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But that is now infringing on rights and freedoms, for there is a right to be gay, there also should be a right to serve whomever in one's business. Would anything been said if the baker refused to serve a crackhead I think not.



Sigh.


Take your discriminatory thinking to the logical max and see if it works.


If a business puts a no gays, no-blacks, and no women allowed sign within that business, do you think that freedom should be allowed?
Bearing in mind that these are business open to the public and are licenced by the state.


Should discrimination not have a just cause? Should a government issue a licence to operate to businesses that discriminate without a just cause?


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So you didn't like the answers from yesterday so we better rehash it?



I have acknowledged that some countries do use Jesus but that the majority of Christians do not do so.


I still seek the answer as to why that lack of respect happens.


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Sigh.


Take your discriminatory thinking to the logical max and see if it works.


If a business puts a no gays, no-blacks, and no women allowed sign within that business, do you think that freedom should be allowed?
Bearing in mind that these are business open to the public and are licenced by the state.


Should discrimination not have a just cause? Should a government issue a licence to operate to businesses that discriminate without a just cause?


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DL

Yes the discriminated parties have the right to take their business someplace else or boycott said business and if the majority agree said business will no longer exist due to lack of business. Plain and simple without legally forcing the State's will onto someone without a majority of consent, that is not a democratic solution.

I have acknowledged that some countries do use Jesus but that the majority of Christians do not do so.


I still seek the answer as to why that lack of respect happens.


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Why do they have to? What religion do you belong to and what is you're name?
 

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Yes the discriminated parties have the right to take their business someplace else or boycott said business and if the majority agree said business will no longer exist due to lack of business. Plain and simple without legally forcing the State's will onto someone without a majority of consent, that is not a democratic solution.



Eh. The majority, which you have just added to the issue, have already decided not to discriminate against gays in the West. Right?


So it seems that you are now reversing your position.


So which is it? Does the state have the right to impose and enforce anti-discrimination laws or not?


Should bakeries be forced to serve gays or not? If not, then what is the just cause to discriminate against gays?


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Why do they have to? What religion do you belong to and what is you're name?



They do not have to. I never said they did.


I am a Gnostic Christian and my name is the same as my God's; I am, and yes I mean me.
I created him just as all people construct the image of their Gods in their minds.


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To get down to the basic question you are asking, you wonder why SOME Christians don't use the given name 'Jesus', while others do.


Is that what you're asking?
 

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To get down to the basic question you are asking, you wonder why SOME Christians don't use the given name 'Jesus', while others do.


Is that what you're asking?


Not quite.


I am asking why so many Muslims give respect to the name Mohammad, while so many Christians do not with the name Jesus, knowing that all cultures that I know of pass up names out of respect.


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Not quite.


I am asking why so many Muslims give respect to the name Mohammad, while so many Christians do not with the name Jesus, knowing that all cultures that I know of pass up names out of respect.


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Leaving aside the fact that, as we have demonstrated, many Christian cultures do use the names "Jesus" and "Christ" in various forms, and going strictly on your fantasy that it doesn't happen, perhaps the reason that some Christian cultures don't use "Jesus" as a man's personal name is that, according to Christians, Jesus was a god, and according to Muslims, Mohammed was a man.

That said, feel free to slobber and spit your theory, which we have demonstrated is based on your hate, not on facts and interpretations thereof.
 

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Leaving aside the fact that, as we have demonstrated, many Christian cultures do use the names "Jesus" and "Christ" in various forms, and going strictly on your fantasy that it doesn't happen, perhaps the reason that some Christian cultures don't use "Jesus" as a man's personal name is that, according to Christians, Jesus was a god, and according to Muslims, Mohammed was a man.

That said, feel free to slobber and spit your theory, which we have demonstrated is based on your hate, not on facts and interpretations thereof.


Why do you try so hard to be such a dumb prick?


But in case you can actually discuss without your personal garbage, I will give you this one reply before I put you back on ignore.


So you are saying that Christians think that a God can die.


That rather kills the notion of God being eternal. No?


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Why do you try so hard to be such a dumb prick?
Not hard enough to deny objective reality in pursuit of my hatred.


But in case you can actually discuss without your personal garbage, I will give you this one reply before I put you back on ignore.


So you are saying that Christians think that a God can die.


That rather kills the notion of God being eternal. No?


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I'm no more interested in their fairy tale/revenge fantasy than I am in yours. But I would note that the notion of the death and rebirth of gods is common among the world's cultures. At least this world, though not necessarily the one in your head.
 

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Eh. The majority, which you have just added to the issue, have already decided not to discriminate against gays in the West. Right?


So it seems that you are now reversing your position.


So which is it? Does the state have the right to impose and enforce anti-discrimination laws or not?


Should bakeries be forced to serve gays or not? If not, then what is the just cause to discriminate against gays?


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DL

My answer has nothing to do with being gay it was in response by any imposed sanctions on a private business, let the market dictate what is right or wrong let government place guidelines.
 

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Some Christians are oddly fussy about saying the names 'God' and 'Jesus'. It used to be common to see 'G-d' in print.


Probably some repressive thing that came out of Puritanical England.
 

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Some Christians are oddly fussy about saying the names 'God' and 'Jesus'. It used to be common to see 'G-d' in print.


Probably some repressive thing that came out of Puritanical England.
Or a carryover from Judaism.

I ordinarily leave FP alone, but his insistence that he's a deep theologian and spiritual philosopher occasionally demands that I participate in pointing out that he possesses neither logic, nor scientific method, nor argumentation skills, and that his Deep Thoughts are typically based on what the Trump administration calls "alternative facts."
 

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My answer has nothing to do with being gay it was in response by any imposed sanctions on a private business, let the market dictate what is right or wrong let government place guidelines.


The government has set a guideline that says that discrimination without a just cause is illegal, regardless of who is victimized.


The market place was not created to determine right and wrong. Governments were.


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Some Christians are oddly fussy about saying the names 'God' and 'Jesus'. It used to be common to see 'G-d' in print.


Probably some repressive thing that came out of Puritanical England.



The only people I see using G-d are Jews.


It looks like a hold over from these days.


https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI


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Yes the discriminated parties have the right to take their business someplace else or boycott said business and if the majority agree said business will no longer exist due to lack of business. Plain and simple without legally forcing the State's will onto someone without a majority of consent, that is not a democratic solution.
So? Well, let's keep the state out of business, shall we? No licensing, no zoning, no health and safety inspections. Because if a restaurant kills people with food poisoning, that's just the market, right?

Oh, and while we're at it, no police or firefighters. Wouldn't want the state to oppress your bakery if it's robbed or burned down.

Or we could do it the way we figured out decades ago, until a bunch of bible-bashing retards decided to re-impose their religion on everybody else. And that is you may discriminated against anybody you like in your church, but when you enter the stream of commerce you will abide by the rules of commerce.
 

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I think it is as all Christians run from that discussion on moral grounds.


What evil do you think keeps Christians from using Jesus the way Muslims use Mohammad if not genocide.


Or if not for that evil, why are Christians not using the name Jesus?


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DL
Think of all the people who named their kids after John the Baptist.

M't:11:11:
Verily I say unto you,
Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:
notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.