The 'Supernatural' TV series

[selfsame]

Neither do I, but sometimes we must engage evil. I will challenge him and expose the lies.

How will you expose the alleged lies, when you are liar!? :lol:

First of all you lie to yourself, and you hide the truth... at least half of the truth about your own crimes?

Hypocrite, how can you speak righteousness and you are evil? said Jesus Christ.

Tell us about Muhammad, a man who raped children. A man who lied so that he would not be punished for murder and rape.

What's the matter with Mohammed - salam to him - here?

Tell us how this pig teaches innocent children how to kill.

Tell us what lies you teach your own children and insert the rancor and hatred in their minds.
As have some clergies and rabbis insert in your mind the hatred, the rancor and lies about the Quran and the Islam until you become such bigot and fanatic .. so as to bar you from studying the Glorious Quran.

Are you some mean pig, coming from our Muslim countries? .. I smell your betrayal of your own country and your own people .. coward!

Have you run away from your eastern country, or are you still in your dark corner spreading your lies and bigotry .. the thing which does not please Jesus Christ?

Tell us how your posts from the quran, a book of lies, deceit and murder were written by an unclean man who laid with u clean women.

This is your lie; so what about the missed books that have been lost from the Bible?
The Conflict between the Torah and the Quran

Tell us about Al Hilly's treachery and how he rewrote lies which he called "interpretations".

They are not any lies, but your blindness prevents you from seeing the truth.

Tell us why you never answer the questions of the people here. It is because you cannot. You are a servant of Satan. No servant of the devil can speak the truth.

I answer the questions, but you don't read because Satan prevents you from reading them lest you may discover the true guidance of the Quran.

Your words are poison. The words of a pig.

People here read your words and know they are poisonous; it may be you look like a pig :laughing6:
I think you almost look like a pig .. if not then show us your ugly picture: it may be uglier than the pig.

I will post more about the evil of Islam later.

Eee .. and what are you Abul hawa .. a fart? :lol:
Are you from Iraq, chalib?

Let us pray that innocent people around the world will no longer die at the hands of Muslim cowards.

Amen, and not either by the hand of Christian cowards and ugly Zionists, amen.

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In this Suprenatural series

Hell is claimed under the control and authority of Satan: he can admit to Hell whomever he wants and expels out of it anyone he likes.

While the truth is not like this: the admission into either of Hell or Paradise (heaven) is up to God alone, and none can decide this other than He alone

This life of the World and the Next Life is by the hand of God

Quran 53: 25, which means
{To God are [both] the Next Life, and the First [life in the World.] b}
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b Therefore, God guides to His religion those that are merciful towards the needy, and He forgives for the
monotheists, and admits to His paradises those that are God-fearing

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/53.htm#a53_25


Quran 28: 70, which means:
{And He is God: there is no god [in the entire universe] but He [alone.]
To Him the praise is due [of you c]: in the first [life of the World] and in the last [or Next Life.
And up to Him is the judgment [of His servants, according to what they deserve]
and to Him shall you [all] be brought back [after your death] d}
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c i.e. you must praise Him for His bounties
d When He will reward you according to your acts

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/28.htm#a28_70

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But .. in the afterlife, God will leave some criminals out of His enemies and the enemies of His messengers .. who opposed His messengers and resisted them and denied His revelations .. the idolaters and associaters who saw His messenger with their own eyes and yet they denied him .. and those who insist on their opposition of God and His messengers .. such disbelievers, God will leave them to Satan's disposal to torture them and to let them suffer many things ... maybe casting them in Hell .. which is the fire of valcanoes inside the earth during the afterlife following death

Quran 25: 22, which means:
{On the day [of their death] when they will see the angels [of death seizing their souls d] – no glad news on that day be for the guilty e, and [the angels] shall say [to them]: "An arrest [and detainment for you by devils] enclosed [on you till Doomsday. f ]"}
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d Who will take their souls out of their bodies.

e This is a parable about their affliction with the chastisement; it means: The chastisement is for the guilty, and the good news, of admission into Paradise, is for the righteous.

f It means: Devils will capture and imprison you till Doomsday.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/25.htm#a25_22

While other chief criminals and adversaries, God will command His angels of punishment to torture and punish them with chains and to cast them in the fire of volcanoes inside the earth core till Doomsday when they will go to Saqar: the Hell of Doomsday.

Quran 69: 31-33, which mean:
{30. [Then God will say to the angels:]
"Take him and shackle him e."
31. "Then broil him [by casting him headlong] in Hell." f
32. And thrust him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits [: winding that chain around him.]"}
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e i.e. chain him with shackles.

f This is the chastisement of the Barzakh [or the Afterlife] before the chastisement of Doomsday;

the ‘hell’ is the volcano; because every big fire is called a hell. The indication of this is His saying – be glorified – about the story of Abraham, in the Quran 37: 97, which means:
(They said [one to another]: "Build for [burning] him a building, and throw him into the blazing fire. ")

Therefore, any aya in the Quran similar to this one: that “the angels take them to the fire” or “drive them” or what is alike – this will be special for the Barzakh [or the Afterlife.]

While on Doomsday, the gravity of the sun will draw them towards it, and the angels have nothing to do with admitting them into Hell.
For this reason, God – be glorified – said in the Quran 52: 13, which means:
(On the day [of Doom] when they will be thrust along, with an [incessant] thrust, into the fire of Hell.)
It means: they will assault Hell fire in groups and masses; and that is because of such gravity, and not by their own will.

Moreover, God – be glorified – said in the Quran 19: 71-72, which means:
(Every one of you, [people], without exception, will go towards [Hell]; that is an inevitable ordinance of your Lord. Then We shall save [from the gravity of Hell] those who warded off [God's disobedience], and shall leave the wrong-doers crowding therein.)

This will take place on Doomsday, because the sun will draw them altogether the believers and the disbelievers.

Then God will save those who avoid the association so that they do not associate anything with God in the worship, but they are sinners, therefore, the angels will save them from the fire after they fulfill their punishment in it.

While those who die before Doomsday, they will be involved in this aya, because they fulfill their punishment on earth, then the angels will take them to the Paradise or Garden of Refuge, if they are believers and monotheists [who consecrate their worship exclusively to God alone.]

The punishment on earth is of many kinds: some of them are imprisoned in his home, some of them are imprisoned in the desert under the sun rays and heat, some of them are imprisoned in his grave together with his dead body, and some of them are tormented in the fire: in volcanoes; and this is according to their sins.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/69.htm#a69_30

 

[Murphy]

I am glad that you write so much, demon. No one reads your nonsense.

 

[Serryah]

Serryah, I watched some shows of the Supernatural

Yeah... I don't think so, otherwise you would understand what the show is about. But you don't, so you haven't.

So guess I'm calling you a liar.

 

[Murphy]

It's alright to call him a liar. That's what he does. Unfortunately, he will post anything so that he can respond with more quotes from the Quran, aka, the Book of Lies.

I shot a rabid dog once. The owner, an old Muslim, told me that I would pay with my life for killing it. Allah would strike me down. But, you know what? The dog was dead. No one was in danger of getting rabies. The old man got over it. Most importantly, Allah ignored him. :lol:

The message? selfsame is like an old man, yelling in the street. Everybody ignores him, including Allah.

I will write more when I am home. or when the servant of Satan posts, which, if memory serves, should be shortly. I believe he is "servicing" the imam, whatever that means.

 

[SLM]

I just heard that they're doing a series based on the 1970s blockbuster film "The Exorcist"


I can't wait to see what he'll make of that.

 

[Murphy]

I am certain there's a passage of the Quran that specifically addresses the movie. Call it preplanning. The devil loves publicity.

That's why I think he created selfsame, but I think he needs a better publicist. 'The Exorcist' could be subtitled, "When Muhammad Visited America". The gist of the story - Satan got tossed out on his ***. Together, they are like peanut butter and jam.

 

[selfsame]

Yeah... I don't think so, otherwise you would understand what the show is about. But you don't, so you haven't.

So guess I'm calling you a liar.

No, I am not.
Do you believe in this Supernatural and their symbols? Are you a Satan and genie worshiper?

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I will answer later on, by God's will; but I am leaving now :lol:

 

[Corduroy]

In this Suprenatural series

Hell is claimed under the control and authority of Satan: he can admit to Hell whomever he wants and expels out of it anyone he likes.

That isn't exactly true in Supernatural. Satan (Lucifer) is caged in Hell for most of the series. He is released from Hell at the end of season 4 and tries to orchestrate the apocalypse in season 5, only to be thrown back into his cage, with the archangel Michael, at the end of season 5. In the last season, Lucifer was released from Hell to fight Amara (God's evil sister). He's the ruler of Hell in the sense that he's a ruler in exile.

After season 5 Hell is ruled mostly the demon Crowley, who turns Hell into a kind of business. Souls are sources of power and the demons in Hell work to collect as many souls as they can.

It's not clear in the series how people are sent to Hell. You do occasionally see good people in Heaven, so we can assume it's the usual good people go to Heaven and bad people go to Hell. Usually, the only time you see people going to Hell is when they sell their souls to some demon. Demons in Supernatural are humans corrupted by evil, often after selling their souls.

Getting out of Hell usually involves some kind of deal or jailbreak like situation. After Dean goes to Hell for selling his soul to save his brother's life, the angel Castiel goes in and pulls him out.

I will answer later on, by God's will; but I am leaving now :lol:

 

[Ludlow]

That isn't exactly true in Supernatural. Satan (Lucifer) is caged in Hell for most of the series. He is released from Hell at the end of season 4 and tries to orchestrate the apocalypse in season 5, only to be thrown back into his cage, with the archangel Michael, at the end of season 5. In the last season, Lucifer was released from Hell to fight Amara (God's evil sister). He's the ruler of Hell in the sense that he's a ruler in exile.

After season 5 Hell is ruled mostly the demon Crowley, who turns Hell into a kind of business. Souls are sources of power and the demons in Hell work to collect as many souls as they can.

It's not clear in the series how people are sent to Hell. You do occasionally see good people in Heaven, so we can assume it's the usual good people go to Heaven and bad people go to Hell. Usually, the only time you see people going to Hell is when they sell their souls to some demon. Demons in Supernatural are humans corrupted by evil, often after selling their souls.

Getting out of Hell usually involves some kind of deal or jailbreak like situation. After Dean goes to Hell for selling his soul to save his brother's life, the angel Castiel goes in and pulls him out.

That was interesting. A little synopsis on the show. I've never watched it but it sounds like it has some pretty good writers. The Jewish scribes who were exiled in Babylon thousands of years ago would be proud.

 

[Corduroy]

It's a fun show. I could go on.

 

[selfsame]

Truly, I did not watch all the series; I saw some shows or parts of shows for a considerable time: when I have meal; really I didn't see the show in total.

But I have idea about the Supernatural series ..

I know Dean of course and his brother Sammy and Bob the angel, then another angel, wearing a long coat, came instead of Bob.
Satan or the Devil, and I am not certain about Lucifer? and his minions: the devils?

Although the series as a whole is imaginary; but I find it good to explain much about the spiritual world: and to correct the displayed ideas.

So let me now reply to your previous post.

your post #35

 

[Murphy]

They will be empty words. You speak about a television show that you have not watched. You do not know the stories, but you will speak anyway.

This is a trick of the devil. Using any excuse to spread the writings of Satan.

Begone demon! The Lord rebuke you!
(Film at 11)

 

[selfsame]

Spirits, souls, devils and angels are spiritual beings: they are dead already.
It means they were living in the material world like ourselves then they died and became spiritual beings.
When we die, our spirits (or souls) separate from out material bodies ... the material body will decay and become dust later on, while the soul (or spirit) will be immortal.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm#What_Is_Man_

So I will give it point by point, but only show some patience until I complete the explanation.

They will be empty words. You speak about a television show that you have not watched. You do not know the stories, but you will speak anyway.

This is a trick of the devil. Using any excuse to spread the writings of Satan.

Begone demon! The Lord rebuke you!
(Film at 11)

Hoo hoo :laughing6:

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So the human soul will be immortal; the soul will never die again: because the death is only the separation of the soul from the body.
So the soul will not be killed: the soul may suffer or feel pleasure but will never die: the soul is immortal.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm#What_Is_Death_

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There is the man-kind whose bodies created from the earth elements (like Na, K, Ca, Mg, Fe ..etc) while his spirit (or soul) is formed from the ether (which is not the matter).
The soul is a true copy of the body in which it is formed: the material body is the mold for forming the soul: the soul will be identical in shape to the body in which it is formed.
The soul is the true man: the soul is the one that thinks, feels, sees and hears, while the body cannot do that, and it will be like the cast board does not see, does not hear and does not understand, and it will decay.

 

[Corduroy]

Truly, I did not watch all the series; I saw some shows or parts of shows for a considerable time: when I have meal; really I didn't see the show in total.

But I have idea about the Supernatural series ..

I know Dean of course and his brother Sammy and Bob the angel, then another angel, wearing a long coat, came instead of Bob.
Satan or the Devil, and I am not certain about Lucifer? and his minions: the devils?

Although the series as a whole is imaginary; but I find it good to explain much about the spiritual world: and to correct the displayed ideas.

So let me now reply to your previous post.

your post #35

I wouldn't assume that you've seen the whole show. It's 11 seasons and counting. There are over 200 episodes. If you believe in the Abrahamic cosmology the show draws on, then it's obviously wrong. The show takes liberties to create its own mythology.

The main characters are Dean and Sam, of course, who are brothers and monster hunters. Bobby is not an angel. He's a human and another monster hunter that helps them. The angel wearing the long coat is Castiel. He's a major character too. I could get into his whole back story but

Lucifer is Satan. He's only on the show rarely.

 

[selfsame]

There is another kind of creatures: the genie-kind:
The genie is similar to man in most of their features: and they differ from man in some points.
The living genie has his body created from gases (while man's body is created from earth elements); so the genie's body is created from gases .. and therefore he is invisible to us.
The genie consists of a gaseous body and of a spirit or soul formed from the ether like our souls; so the soul of both of man and genie is formed from the ether.
The genie lives in the life of the World (like the living man) then will die .. i.e. his soul will separate from his material gaseous body, so the gaseous body will disintegrate while the soul of the genie will be immortal in the world of souls, like the human soul.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Genies

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Another kind of this category of spiritual beings: the angels.
The angels are spiritual; they were men living in the material world (on the previous planets of the previous solar systems), then they died, and because they were righteous and worked righteous work, so God admitted them into Paradise, then He clothed them the ethereal skins and they became the angels .. the obedient servants of God.
The angels are capable of doing acts that the human souls cannot do; they can show us themselves and can do many other acts according to God's command.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Angels_

 

[Corduroy]

Spirits, souls, devils and angels are spiritual beings: they are dead already.
It means they were living in the material world like ourselves then they died and became spiritual beings.
When we die, our spirits (or souls) separate from out material bodies ... the material body will decay and become dust later on, while the soul (or spirit) will be immortal.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm#What_Is_Man_

So I will give it point by point, but only show some patience until I complete the explanation.

Yeah, in the show spirits and devils are separated from their bodies. They used to be human. Not angels though. Angels were created by God and there are a limited number of them. They are spiritual beings that take human form by possessing human bodies.

Demons can force themselves into people's bodies whereas angels need to ask permission.

So the human soul will be immortal; the soul will never die again: because the death is only the separation of the soul from the body.
So the soul will not be killed: the soul may suffer or feel pleasure but will never die: the soul is immortal.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm#What_Is_Death_

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There is the man-kind whose bodies created from the earth elements (like Na, K, Ca, Mg, Fe ..etc) while his spirit (or soul) is formed from the ether (which is not the matter).
The soul is a true copy of the body in which it is formed: the material body is the mold for forming the soul: the soul will be identical in shape to the body in which it is formed.
The soul is the true man: the soul is the one that thinks, feels, sees and hears, while the body cannot do that, and it will be like the cast board does not see, does not hear and does not understand, and it will decay.

I think the nature and origin of souls is not clear in the show. Souls are supposed to be incredibly powerful and I think they are indestructible.

There is another kind of creatures: the genie-kind:
The genie is similar to man in most of their features: and they differ from man in some points.
The living genie has his body created from gases (while man's body is created from earth elements); so the genie's body is created from gases .. and therefore he is invisible to us.
The genie consists of a gaseous body and of a spirit or soul formed from the ether like our souls; so the soul of both of man and genie is formed from the ether.
The genie lives in the life of the World (like the living man) then will die .. i.e. his soul will separate from his material gaseous body, so the gaseous body will disintegrate while the soul of the genie will be immortal in the world of souls, like the human soul.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Genies

In Supernatural genies are monsters that feed on human blood. They basically put their victims into comas where they dream living out their deepest wishes while the djinn slowly drains their blood.

 

[selfsame]

Another kind of spiritual beings: the devils.
The devils are the dead genies: the evil, the charlatan and the disobedient to God.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Devils_

Satan or Azazel or Lucifer as some call him is their father as was Adam our father.
Satan has authority on the evil and disobedient genie souls; so the dead evil genies are the devils: the servants and assistants of Satan.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Satan

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So now after carefully reading the previous notes, we may proceed to know more details.

As I said: I did not see the whole series.

 

[Murphy]

Typical for you. You comment about things of which you know little or nothing.

 

[selfsame]

Yeah, in the show spirits and devils are separated from their bodies. They used to be human. Not angels though. Angels were created by God and there are a limited number of them. They are spiritual beings that take human form by possessing human bodies.

Demons can force themselves into people's bodies whereas angels need to ask permission.


I think the nature and origin of souls is not clear in the show. Souls are supposed to be incredibly powerful and I think they are indestructible.


In Supernatural genies are monsters that feed on human blood. They basically put their victims into comas where they dream living out their deepest wishes while the djinn slowly drains their blood.

So here are some points which are correct and others in the show are wrong:
The correct is the soul is indestructible; true, but the soul is liable to have pain or hurt or suffering and will not die (the soul has already died.)

The angels are created by God (as are all creatures), but they are spiritual ethereal souls of the righteous man or genie
The angels are the inhabitants of the Paradise (or heaven); there is a large number of angels, although they have many ranks and not all of them in the same rank: so Gabriel, Michael, Israfil are some of the chiefs of angels.
Angels have duties in God's service: like recording the work of man, taking his soul when his death hour is due ..etc.

The angels having their ethereal skins are more powerful than devils; the Devil or Satan has been given respite that he is not punished till Doomsday, and he is allowed to be the master of devils and the souls of the idolaters and disbelievers whom he will subject to his service.
So Satan cannot overcome God: he is only given respite till Doomsday that he will not be punished in Hell until then, and he was driven out of Paradise and will pelted by meteors should he approach the paradise or heaven.

 

[Corduroy]

OK, so in Supernatural, Lucifer is an angel that turned on God. He created demons, which are corrupted humans.


Monsters are basically another race of creatures with varieties like vampires and genies etc. They were all created by Eve, one of the original beings created by God. There's some speculation that Eve might be a Leviathan. Leviathans were created by God first but too evil, so he put them in purgatory which is where Eve comes from and all monsters go when they die.

Eve is boring. She's evil but not fun.

After Eve, the leader of the Leviathans is Dick Roman. As the Big Bad in season 7, Dick Roman is basically an excuse for the writers to make dick jokes all season.

etc.