The Sick State of Todays Science
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hehe That's what I meant by "love". Never occurred to me that someone would become a scientist to get next to his/her scientist crush. lol But I suppose there is the odd one to do that, too.lol
I even know one scientist who became a scoentist mainly to be able to thumb his nose at someone.
I read that both gravity and electric force are longitutinal. The magnetic field of the sun is torroidal, wrapped arround the equator so don't we need billions of doughnuts held in one big doughnut? Is this giant doughnut contained in one plane or how do we envision a sphereical torroidal field? I'm trying get a picture of the big doughnut in my head.
No doubt. There probably are nearly half a dozen in Canada. The money is not that great (about the same as a schoolteacher)
That's a "hole"y concept.
Petros did not comment on the hole which is described by the doughnut did he. What will it be filled with I wonder?
Noisy Space—Electric SpaceFeb 23, 2009
A recent press release announced the measurement of background radio noise over six times what was “hoped for” based on data from a NASA-funded high altitude helium balloon.
Space scientists from NASA and UC Berkeley recently announced that the Absolute Radiometer for Cosmology, Astrophysics, and Diffuse Emission (ARCADE) findings uncovered unexpectedly high radio emissions from the cosmic background. There is no mistaking the unmitigated surprise from the investigators at this discovery.
The researchers had expected to identify weak background radio noise from early star formation after the Big Bang. However, in the words of the principle investigator, Alan Kogut, “Instead of the faint signal we hoped to find, here was this booming noise six times louder than anyone had predicted.”
According to the investigators, there are no theories to explain the unusually high background signal level. But what if the space between galaxies is a source of synchrotron radio emissions?
Built to rise to 120,000 feet, ARCADE is the first instrument sensitive enough to detect this radio signal. The radio receivers are immersed in 500 gallons of liquid helium, which keeps them at 2.7 Kelvin (2.7 degrees above absolute zero) to enhance their sensitivity.
In determining background radio noise, the researches must subtract out known sources to arrive at a true background value. This iNoisy Space—Electric Space
The researchers had expected to identify weak background radio noise from early star formation after the Big Bang. However, in the words of the principle investigator, Alan Kogut, “Instead of the faint signal we hoped to find, here was this booming noise six times louder than anyone had predicted.”
According to the investigators, there are no theories to explain the unusually high background signal level. But what if the space between galaxies is a source of synchrotron radio emissions?
Built to rise to 120,000 feet, ARCADE is the first instrument sensitive enough to detect this radio signal. The radio receivers are immersed in 500 gallons of liquid helium, which keeps them at 2.7 Kelvin (2.7 degrees above absolute zero) to enhance their sensitivity.
In determining background radio noise, the researches must subtract out known sources to arrive at a true background value. This iNoisy Space—Electric Space
If it's a plain doughnut the unseen hole could be dark dough. The infilled cosmic torroid undoubtedly has a very complex dark jelly center. I don't understand confectionary spectography very well so I'm reluctant to speculate too much about the flavour just yet untill I've done some more reading, boston creame perhaps but it's too preliminary to make an anouncement.:lol:
Maybe *you* do; I don't see any reason to equate them based on that.
Doesn't affect my position at all, though it would seem to weaken yours significantly if that's an accurate description of you. You're lapsing into your usual logical fallacies again, ad hominem and tu quoque that time.
Well that splendid tautology certainly clears things up: Newton observed gravity to be attractive because Newton observed gravity to be attractive. Good one. :roll:
You should see the girls in the Chemistry department here. Holy molly. Seriously.
It doesn't beg any question. It rather explains that it has no image. A subatomic particle can emit/absorb a few photons at a time, probably one, I can't remember. You cannot scatter enough photons off of it to get an image. It doesn't really have an identity as a classical object.
I meant it raised the question on my end Niflmir and your answer explaining that it didn't raised ten or fifteen other questions.
We could see if you had some photos of these hot chemistry babes Tonnington and don't bother with a mathmatical equivilent.:smile:
You'll have to take my word for it, unless you're in the Truro area some time. Take a stroll through the Cox building. :smile:
Newton gave us his ‘law of gravity,’ which describes its effect but doesn’t explain it. “I frame no hypotheses,” he wrote. Einstein wasn’t so prudent.
Yeah it was attractive then and after millions of tons of papers and several forests of pencils it's still only attractive. What's the hold up on that explanation I wonder? If I was funding research for three-hundred and fifty years with nothing and I mean nothing but increadable stories about giant empty black holes of super massive nothing I might begin to wonder if maybe the wrong people were on the job. Maybe science could use a good shake up, maybe if we gave half of them a good beating with pointy sticks the rest would fall in to line and get something done before everything collapses back into a speck again.
What do you think "explain it" actually means? What we call the "laws of physics" aren't laws at all in any conventional sense, they're just summaries of observed regularities that provide a means of describing and predicting how nature behaves under certain circumstances. Quantum theory and general relativity do that very well, but you seem to take the view that they're just calculating tricks that sometimes give the right answers without really explaining anything. How is your silly electric universe hypothesis--I won't dignify it by calling it a theory--any better? Can it explain electric charge and the forces it creates? Can it explain how moving charges create magnetic forces? No it can't, it just takes them as given, this is how nature has been observed to behave. You criticize conventional science because it can't answer certain questions, when your version of things can't answer them either but you like to pretend it can.
You get sillier every time you try to defend your position against people like me and Niflmir who really do know something about what science is and how it works. And you still haven't come up with the calculation you agreed to produce in another thread, about the amperage and power and the induced magnetic field of the Birkeland current you claim energizes the sun. It's simple second year classical EM theory, at least for a first approximation; put up or shut up.
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Well certainly you seem for all the world the very fabric of the voice of reason itself. I have nothing but the most positive of indications from recent measurement and observations that you will soon be exposed as a religious relativist nutbag by the real scientists . And when that happens rather than concede your mistakes you will continue to fanaticaly defend the big bang because you are a faith healing priest to your core. Even if I showed you the calculations you would disagree useing the convieniently accepted assumptions while disallowing other just as reasonable but not acceptable assumptions.
Not to mention the fact that he hasn't even tried to rationalize the point I made earlier: the induced dipole force his electrical universe presupposes is inversely proportional to the third power of the seperation, yet at the Newtonian level alone, gravity behaves as inverse square.
Then there is the fact that a dipole field is highly anisotropic and gravity is measured to be highly isotropic to an excellent precision.
The idea is just full of holes the minute you try to work out the details.