The Right to Die -Case in BC courts now

damngrumpy

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This is one of those issues that we cannot merely act on what we feel or think at
the moment. There is no simple answer. I for example support the right for a
person to chose the end if there is no possible cure on the horizon. Having said
that however, we are living in a country that is abound with uncertainty and it also
has many cultures living within it.
In other words I do not want to see the procedure used to bump people off for a
quick payday. The other side of the coin is family control in some cultures. We
already have some with the warped opinion that honour killings are alright and we
don't want to open a new sad chapter in Canadian History that allows some to get
rid of the defenceless for a host of private reasons.
This should become part of a much larger discussion, and yes some people are not
going to see their dream enacted immediately The right outcome for the majority of
Canadians must be handled first however. I support the concept in principal but at
the open I don't think it should be an open season on the terminally ill quite yet.
As all things in society it does take time, and in a world of instant decisions, that
might not sit too well. No I don't regard the matter as stalling it should be discussed
thoroughly however, to find the safeguards that are required to protect the
vulnerable. Sometimes the vulnerable are those assisting, as well as people who
want to die, or in some cases are going to die that might not be quite so willing.
Let us get this right before we just go ahead and enact a law we might regret.
 

Ocean Breeze

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There would have to be a certain criteria to be met before being enacted. These criteria have to be firm, humane , and in the best interest of the person who would be dying. They would have to involve the person's wishes, living will or Statement made to another responsible adult, the family, the physician . and probably the family lawyer. (who should KNOW the person's wishes )

Seems we have no problem sending young and healthy people into wars of CHOICE, based on Lies to be killed, maimed and otherwise destroyed. It is no wonder that so many committ suicide. Their residual problems can be over whelming....be they physical pain on a chronic level , mental anquish that cannot be tolerated.

The laws of "right to die" policy would have to be clear and well defined. but each situation must be addressed on an individual basis.

the reality is that it is inhumane to prolong an EXISTENCE that has literally ceased being a "life" Brain death falls into this too.
 

damngrumpy

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This reminds me of a joke I once heard, There was a man who decided to
take his own life, everything was either to painful or too morbid to go through
with. Hanging himself, cutting wrists, jumping in front of a bus you name it.
After long and considerable thought he Laid down behind the wheels of a
Canadian Postal Truck and he starved to death,.

In short of course there would have to be an agreed method of administering
a merciful end. That goes without saying. What has to be safeguarded is the
person wishing to die, should have to be pretty clear that is what their wishes
are. There should be more than one consultation and those doing the interviews
should be doing so without other family members giving input.

This matter has to be done professionally and with all due consideration to the
patient. That is why the whole national discussion has to take place before any
and all decisions are finalized. This could take a few years at least before we
just go ahead and embark on a program.
 

bluebyrd35

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If I was dying I'd like the option available. If a person wants to live, let them live. If they want to die, let them die.[/QUOTE
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The key words here are "if I was dying" The problem legislation is trying to circumvent, are those who wish to die but are not physically ill. This is where choosing who and when the option should be made available is difficult.
 

TenPenny

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This reminds me of a joke I once heard, There was a man who decided to
take his own life, everything was either to painful or too morbid to go through
with. Hanging himself, cutting wrists, jumping in front of a bus you name it.
After long and considerable thought he Laid down behind the wheels of a
Canadian Postal Truck and he starved to death,.

When we were at the Grand Canyon, I read about a guy who decided to commit suicide by jumping, but he only went about 10 ft, and broke his legs, so he tried to kill himself with a knife, but someone grabbed him and stopped him.

You have to be kind of a loser to fail at committing suicide at the grand canyon.
 

bluebyrd35

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When we were at the Grand Canyon, I read about a guy who decided to commit suicide by jumping, but he only went about 10 ft, and broke his legs, so he tried to kill himself with a knife, but someone grabbed him and stopped him.

You have to be kind of a loser to fail at committing suicide at the grand canyon.
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True.

Two days ago, here, a man called 911 to say he had shot & killed his wife, and was about to kill himself. Operator tried to keep him on the line, but he simply hung up.

They left a note indicating that the severe arthritic pain the wife had suffered for years had become unbearable and the husband was also suffering also from the same problem. The will, the cemetery papers on the plots purchased the day previous were with the note

Wouldn't it have been nice if they could have chosen to apply for a method of departing life, without resorting to such violent means??
 

JLM

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When we were at the Grand Canyon, I read about a guy who decided to commit suicide by jumping, but he only went about 10 ft, and broke his legs, so he tried to kill himself with a knife, but someone grabbed him and stopped him.

You have to be kind of a loser to fail at committing suicide at the grand canyon.

It's a pretty big leap (I've been there) If a guy is capable of doing that he would be a world class athlete and shouldn't have to worry about it.