The 'Official' Quit Picking On Trump Thread

Who Hates Trump the Most?

  • Dumbocrats

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Reptilicans

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Broads

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Canadians

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32

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The Inevitability Of Impeachment



The Inevitability Of Impeachment

Trump has been trying to govern by impulse, on whim, for personal retribution, for profit, by decree ― as if he had been elected dictator. It doesn’t work, and the wheels are coming off the bus. After a week!

Impeachment is gaining ground because it is the only way to get him out, and because Republicans are already deserting this president in droves, and because the man is psychiatrically incapable of checking whether something is legal before he does it.

Impeachment is gaining ground because it’s so horribly clear that Trump is unfit for office. The grownups around Trump, even the most slavishly loyal ones, spend half their time trying to rein him in, but it can’t be done.

They spend the other half fielding frantic calls from Republican chieftains, business elites and foreign leaders. Trump did what? Poor Reince Priebus has finally attained the pinnacle of power, and it can’t be fun.

It is one thing to live in your own reality when you are a candidate and it’s just words. You can fool enough of the people enough of the time maybe even to get elected. But when you try to govern that way, there is a reality to reality—and reality pushes back.

One by one, Trump has decreed impulsive orders, un-vetted by legal, policy, or political staff, much less by serious planning. Almost immediately he is forced to walk them back by a combination of political and legal pressure—and by reality.

Unlike in the various dictatorships Trump admires, the complex skein of constitutional legal and political checks on tyranny in the United States are holding—just barely at times, but they are holding. And the more reckless Trump’s behavior, the stronger become the checks.

Only with his lunatic effort to selectively ban refugees (but not from terrorist-sending countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt where Trump has business interests) has Trump discovered that the American system has courts. It has courts. Imagine that.

The more unhinged he becomes, the less will conservative judges be the toadies to ordinary Republican policies that they too often have been. Anybody want to wager that the Supreme Court will be Trump’s *****?

In the past week, Republicans from Mitch McConnell on down have tripped over each other rejecting his view of Putin. They have ridiculed his screwball claim of massive voter fraud.

They are running for cover on how to kill ObamaCare without killing patients or Republican re-election hopes. This is actually complicated, and nuance is not Trump’s strong suit. Rep Tom McClintock of California spoke for many when he warned:

“We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock. (R-Calif.)

“That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and we’ll be judged in the election less than two years away.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham, mocking Trump’s own nutty tweeting habits, sent out a tweet calling a trade war with Mexico “mucho sad.”

Trump’s own senior staff has had to pull him back from his ludicrous crusade against Mexico and Mexicans, where Trump forces the Mexican president to cancel an official visit one day, and spends an hour on the phone kissing up the next day.

Trump proposed to reinstate torture, but key Republican leaders killed that idea. Sen. John Thune (S.D.), the Senate’s third ranking Republican said Wednesday that the ban on torture was settled law and the Republicans in Congress would oppose any reinstatement. Trump’s own defense secretary holds the same view. After blustering out his new torture policy, Trump meekly agreed to defer to his defense advisers.

All this in just a week! Now capped by federal judges starting to rein him in.

Two weeks ago, in this space, just based on what we witnessed during the transition, I wrote a piece calling for a citizens impeachment panel, as a shadow House Judiciary Committee, to assemble a dossier for a Trump impeachment, and a citizens’ campaign to create a public impeachment movement.

In the two weeks since then, Free Speech for People has launched a citizens’ campaign to impeach Trump. About 400,000 people have already signed the impeachment petition.

The bipartisan group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, (CREW) has been conducting a detailed investigation. Senior legal scholars associated with CREW have filed a detailed legal brief in their lawsuit, documenting the several ways Trump is in violation of the Emoluments Clause, which prohibits a president from profiting from the actions of foreign governments.

There are already plenty of other grounds for impeachment, including Trump’s putting his own business interests ahead of the country’s and his weird and opportunistic alliance with Vladimir Putin bordering on treason. A lesser-known law that goes beyond the Emoluments Clause is the STOCK Act of 2012, which explicitly prohibits the president and other officials from profiting from non-public knowledge.

Impeachment, of course, is a political as well as a legal process. The Founders designed it that way deliberately. But after just a week in office, not only has Trump been deserting the Constitution; his partisan allies are deserting him.

Despite his creepy weirdness, Republicans at first thought they could use Trump for Republican ends. But from his embrace of Putin to his sponsorship of a general trade war, this is no Republican. One can only imagine the alarm and horror being expressed by Republicans privately.

In 1984, the psychiatrist Otto Kernberg described a sickness known as Malignant Narcissism. Unlike ordinary narcissism, malignant narcissism was a severe pathology.

It was characterized by an absence of conscience, a pathological grandiosity and quest for power, and a sadistic joy in cruelty.

Given the sheer danger to the Republic as well as to the Republicans, Trump’s impeachment will happen. The only question is how grave a catastrophe America faces first.

The Inevitability Of Impeachment | The Huffington Post
 

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heh...mostly elites playin' golf, fukkin' the dog and butt kissing for months after getting in.

Trump did more in a week, and meant it, than all those schmucks comined.

people don't like change. like fast change less.

it'll all be forgotten that much sooner along his presidency too.

new times pal, new times.

better get used to it.

The change that people who supported the Dumpster really want is jobs and a revival of the Rust Belt. I wonder when and if he will ever get around to that promise. Grandstanding by attacking the defenseless might buy him temporary support from racist idiots, but the demonstrations taking place across the US are very damaging. No US president in history has ever been able to survive without public support.
 

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I'm starting to feel bad for the Trumpites. It must be terribly difficult to have so much hope and promise when Trump got elected and then to realize that so many people view your opinions as so utterly vile that, at best, they'll be temporary until you're cast aside.
 

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Trump reaches majority disapproval in record time, poll shows

Funny how this keeps getting deleted while the Trudeau one stays.

Some leaders are more equal than others one guesses.


Trump reaches majority disapproval in record time, poll shows

A majority of Americans disapprove of President Donald Trump, according to a new Gallup poll.

As of Sunday, Trump's approval rating was at 42 percent compared to a disapproval rating of 51 percent. The numbers come just days after the White House issued a controversial executive order, banning immigration from seven predominately-Muslim countries and permanently stopping Syrian refugees from coming to the U.S.

The Gallup poll tracks daily approval ratings for Trump through a survey of 1,500 Americans.

The numbers reflect a record time for a president to receive a majority unfavorable rating, The Hill reported. Trump was sworn in Jan. 20, at which time his favorability rating was at 45 percent. It climbed to its highest point- 46 percent - on Jan. 25 and has fallen since then.

Former President Barack Obama had been in office two years before his disapproval rating reached 51 percent in 2011, Gallup tracking shows. President George W. Bush took office in 2001, his disapproval rating didn't exceed 50 percent until May 2004. President Bill Clinton's disapproval rating topped 50 percent six months into office.

Trump was the first elected president who initial approval ratings were below 50 percent, Gallup said. Trump also elicited the highest disapproval rating - 45 percent - of any new president.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.al.co...mp_reaches_majority_disappr.amp?client=safari
 

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Re: Trump reaches majority disapproval in record time, poll shows

Somebody keeps deleting your posts?
 
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Funny how in spite of all the anti-Trump movements the stock market keeps thriving. Apparently some people with a lot of money and clout have faith in his policies.
 

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Funny how in spite of all the anti-Trump movements the stock market keeps thriving. Apparently some people with a lot of money and clout have faith in his policies.
But of course the massive gains in the stock market during the Obama administration had NOTHING TO DO with Obama.
 

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Funny how in spite of all the anti-Trump movements the stock market keeps thriving. Apparently some people with a lot of money and clout have faith in his policies.

Look at Carrier. Trump loves giving taxpayer dollars to corporations. They'll do fine

But of course the massive gains in the stock market during the Obama administration had NOTHING TO DO with Obama.

There were no massive gains. That was just fake news
 

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Trump less popular after national election

*snark*

Trump reaches majority disapproval in record time, poll shows

A majority of Americans disapprove of President Donald Trump, according to a new Gallup poll.

As of Sunday, Trump's approval rating was at 42 percent compared to a disapproval rating of 51 percent. The numbers come just days after the White House issued a controversial executive order, banning immigration from seven predominately-Muslim countries and permanently stopping Syrian refugees from coming to the U.S.

A majority of Americans disapprove of President Donald Trump, according to a new Gallup poll.

As of Sunday, Trump's approval rating was at 42 percent compared to a disapproval rating of 51 percent. The numbers come just days after the White House issued a controversial executive order, banning immigration from seven predominately-Muslim countries and permanently stopping Syrian refugees from coming to the U.S.

The Gallup poll tracks daily approval ratings for Trump through a survey of 1,500 Americans.

The numbers reflect a record time for a president to receive a majority unfavorable rating, The Hill reported. Trump was sworn in Jan. 20, at which time his favorability rating was at 45 percent. It climbed to its highest point- 46 percent - on Jan. 25 and has fallen since then.

Former President Barack Obama had been in office two years before his disapproval rating reached 51 percent in 2011, Gallup tracking shows. President George W. Bush took office in 2001, his disapproval rating didn't exceed 50 percent until May 2004. President Bill Clinton's disapproval rating topped 50 percent six months into office.

Trump was the first elected president who initial approval ratings were below 50 percent, Gallup said. Trump also elicited the highest disapproval rating - 45 percent - of any new president.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.al.co...mp_reaches_majority_disappr.amp?client=safari
 

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President Trump's Honeymoon is Over

President Trump's Honeymoon is Over

President Trump's White House is struggling to right itself after a weekend of confusion and chaos over his executive order suspending refugee admissions and banning travel from seven Muslim-majority countries. Dozens were detained at airports for additional screening amid an internal administration dispute over whether the order applied to U.S. legal permanent residents. (The White House said it does, but then backtracked amid the furor. Now all green card holders are presumed to be granted a waiver to the order to enter the U.S.) The order sparked widespread protests for the second time in as many weeks. The White House defended the implementation of the order and blamed the confusion on the media, but Republican members of Congress were among their fiercest critics on the drafting and implementation. Trump's honeymoon is over.

Seeking to change the subject, Trump is moving up the timetable for his announcement of a Supreme Court Justice, tweeting Monday he will announce his pick at 8 p.m. on Tuesday. Expect the name to leak early. Given all the controversy, it remains to be seen how Senate Democrats will respond to the selection, and whether Senate Republicans will be forced to use the nuclear option—eliminating the filibuster entirely—in order to get Trump's pick through.

On Saturday, Trump shook up the National Security Council, elevating his top political aide, Stephen Bannon, to a regular slot on the NSC's Principals Committee. The reorganization also removed as regular members the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who will now only attend when their issue areas are up for discussion. It's a striking move to give Bannon, the White House chief strategist, a seat at the premier foreign policy decision-making table, but it reflects the former Breitbart CEO's increasingly large role within the White House.

President Trump's Honeymoon is Over | Time.com
 

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Re: President Trump's Honeymoon is Over

President Trump's Honeymoon is Over

President Trump's White House is struggling to right itself after a weekend of confusion and chaos over his executive order suspending refugee admissions and banning travel from seven Muslim-majority countries. Dozens were detained at airports for additional screening amid an internal administration dispute over whether the order applied to U.S. legal permanent residents. (The White House said it does, but then backtracked amid the furor. Now all green card holders are presumed to be granted a waiver to the order to enter the U.S.) The order sparked widespread protests for the second time in as many weeks. The White House defended the implementation of the order and blamed the confusion on the media, but Republican members of Congress were among their fiercest critics on the drafting and implementation. Trump's honeymoon is over.

Seeking to change the subject, Trump is moving up the timetable for his announcement of a Supreme Court Justice, tweeting Monday he will announce his pick at 8 p.m. on Tuesday. Expect the name to leak early. Given all the controversy, it remains to be seen how Senate Democrats will respond to the selection, and whether Senate Republicans will be forced to use the nuclear option—eliminating the filibuster entirely—in order to get Trump's pick through.

On Saturday, Trump shook up the National Security Council, elevating his top political aide, Stephen Bannon, to a regular slot on the NSC's Principals Committee. The reorganization also removed as regular members the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who will now only attend when their issue areas are up for discussion. It's a striking move to give Bannon, the White House chief strategist, a seat at the premier foreign policy decision-making table, but it reflects the former Breitbart CEO's increasingly large role within the White House.

President Trump's Honeymoon is Over | Time.com
Not according to eaglecrack. :). still got the bone on fo Troomp
 

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Funny how in spite of all the anti-Trump movements the stock market keeps thriving. Apparently some people with a lot of money and clout have faith in his policies.


I would guess Yes and No. A lot of it has to do with demand and I would guess for some commodities the demand doesn't depend what the president is doing. Maybe when the president is acting like an A$$hole the booze sales go up. There's always a demand for bread and butter!
 

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Donald Trump's first US military raid kills 30 civilians, including children

Donald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians, including 10 women and children'

The eight-year-old daughter of a radical preacher was among a large group of civilians reportedly killed during a US dawn raid in Yemen, the first military operation overseen by Donald Trump.

Around 30 people, including 10 women and children, are thought to have been killed by American military personnel in the rural Yakla district of al-Bayda in the south of the country, according to medical staff.

Nora Al-Awlaki, the daughter of lecturer and al-Qaeda sympathiser Anwar al-Awlaki who was killed in an airstrike in 2011, was one of those who lost their lives, her grandfather Nasser said.

“Why kill children? This is the new [US] administration - it’s very sad, a big crime,” Nasser Al-Awlaki said. “[Nora] was hit with a bullet in her neck and suffered for two hours.” The Pentagon did not refer to any civilian casualties in its statement.

The US military meanwhile confirmed 14 al-Qaeda fighters had been killed in the raid, and a further two in a drone strike on central Yemen later in the day. An American commando was killed in retaliation, and three others injured.

"The operation began at dawn when a drone bombed the home of Abdulraoof al-Dhahab and then helicopters flew up and unloaded paratroopers at his house and killed everyone inside," said one anonymous resident, in an account of the incident corroborated by Yemeni security staff.

"Next, the gunmen opened fire at the U.S. soldiers who left the area, and the helicopters bombed the gunmen and a number of homes and led to a large number of casualties."

In a statement, Mr Trump said he was “saddened” to hear of the death of the US commando, who “was taken in our fight against the evil of radical Islamic terrorism”. Numerous raids on Yemeni targets were carried out throughout the tenure of his predecessor Barack Obama.

Donald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians, including 10 women and children' | The Independent