The Tarriff Hype.

petros

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Down from over 2900 yeaterday.

We're going broke faster and faster. Lets just pretend everything will be okay and keep going it alone while the rest of the planet allies against us.

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petros

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Steel and Aluminum Tariffs

The trade of steel and aluminum is central to the U.S.-U.A.E. bilateral relationship as this trade accounts for the largest share of U.A.E. exports to the United States. In fact, the U.A.E. is the third-largest exporter of aluminum to the U.S. after China and Russia. U.A.E. exports play an important role in meeting U.S. demand in the automotive, agriculture, defense, and aerospace industries. Most significantly, the high-quality aluminum imported from the U.A.E. is used to produce aircrafts—thereby making an important contribution to U.S. national security.

In 2018, the Trump administration announced steep tariffs on all imports of steel and aluminum, with the exception of imports from Canada and Mexico. The move was widely criticized for hurting major U.S. industries, and for failing to differentiate between countries conducting fair trade and those involved in dumping. While the Trump administration lifted the tariff on aluminum in its last days of office, the Biden administration reinstated it in February 2021.

Given the strong relationship shared by the U.S. and the U.A.E. and the importance of the steel and aluminum trade to both the U.A.E. economy and U.S. national security, the U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council resisted the imposition of these tariffs. In June 2017, the Council convened a meeting of U.S. companies to discuss Section 232 of the U.S. investigation of aluminum imports. It subsequently penned a letter to the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) regarding this investigation in which the Council called for the BIS to hold harmless those countries such as the U.A.E. with bilateral defense agreements with the United States. The letter also emphasized the Council’s conviction that a duty or tariff on primary aluminum would negatively impact the U.S. downstream aluminum sector, placing at risk over 700,000 jobs in no less than 39 states due to a higher price of primary aluminum.

At the same time, the Council made these arguments publicly through appearances on radio stations as well as press commentary in papers such as Reuters, Gulf News, The National, and Arabian Business.

Since the imposition of tariffs, the Council has endeavored to obtain an exemption for the U.A.E. The Council has raised tariffs as an ongoing issue during countless events and discussions with U.S. and U.A.E. government officials and the broader business community. It has also ensured tariffs are on the agenda during bilateral government meetings, such as the annual Economic Policy Dialogue.

The U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council will continue to promote the free and fair trade of steel and aluminum by advocating on behalf of members in the sector, promoting bilateral dialogue, and sharing information with the broader community.

 

Taxslave2

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Ok.

Are we not still Trumps primary target here?
I don't think we ever were. Have to ignore Canadian government paid media hype. And the rants of radical left lunatics like elly may.
A few years back, some bright boys were buying cheap Korean aluminum, and reshipping it to the US. Trump may very well think this is still the case.
 

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Steel and Aluminum Tariffs

The trade of steel and aluminum is central to the U.S.-U.A.E. bilateral relationship as this trade accounts for the largest share of U.A.E. exports to the United States. In fact, the U.A.E. is the third-largest exporter of aluminum to the U.S. after China and Russia. U.A.E. exports play an important role in meeting U.S. demand in the automotive, agriculture, defense, and aerospace industries. Most significantly, the high-quality aluminum imported from the U.A.E. is used to produce aircrafts—thereby making an important contribution to U.S. national security.

In 2018, the Trump administration announced steep tariffs on all imports of steel and aluminum, with the exception of imports from Canada and Mexico. The move was widely criticized for hurting major U.S. industries, and for failing to differentiate between countries conducting fair trade and those involved in dumping. While the Trump administration lifted the tariff on aluminum in its last days of office, the Biden administration reinstated it in February 2021.

Given the strong relationship shared by the U.S. and the U.A.E. and the importance of the steel and aluminum trade to both the U.A.E. economy and U.S. national security, the U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council resisted the imposition of these tariffs. In June 2017, the Council convened a meeting of U.S. companies to discuss Section 232 of the U.S. investigation of aluminum imports. It subsequently penned a letter to the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) regarding this investigation in which the Council called for the BIS to hold harmless those countries such as the U.A.E. with bilateral defense agreements with the United States. The letter also emphasized the Council’s conviction that a duty or tariff on primary aluminum would negatively impact the U.S. downstream aluminum sector, placing at risk over 700,000 jobs in no less than 39 states due to a higher price of primary aluminum.

At the same time, the Council made these arguments publicly through appearances on radio stations as well as press commentary in papers such as Reuters, Gulf News, The National, and Arabian Business.

Since the imposition of tariffs, the Council has endeavored to obtain an exemption for the U.A.E. The Council has raised tariffs as an ongoing issue during countless events and discussions with U.S. and U.A.E. government officials and the broader business community. It has also ensured tariffs are on the agenda during bilateral government meetings, such as the annual Economic Policy Dialogue.

The U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council will continue to promote the free and fair trade of steel and aluminum by advocating on behalf of members in the sector, promoting bilateral dialogue, and sharing information with the broader community.

Interesting thing about UAE aluminum. The Melting pots in the Kitimat smelter, which are basically large steel boxes lined with brick, came from UAE. We thought it a rather odd place to be buying fabricated stee products from. Makes a bit more sense now. The plant is a French design.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Itll be a repeat of last time.
Last time, 2018-ish, dragged out for a year, didn’t it? I’ve put in a full day plus several hours, so I’m behind on everything. Is this still now not focused on Canada, with Trump not now specifically mentioning Canada everytime he mentions aluminum & steel tariffs (or has that changed today?)?

Has this shifted away from “all” steel & aluminum imports from all countries…with Canada being the largest source of each for imports for America? Or is that still the same as yesterday?

Is Trump still mentioning Canada as the 51st state everytime be mentions tariffs & Canada? Or has that changed in the last 24 hours now? Or is this still one of those “you gotta read between the lines about what he’s not saying instead of what he’s actually saying” sorta thing?
 

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Last time, 2018-ish, dragged out for a year, didn’t it? I’ve put in a full day plus several hours, so I’m behind on everything. Is this still now not focused on Canada, with Trump not now specifically mentioning Canada everytime he mentions aluminum & steel tariffs (or has that changed today?)?

Has this shifted away from “all” steel & aluminum imports from all countries…with Canada being the largest source of each for imports for America? Or is that still the same as yesterday?

Is Trump still mentioning Canada as the 51st state everytime be mentions tariffs & Canada? Or has that changed in the last 24 hours now? Or is this still one of those “you gotta read between the lines about what he’s not saying instead of what he’s actually saying” sorta thing?
All the answers were posted. In a nutshell...

Mr Trump, who made the announcement on Sunday, said it would apply to all countries. The tariffs will take effect on March 12, the White House said on Monday.

Currently, the US imports about 70 per cent of its aluminium supply, with about 60 per cent coming from Canada, tariff-free.

The top exporters of aluminium to the US in 2024 included Canada, with more than 3.15 million tonnes, the UAE (347,033 tonnes) and China (222,871 tonnes), according to US International Trade Administration data. South Korea and Bahrain rounded off the top five aluminium exporters to the US last year. The US also imports aluminium from Oman, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, the ITA data shows.

As for steel, we import more from the US than they buy from us.
 
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petros

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Now we have Doug Ford dropping a hint.

Trump also moved to impose 25 per cent tariffs on all Mexican imports at the same time, but he delayed those levies for both countries until at least March 4 in response to border security commitments made separately by Canada and Mexico.

Ford said he was disappointed by the latest duties. While premiers will be talking with the federal government about retaliatory measures, Ford said it’s the last thing anyone wants.

Ford, who initially suggested cutting off energy flows to the U.S., is instead leaning into his “Fortress Am-Can” proposal to deepen the resource alliance between the two countries in an effort to push back on the geopolitical influence of China.



 

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Well, the US better hope it can ramp up its aluminum production toute suite or else Americans are going to be paying 25% more for goods made with aluminum for a while. 70% is a LOT to make up if you wanna do it quickly.
 
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