The Republican Party Is Catastrophically Broken

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The Republican Party Is Catastrophically Broken

When the history of the fledgling, fumbling Trump presidency is written, the past week will go down as either the end of the beginning, or the beginning of the end. Trump’s disastrous week began with FBI director James Comey confirming that his campaign is under investigation for possible “coordination” with Russian officials to sabotage Hillary Clinton’s presidential candidacy. It ended with the ominous slam of a door Friday night: House Speaker Paul Ryan pulling the monstrous American Health Care Act because he didn’t have the votes to pass it, admitting that the GOP’s seven-year crusade to repeal the Affordable Care Act is over.

A president who campaigned on the promise that “we’re going to win so much, you’re gonna be sick of winning” has suffered a disabling string of losses in his first two months. He had to fire his National Security Advisor, Mike Flynn, for lying about conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak; Attorney General Jeff Sessions, also discovered dissembling about his Russian ties, had to recuse himself from Comey’s investigation into Trump campaign coordination with Russia. Federal judges have repeatedly blocked his Muslim ban. But nothing has been as publicly humiliating as the betrayal of a core campaign promise: That Trump and Republicans would “immediately,” in his words, “repeal and replace” the nightmare of Obamacare. Influential conservative writer Philip Klein called Trump and Ryan’s move to pull the bill from consideration “the biggest broken promise in political history.”

Although it only lasted 17 legislative days – a ridiculous timeframe for a major health system overhaul – it was enough time to show that Trump is an incompetent poseur, hardly the master negotiator he claims to be, and that Paul Ryan is a shallow opportunist who pretends to be a policy wonk and sharp political leader, but is neither.

The bill was a tax cut for the rich disguised as healthcare reform, financed heavily by cruel cuts to Medicare. Most people would have paid more in premiums, and the plan would have insured 24 million fewer Americans over 10 years. As I’ve written before, it couldn’t have hurt Trump’s voter base – older white working class red-state residents – more had it been expressly designed to do so.

Clearly an unprecedented progressive mobilization played a huge role in the bill’s failure. Republican lawmakers reported receiving thousands of phone calls on the AHCA, all but a handful against it. That stiffened the spines of House Democrats; by staying completely united, Democrats exposed the deep fissures in the GOP.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-republican-party-is-catastrophically-broken/
 

Kreskin

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There might be an opportunity for a new party to come in that is middle ground. The tea party is making the government unworkable, no matter who is in office. Take half of the Republicans and half of the Democrats (all those closer to the center where most people are).
 

petros

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Attempting to fulfill campaign promises and failing is far more noble than Trudeau's lying and doing the opposite.

Trudeau campaigned from the Left and is ruling from the Right.

Trump is sticking to what the voters asked for.
 

coldstream

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Both the Republican and Democratic Parties, as they now constituted are at death's door. They are ridden with orthodoxy and ideological conformity in culture and economy.

In a fundamental sense they do not really offer any difference. Both are shills for the Global Free Market Capitalism, radical individualism, moral relativism. Their patter differs, their programs are in all practical sense the same.. incorporating post-nationalism and cultural libertarianism. They both stand for national and social decline and fragmentation.

Trump's real value is that he is a pragmatist not an ideologue which makes him an arch enemy of both Party Establishments. He is an iconoclast. His actions, which appear chaotic and random, are in fact aimed squarely at battering the seams of the political hegemony of the last 50 years which cracking like breeched dam.
 

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Attempting to fulfill campaign promises and failing is far more noble than Trudeau's lying and doing the opposite.

Trudeau campaigned from the Left and is ruling from the Right.

Trump is sticking to what the voters asked for.

Yes making outlandish promises that will never come to fruition is noble.

Especially since Trudeau is delivering far better than Trump is.
 

tay

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The Republicans are getting most of what they want done. The media is fixated on Bills like Healthcare but the truth of it is most Republicans felt the cuts to Obamacare didn't go deep enough

They have basically reverted every other Obama instigated law otherwise.........
 

damngrumpy

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Yes the Republican Party is broken split into three or four groups. The Evangelicals
or Social Conservatives. The Tea Party far right, There is a party of NO and then
the fiscal middle of the road Conservatives. So what is the contrast?

The Democrats. A party leaderless and fragmented in every sense of the word. How
did this happen. The Democrats nominated one of the most despised people to lead,
The Republicans nominated the most bombastic person with no sense of experience
as to how government works.

Two parties went out of their way to nominate the two worst people for the job because
the were in an ideological deadlock Neither side gave a damn about the electorate and
both are paying the price. The struggle is going to be this The Republicans will be praying for
survival and the Democrats are on an exploration to find relevance and who suffers?
 

petros

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Life goes on. A correction was long overdue. When was the last time a citizen who represents the citizens made it to POTUS?
 

Curious Cdn

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Life goes on. A correction was long overdue. When was the last time a citizen who represents the citizens made it to POTUS?

Still waiting. This third generation millionaire, brought up in private schools and isolation from the hoy-polloy has suckered a lot of a angry, disappointed people into thinking that he is a man of the people.

The only Presidents of the last half century that came from humble or poor beginnings were Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. Jimmy Carter wasn't exactly a rich kid but his father was local landed gentry.Obama's parents were academics. All of the others were and are silver-spoon-in-their mouths richy-rich kids ... the current one, the richest and most privileged one yet.
 

Bar Sinister

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Still waiting. This third generation millionaire, brought up in private schools and isolation from the hoy-polloy has suckered a lot of a angry, disappointed people into thinking that he is a man of the people.

The only Presidents of the last half century that came from humble or poor beginnings were Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. Jimmy Carter wasn't exactly a rich kid but his father was local landed gentry.Obama's parents were academics. All of the others were and are silver-spoon-in-their mouths richy-rich kids ... the current one, the richest and most privileged one yet.


The problem with US politics is that it is entirely money based. You're not going to get many rag-to-riches presidents in a society where elections cost billions. However, I think you can include Obama in your humble list. His parents were certainly not overly wealthy by US standards.
 

Hoof Hearted

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Could be worse...

Your party is catastrophically broken and out of power, like the Democrats.
 

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There's no question the Democrats have actually benefitted from Trump winning.