The Pope Has Passed On

Jay

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Unfortunately Lady C the Free Masons aren’t the best way to discredit Bill. He said THEY shot Kennedy; that the plaza in which it happened was a Masonic temple. He has a video of the plaza etc.


It’s not that I believe or disbelieve Bill, it’s just the Free Masons have a vested interest in discrediting him.
 

Jo Canadian

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There are many local priests who make up their own beliefs. I even know one priest who "blessed" a couple that was living together but they didn't want to get married because it wasn't convenient.

These priests make things up as they go and don't follow the Church guidelines. It is almost impossible to control every single priest in every parish and some of their teachings to their congregations.

That is quite true, I wasn't implying that that mentality is to take effect around the Catlik world, nor that the Pope endorsed the situation. However in the end it just stems from personal interpretation of the belifes that would lead to something like this. It is unfortunate but every religion has that problem. In the end it doesn't make organized religion seem organized, even though they may try.
 

tibear

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Jo,

I agree with you that it is unfortunate and certainly doesn't paint the organization has unified.

Similar to rebel MP's who say something that isn't party platform.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: The Pope Has Passed O

They're going to ring the bells when they send up the white smoke this time around. That will remove the entertainment factor from it, making the process even duller than last time.

No more, "Wht colour is that smoke, Don?"
"Gee, I can't tell Mary. It looks grey."
"You'd think they could get that right after all the dead popes ther have been, Don."

The one fun thing about picking a new pope and they had to go screw it up.
 

LadyC

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Re: RE: The Pope Has Passed On

Jay said:
Unfortunately Lady C the Free Masons aren’t the best way to discredit Bill. He said THEY shot Kennedy; that the plaza in which it happened was a Masonic temple. He has a video of the plaza etc.


It’s not that I believe or disbelieve Bill, it’s just the Free Masons have a vested interest in discrediting him.
Of course they do. He claimed to be a member of DeMolay, giving him some insight into the FreeMasons. They're debunking a lot of his claims.

But either way, he's hardly a credible source.
 

tibear

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RB,

What do you care if they had Liturgical Dancers prancing in St Peter's Square when the smoke goes up??

Does it have any bearing on your life??
 

peapod

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Well yes tibear that would be very diffcult indeed. Thats why is a very good idea to keep religious beliefs out of government. The two can coexist without interference from the other.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: The Pope Has Passed O

I like to be entertained, tibear. Some dancers might be cool...you should put that in the Vatican Suggestion Box.
 

tibear

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RB,

I'll let you know when the Chrism Mass at St Mary's Cathedral is next year. They always have Liturgical dancers, incense, bells, the whole "show". You'll enjoy it. :)
 

Jay

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DeMolay......That’s the little boys branch of it I think.
Oh well.

"They're debunking a lot of his claims. "

They spend a lot of time debunking stuff.

If you read their side of the story you would believe they are angels from heaven; read others you would think they were demons.

My father in law wants me to join the Masons......I don't know If I'm ready to rule the world just yet. :wink:
 

mrmom2

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I suppose you believe the goverment and the corporate mass media on everything don't you Lady C?Where all conspiracy theorists right !Left wing nut jobs maybe even communists?What are you ?Globalist maybe?
 

LadyC

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Re: RE: The Pope Has Passed On

mrmom2 said:
I suppose you believe the goverment and the corporate mass media on everything don't you Lady C?Where all conspiracy theorists right !Left wing nut jobs maybe even communists?What are you ?Globalist maybe?
You're into labels, are you? Perhaps you'd also like to know how I voted in the last few elections?

Too funny. :wink:
 

Jay

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Re: RE: The Pope Has Passed On

LadyC said:
I think my uncle was one. A few of my aunts were Eastern Star... is that not the ladies' version? ;)


Ya it is, there's an eastern Star down the road from me.

I believe if you belong to the Eastern Star that means your husband must be a Mason.
 

LadyC

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What about the other way around? 2 of my aunts were Eastern Star, and they were sisters-in-law. (Dad's sister and his brother's wife). I know one uncle was a Mason (Dad's brother-in-law) but... hmmmm....

I might have to ask some questions. ;)
 

galianomama

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Again, your assertions are nice but please follow them up with proof that the Church and JP II in particular has told AIDS patients that they cannot use condoms

i thought that was pretty common knowledge from a few years ago. the head guy at the vatican had stated it, didn't he?

i am sure if you google it, you will see it in print.

interesting though, the fact that the world health organization and the catholic church are pretty much at odds over the health of woman. found that to be something to ponder. i had no idea that they (catholic church family organization) had it in for the world health guys. hmmmm......