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[YukonJack]

eanassir, don't forget that in Muslim countries THE most popular spectator sport is seeing someone whipped, stoned, extremities amputated and/or beheaded. Thousands gather on any public square or stadium to watch the glorious spectacle. Added bonus is if the victim is a woman.

Pregnant woman lashed 200 times by Afghani Taliban then shot in the head.

 

[Cliffy]

Like the Jews who did not recognize the messiah when he arrived, the Muslims missed the Mehdi when he arrived. Sorry dude, but like other major religions, you guys missed the boat. The awaited one has come and gone. Mohammed Ali kicked butt and you missed the show.

 

[petros]

Either it matters or it does not matter. You can only deal with what matters while your spirit is stuck in matter. When you die you will learn all about what does not matter.

It is all in your book on how the ride a bicycle.

The book is a guide to prepare you for the shock of what does not matter while riding your bicycle.

 

[Cliffy]

Either it matters or it does not matter. You can only deal with what matters while your spirit is stuck in matter. When you die you will learn all about what does not matter.

It is all in your book on how the ride a bicycle.

The book is a guide to prepare you for the shock of what does not matter while riding your bicycle.

That is a matter of opinion. How come these bike riding manuals don't deal much with actually riding a bike, but mostly what happens when the bike no longer matters?

 

[petros]

That is a matter of opinion. How come these bike riding manuals don't deal much with actually riding a bike, but mostly what happens when the bike no longer matters?

You can only ride the bicycle if matter is in cyclical motion rather than linear.

 

[eanassir]

eanassir, don't forget that in Muslim countries THE most popular spectator sport is seeing someone whipped, stoned, extremities amputated and/or beheaded. Thousands gather on any public square or stadium to watch the glorious spectacle. Added bonus is if the victim is a woman.

In all my life time I have not seen anything of that.

Although you as a religion enemy and some West newspapers are not confidential sources, but evenso I give the following comment:

Some people in the name of the Islam give decisions that are not Islamic in fact and they act in a way that Prophet Mohammed himself did not do such acts.

If truly the woman was pregnant she should have been postponed until she gives labor to her baby, before punishing her.
In addition, there must be the witnesses required.
Moreover, the 200 lashes are the wrong thing. It is 100 lashes for the non-married adulterer.

Yes, there is certainly a brutality and transgressing the bound of the Law of God as in the Quran, but don't forget there is also political and other religions exploiting this and maybe telling people something different.

And I tell you the wrong-doing will go away as the enemy of God and the Islam enemy will disappear; this is a guaranty, written in the Psalms of Prophet David and in the Quran.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Although you as a religion enemy....

We're not your enemies eanassir, we just think you're wrong.

 

[eanassir]

We're not your enemies eanassir, we just think you're wrong.

Dexter, I didn't say that you are my enemies; and you will discover sooner or later that God's religion is the truth, and I am not wrong.

(Say [Mohammed, to them]: "I only advise you to one [point]: to be concerned about [discerning the religion of] God; [and to go for this purpose] two by two and one by one, then to think [and realize] that there is no madness in your man [: Mohammed]; he is only a warner to you [of a punishment] by the hands [of angels] of severe chastisement.

Say [Mohammed, to them]: "I do not demand of you any recompense [for conveying the message]; that is yours; I demand my recompense of God only; He is Witness of all things [: All-Hearing and All-Seeing.]"

Say: "Surely, my Lord does hurl the true [: Quran with the angels against the falsehood]; [He is God] the All-Knowing of the unknown forefuture."

Say: "The true [religion] has come; and the false [gods: the idols] cannot begin [the creation from earth or dust] nor can return [it again to dust.]"

Say: "If I err [from the truth as you claim] then [the sin of] my erring is only against my soul, and if I have

guidance then that is according to what my Lord reveals to me; He is All-Hearing, Ever-Nigh.")​

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This is in the Quran 34: 46-50
قُلْ إِنَّ رَبِّي يَقْذِفُ بِالْحَقِّ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ
قُلْ جَاء الْحَقُّ وَمَا يُبْدِئُ الْبَاطِلُ وَمَا يُعِيدُ​

 

[YukonJack]

In all my life time I have not seen anything of that.

Although you as a religion enemy and some West newspapers are not confidential sources, but evenso I give the following comment:

Some people in the name of the Islam give decisions that are not Islamic in fact and they act in a way that Prophet Mohammed himself did not do such acts.

If truly the woman was pregnant she should have been postponed until she gives labor to her baby, before punishing her.
In addition, there must be the witnesses required.
Moreover, the 200 lashes are the wrong thing. It is 100 lashes for the non-married adulterer.

Yes, there is certainly a brutality and transgressing the bound of the Law of God as in the Quran, but don't forget there is also political and other religions exploiting this and maybe telling people something different.

And I tell you the wrong-doing will go away as the enemy of God and the Islam enemy will disappear; this is a guaranty, written in the Psalms of Prophet David and in the Quran.

eanassir, you are a typical cruel, sadistic, worthless, pathetic MUSLIM. Hypocritical, as well.

You try to prove to the world that you and and your ilk are nice and just by saying that 100 strokes of a whip, administered by a bloodthirsty subhuman piece of crap is appropriate for an adulterer. What business is of yours or any mental cripple like you, what a person does in his/her private life?

The people who deserve not 100, not 200 lashes, but any number until death is creeps like you.

Any religion - and I use the word loosely - that not only tolerates, but promotes cruelty that any and all civilized societies have outgrown 200 years ago, could have only been spawned by Satan, and his favourite baby, Mohammed.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

... you will discover sooner or later that God's religion is the truth, and I am not wrong.

You will discover sooner or later that god's religion is fiction and you're completely wrong, nothing will turn out as you expect in the next life, because there isn't one. This is all we get.

 

[eanassir]

You will discover sooner or later that god's religion is fiction and you're completely wrong, nothing will turn out as you expect in the next life, because there isn't one. This is all we get.

Either we or you are on right guidance or in manifest error.

(Say: "Who provides you [with provision] from the heavens and the earth?" Say: "God [it is Who provides you],
and you will see whether I or you are on guidance or in obvious error.")

The above between brackets is in the Quran 34: 24
قُلْ مَن يَرْزُقُكُم مِّنَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ قُلِ اللَّهُ وَإِنَّا أَوْ إِيَّاكُمْ لَعَلَى هُدًى أَوْ فِي ضَلَالٍ مُّبِينٍ

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eanassir, you are a typical cruel, sadistic, worthless, pathetic MUSLIM. Hypocritical, as well.

You try to prove to the world that you and and your ilk are nice and just by saying that 100 strokes of a whip, administered by a bloodthirsty subhuman piece of crap is appropriate for an adulterer. What business is of yours or any mental cripple like you, what a person does in his/her private life?

The people who deserve not 100, not 200 lashes, but any number until death is creeps like you.

Any religion - and I use the word loosely - that not only tolerates, but promotes cruelty that any and all civilized societies have outgrown 200 years ago, could have only been spawned by Satan, and his favourite baby, Mohammed.

From the start, you were against God and against the Quran, and you are the obvious enemy of God and the Quran.

Anyhow, what is the punishment of the adulterer (who commits adultery) according to the Torah or Law of Moses?

I ask you also: to ask yourself: who is the enemy of mankind and of every good on Earth? Who is the enemy of Jesus and Mohammed and even of Moses? Who stirs enmity and sedition everywhere in the World specially against Muslims everywhere and every time?

Their Rebellion against Their Prophet

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Either we or you are on right guidance or in manifest error.

(Say: "Who provides you [with provision] from the heavens and the earth?" Say: "God [it is Who provides you],
and you will see whether I or you are on guidance or in obvious error.")

The above between brackets is in the Quran 34: 24

You'll never convince me of anything by using the presumed authority of the Quran, that means nothing to me. I read and rejected it years ago as a useful guide to anything interesting or important, and the use you make of it as a scientific authority has not improved my opinion of it. It's boringly repetitive, not very original, not very coherent, and if your scientific claims based on it are any indication, it's full of errors.

 

[eanassir]

You'll never convince me of anything by using the presumed authority of the Quran, that means nothing to me. I read and rejected it years ago as a useful guide to anything interesting or important, and the use you make of it as a scientific authority has not improved my opinion of it. It's boringly repetitive, not very original, not very coherent, and if your scientific claims based on it are any indication, it's full of errors.

According to your way of deduction, no one can convince anyone.

I gave you the idea and you refused to consider on pretext that it is derived from the Quran; and so what: discuss then this idea derived from the Quran.

I tell you: I only discuss the arguments of the Glorious Quran. The one who receives the Quran, he is the God-fearing and is then guided, and the one who refuses it is not any God-fearing and will lose.

Therefore see this:
(Therefore, admonish [people with the Quran]; for it may be that the admonition will profit [some of the people.]

>> And he will receive the admonition, who fears [God's punishment.]

>> But the most wretched shall flout the [admonition],
He who shall roast in the great fire.
Then he shall neither die therein [and get rid of the torment], nor live [a comfortable life, so he will long for death, but cannot die, because he will be a soul.])


The above between brackets is the meaning of the Quran 87: 9-13

فَذَكِّرْ إِن نَّفَعَتِ الذِّكْرَى .سَيَذَّكَّرُ مَن يَخْشَى .وَيَتَجَنَّبُهَا الْأَشْقَى .الَّذِي يَصْلَى النَّارَ الْكُبْرَى .ثُمَّ لَا يَمُوتُ فِيهَا وَلَا يَحْيَى​

In addition, there are other marvelous ayat with the same implication that the Quran should be used as a program for inviting people to God and to the exclusive devotion to God alone without associate; because the Quran will defeat the disbeliever.

quran-ayat.co

 

[Dexter Sinister]

According to your way of deduction, no one can convince anyone.

That's absurd. All you need to do is produce the evidence that supports your claims. You haven't done so because there isn't any, in fact all available evidence says your claims are wrong. All you've got is the logically invalid argument from the authority of the Quran. That's not evidence, in a discussion of science it doesn't count, it's worth nothing.

 

[eanassir]

Read the rest of my reply: it is the answer.

 

[Cliffy]

Read the rest of my reply: it is the answer.

It is still nonsense. Although I admire your unshakable faith, I can't help wondering just how much you will be disappointed when you die and find out you wasted you life on nonsense. Life is for living now, not in some nebulous future after life. From all you have posted, you live in a fantasy world of make believe.

 

[petros]

It is still nonsense. Although I admire your unshakable faith, I can't help wondering just how much you will be disappointed when you die and find out you wasted you life on nonsense. Life is for living now, not in some nebulous future after life. From all you have posted, you live in a fantasy world of make believe.

The language of God is hidden in the Vedas, Book of the Dead, Torah, Talmud, OT/NT and Quran. Science has it's roots in those books and those books have their roots in science.

 

[Cliffy]

The language of God is hidden in the Vedas, Book of the Dead, Torah, Talmud, OT/NT and Quran. Science has it's roots in those books and those books have their roots in science.

I realize that, but it s not in the literal translation. It is hidden from the uninitiated for a reason. A person has to earn the right to know the truth.
...One is reminded of a story told in many sources in your culture. A students asks the teacher every day, "How can I know God?" And the teacher replies, "Through desire." And the student says, "I do not understand, how can I know God?" And the teacher responds, "Through desire," and so goes for many long times. And one day teacher and student are swimming in the river together and teacher suddenly reaches forward and grabs the student and holds him underneath the water. And the students arms are flailing and his feet are flailing, and he is trying desperately to get above into the air, and just as he cannot stand it any longer the teacher releases him. He comes forward for a big breath, "Why teacher did you do this to me?" And teacher says, "When you have desire for spirit as intense as the desire you just had for air, then you will know God."

 

[petros]

I doubt EA is an E.A.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Read the rest of my reply: it is the answer.

No it's not, it's just another citation from the Quran, which I've pointed out to you many times is not evidence, it's the argument from authority fallacy, but you don't seem able to grasp that.