LOLLLLLLLLL are you joking? He wouldnt last in my bedroom!
I'm sencing a challenge...
I'll bite, lol!!!
I know it comes from evil, from Satan and that its function is to turn people away from God and Holy Mother Church. I know it is a belief system based on narcisstic pleasures and is, for the most part, made up. I see you do not fit the general category of its membership. However, for the most part paganism appeals to those with low self-esteem and intelligence. It denies God because it is afraid of Him.
Proof pplease???
Or did you just make this shyte up with pretty lil bigoted mind???
Your words only confirms the evil in paganism. It is self-made and self created. It appeals to people with no direction who prefer to satisfy their own interests instead of conforming and reforming themselves into decent people.
Hardly a Christian fault! The Church is geared to life, and you surely must know that.
It isn't just made up hunny, I have heard the streams talk, the trees wisper and giggle. I feel the energy rocks contain. You're to wrapped up in BS to feel anything substantial. You should give it a try!!!
If the neo-pagan is hardened and hostile to monotheism, one might forcefully and bluntly point out the problems of paganism.
"Why," one might ask, "should you worship such impotent deities? If they couldn’t protect their former worshipers at the heights of their powers, then how can they be trusted to protect you now?"
One might also pose the question, "Why was it that the followers of the ancient paganisms became Christian in the first place? What was it that they found deficient in paganism that led them to reject it and trust in Christ instead?"
I can answer all of that with...
The ones that held stead fast to the belief died atthe hands of Christians...
Can you tell me howmany Christians have died at the hands of Pagans.
I can tell you why it happened, Sanctus. It happened through blood-shed. Your religion, you peaceful and loving christians, drowned my land in blood. The population of whole towns was slaughtered if they refused to convert to christianity, and that is a historical fact. That is why no surviving Pagan liturgies remain. Recently I read a scientific historical work, published in the 1970s, when all kinds of religion were considered "opium for the people" in my country, so it is in no way biased. And it said that when a Volkhv appeared in Novgorod about a century after the conversion to christianity, the official sent what would now be called a regiment to kill him. A regiment against just one person! He never had a chance. Christianity never faced such persecution. Your religion is soaked in blood. Remember the holy inquisition? Remember the crusades? And what about the native peoples in the Americans? Your christian peace-loving missionaries completely destroyed some of them. And after that you have the nerve to say that Paganism demands the blood of the innocent? Really, Sanctus, as we say in Russia, insolence is the second happiness. The first one, for many people.
Deities are one thing, their followers are another. If you remove the rulers and the spiritual leaders of a nation by force, the remaining people will be scattered and helpless. That is what happened in my country.
People mostly want to live, you know. No one wants to get killed.
Ya what she said!!!
The constant refrain of the neo-pagans, reminding us of blots on Church history. Hardly relevant for today's world. Who cares about the Crusades? I wasn't part of them. I consider neo-paganism a dangerous and evil system of beliefs that has its roots in self-centred modes of thought. It is a recent development born out of the 1960's "do your own thing" generation. Its' purpose is nothing more than creating fantasy and following what you FEEL like doing. Hardly an endorsement for rational religious belief systems.
Of course we point out the flaws in your history, you point out what you see as flaws with our religion, why should we not???
If fact, I charge that the church has far more
contemporary blood on its hands, then the whole of the Pagan history.
Communism and paganism share the same foundation, both seek to deny God and create a human-centred system of beliefs. We have seen how successful communism was. Praise God it is on the delcine in our world!
This is where your lack of knowledge has led you to you ignorance.
We identify with a Great Spirit, and therefore identify with the manifestation of that spirit in ALL things. A failing of the church.
Abortion on demand, no-fault divorce, legal prostitution, decriminalising homosexuality, government approved pornography spread abroad by a homosexual film censor, legal casinos and other invasive forms of gambling are just the tip of the iceberg and represent the cold breath of death of what once was a decent society. Secondly, the PC mindthink not only represents a break with the traditional values of the past, but equally the shattering of our Christian culture. There are essentially two streams in our society. There are those who believe in foundational Christian values; like thrift, hard work, assisting the poor and disadvantaged, maintaining a society free of moral evil and temptation for the younger generation and seeking to have an influence for good wherever there is opportunity. You will find that Christians out-give to the poor and needy over any other group in our society.
The other stream which more resembles a seeping sore are those who have imbibed the discredited theory of evolution; that man is just a more highly developed form of animal who has no soul and whose object in life is to find sensual happiness. The latter example really represents a new kind of paganism, a neo-paganism. A pagan can be defined as one “professing no religion; heathen”. A pagan can also be defined as a “hedonist”. The only apparent unlawful activities for the neo-pagan are those which could hurt another individual. In other words the neo-pagan would presumably not sanction paedophilia, because children would be damaged. Nonetheless the pagan conveniently withholds “personhood” from a baby still in his mother's womb, so that abortion is something the hedonist asserts does not harm a human being.
Ya ok, listen up bigot, put up some proof of your BS.
You ain't got shyte, just the thumpings of a bigot that couldn't get his head around the truth if it fell out of the sky landed on his face and started to wiggle.
If you had your way, we would have Christianity thrust on us, in us, at us and so on. That's fascism, another failing of the Church.
i was kinda dancing around with paganism, reading stuff self sent me and whatever. but honestly it kinda freaked me out cos it seems too bizzare a religious group and one of the members here who is a pagan i am sad to say i am feling is very negative all the time so it kinda made me realize that this person wasnt happy and maybe it was because of this pagan stuff. catholics ive met sofar see pretty content. i started going to catholic church and theyre really friendly and welcoming.and the priest says i can sign up for something called an rcia.
You were kinda dancing around with no thoughts is more like it. Ever thought of examining the context of someones pain and or suffering?
I doubt it, by your posts I gather you have the depth of a bottle cap.
Discredited? By whom? When? I must have missed that. It's one of the great unifying ideas and one of the best attested, most firmly established theories in science, as firmly established as the heliocentric theory of the solar system. No reasonable person with any real knowledge of it doubts it. Even the previous Pope, in a weasely sort of way, accepted it.
Dex, that about sums it up!!!
Look, there is nothing wrong with isolating sources of evil in society, and paganism is one of the main evils afflicting many of our young people today.
No one of the main evils of modern society is Evangelism, much like the Church, it is ripe with the fruits of the labours of the religious elite, subjugating the masses of sheeple to follow or be burned. Either you get it or you don't...
You don't. Breath in... breath out.
Really Hermann! But yet you and some others do not mind scorning Catholic beliefs!
If you noticed sanctus, no one jumps up the Churches collective ass, until you(being a Church rep) come out and start smaking our beliefs. If you can't stand the heat...
Stop sinning!!!
THIS is why I ignored this thread in the first place. But when I didnt take the bait the Priests harpies started a fire. I want everyone to notice the players in this drama. Priest starts thread, certain members stir the pot and others react. Im making wages that there are at least 3 "parishioners" of the priest's "church" that are members of this site.
Christions will always hate Pagans because deep down they have guilty conscious' about past lives thats why the scour so much. So light a candle for justice and one for clarity and another forforgivemess. Imbloc is coming and the Goddess will be full and loving.
The Great Spirit smiled on me, I have lived as a Warrior, all the while admiring the beauty in all religions.
I wish Christians were as tolerant.
