, and he'll explain in a minute. But the point of such an exercise is important here, because the reason for Dr Polya's concern (and he's written a book about it) is one of the worst genocides on record, or not on record, unless you search long and hard.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ockham/stories/s19040.htm
Bengali Famine
Summary:
The famine in British-ruled Bengal in 1943-44 ultimately took the lives of about 4 million people. The speaker talks of how this man-made famine is absent from the history books and virtually unknown to most people.
Apparently it was done simply to deny the japanese supply in any projected invasion and for no other reason.
Robyn Williams: Can you turn science to history? To test it, I mean? You can't really do experiments on the past, so how could it be applied? Dr Gideon Polya insists that science does have a role in this regard, and he'll explain in a minute. But the point of such an exercise is important here, because the reason for Dr Polya's concern (and he's written a book about it) is one of the worst genocides on record, or not on record, unless you search long and hard.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ockham/stories/s19040.htm
Even when Congress (after extensive lobbying) altered legislation to permit UNRRA aid for India, no plans were in place for such assistance because the British authorities had not requested it [6]. An offer of 100,000 tons of rice from the Axis collaborationist leader Subhas Chandra Bose was ignored [6,13]. Lord Wavell records in his diary R.G.Casey's intelligence relating to the Argentinian use of 2 million tons of surplus wheat in their railway system in lieu of coal (of which there was a world-wide shortage) [7]. Churchill finally requested U.S. assistance in mid-1944 in terms that he was "no longer justified in not asking for such aid" - with a resultant negative response from Roosevelt [6].
It should be appreciated that India made a major contribution to the war effort. 2,400,000 Indians served in the British forces6 and thousands of Indian, and particularly Bengali, lascars served in the Merchant Navy (the pay being £5, £15 and £22.10.0 a month for Indian, Chinese and British sailors, respectively) [7].
The Second World War involved the following British losses: 303,000 British armed forces personnel killed, 109,000 Commonwealth losses, 60,000 civilians killed in air raids and 30,000 Merchant Navy sailors killed [14]. Against this we can set the forgotten "Allied" millions of Bengalis who died agonizing deaths, the toll amounting to 50 to 100 times the civilian losses in Dresden, Hamburg, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Tokyo or in German bombing raids on Britain.http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/2005/07/forgotten-holocaust-194344-bengal
It should be appreciated that India made a major contribution to the war effort. 2,400,000 Indians served in the British forces6 and thousands of Indian, and particularly Bengali, lascars served in the Merchant Navy (the pay being £5, £15 and £22.10.0 a month for Indian, Chinese and British sailors, respectively) [7].
The Second World War involved the following British losses: 303,000 British armed forces personnel killed, 109,000 Commonwealth losses, 60,000 civilians killed in air raids and 30,000 Merchant Navy sailors killed [14]. Against this we can set the forgotten "Allied" millions of Bengalis who died agonizing deaths, the toll amounting to 50 to 100 times the civilian losses in Dresden, Hamburg, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Tokyo or in German bombing raids on Britain.http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/2005/07/forgotten-holocaust-194344-bengal