The Liberals are Wagging the Dog

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And have been since Trump was elected.

Oh no, 51st state! Trump is talking about taking over Canada! Only we can save you!

The fact of the matter is that the president of the United States is a shoot-from-the-hip guy who enjoys watching people run around with their hair on fire, and the Liberals never saw a single crisis they didn't want to capitalize on. Trump acts like your typical internet troll, and the Liberals act like Chicken Little. Trudeau was out telling business leaders to take the 51st state thing seriously, and that seems to be the message his successor and rank and file are carrying.

The Canadian government has been in a constant state of crisis. I don't know if it started with the pandemic, but they have been in crisis mode since.

The Liberals attacked the Canadian military, stating that there was an epidemic of misogyny and predatory men raping women. The media gobbled this up and in the process, they accused a lot of soldiers and ruined their careers, demoted them, or just smeared their names enough to fuck their careers. A general my son served under in Afghanistan was attacked by the Liberals and the media for playing golf with the Chief of Defense Staff, General Vance. Vance had had an extramarital affair with an American major, not even in the same military, but ME TOO baby, and what was a domestic issue became political. The general, who had golfed with Vance, his friend of 20-plus years, said, "Fuck this," and took his voluntary release. He didn't want his family subjected to the same abuse as the other families who were caught up in the political witch hunt and reckless journalism.

Similarly, the RCMP were subjected to the same national smearing. The number of incidents did not warrant the outrage or the coverage, but institutions where the members aren't allowed to speak out have always been a personal whipping post for Liberals. It's easy to beat down someone who can't speak publically against their government. I know there were a few bad apples, but why not smear them all? That's what the Chretien Liberals did to us over the Somalia scandal; they labeled us all racist because of five guys. I remember going Christmas shopping with my son, who was six or seven, and in the parking lot, I was called out as a racist and called on by four aboriginal fellas to throw down. I put my son in the car and drove back to the base.

You have to ask yourself, What positive things have the Trudeau Liberals done for Canada?"
  • They did legalize weed
And now for the bad stuff:
  1. They have messed our military capabilities up so severely, just to get them back to pre-2015 status would require borrowing on our national debt into the 100s of billions. Our jets are fifty-plus years old. In the history of Canada, only one government has stripped its military of its equipment, giving it to another nation with no intention of rearming them and cutting the operating budget by a billion, and that is the Justin Trudeau government.
  2. They legalized hard drugs, causing addiction to explode in Canada, creating a black market system for entrepreneur gang members to redistribute.
  3. We now have cartels working in Canada cooking up Fentanyl.
  4. They have caused an affordability crisis by borrowing money to buy special interest votes.
  5. They invited a million people into our country with nowhere to put them, causing a significant housing crisis.
  6. They gave us the Carbon tax, which did nothing to advance R&D for alternative energy or lower global temperatures but became a burden on the middle class and poor.
  7. They have been riddled with scandals from Aga Khan to JWB to WE and the juggernaut of them all, the Green Slush fund.
  8. They ignored foreign meddling in our electoral system and still have not handed over unredacted documents. Instead, settling for a white-wash Liberal Inquiry.
  9. They lied about the vaccines, pitting Canadians against Canadians. [AN MNRA DOES NOT SUPPRESS TRANSMISSION OR STOP YOU FROM GETTING or GIVING COVID] Don't believe me? Look it up. But that didn't stop them from saying that Canadians who didn't want to be immunized were perpetuating the pandemic. It didn't stop them from mandating vaccines in the military and cross-border trucking. The Canadian truckers from all over Canada who descended on Ottawa in protest were called misogynist fringe, far right, possibly Neo Nazis. I suspect that the nazi flag was a Liberal plan to bolster the message that "Honk honk means Heil Hitler," which was coined by Liberal Canadian MP Ya'ara Saks while debating the Emergencies Act . This was going on while the protest was winding down. Police had negotiated a peaceful withdrawal, which was underway, but the Liberals needed their crisis and with the help of Jagmeet Singh and the NDP, voted to enact the Emergencies Act. They arrested the leaders and held them while freezing the bank accounts of many supporters. Tamara Lich was arrested for a mischief charge on February 17, 2022. Justice Julie Bourgeois denied her application for bail on February 22, 2022, citing Lich was a flight risk and she didn't know who Lich was working for. (EYE FUCKING ROLL) Diane Magas, defense lawyer for Lich, expressed concern about the neutrality of Justice Bourgeois on the basis that she ran for a federal Liberal party seat in 2011. Her denial of bail was protested in Ottawa. On March 7, 2022, the bail denial was overturned.
  10. Ignored Palestinian protesters in Canada who have torched buildings, shot up Jewish girls' schools and synagogues, and harassed JEws in their neighborhoods.

There's more, but isn't it enough that they have never balanced their budget once during their entire tenure in power?
If you're wondering how costs doubled, see printing money.

The country is a mess, and Carney is lipstick on a pig.
 
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It’s working though, even with their track record, & even with Trudeau still leading them, & with the sham Liberal Party leadership race for Trudeau’s selected replacement to be coronated in a few weeks to become the Canadian Prime Minister without a Federal election taking place…
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(These are just some of the Trudeau Cabinet Ministers endorsing Carney ‘cuz he’s such an ‘outsider’…even though they’ve all worked with Freeland for years)

…all while Parliament is still prorogued so the Liberals can avoid providing documents on their Green Slush Fund contradicting the speaker of the house’s order…
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This is all with Mark Carney not announcing his platform, or as of yet having a seat in Parliament as an MP, or even being involved in a leadership debate for the Liberal party (there will be two eventually, and both will take place in Montreal because Montreal)…
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Trump being Trump has been an absolute gift to the Trudeau Liberals (soon to be the Carney/Trudeau Liberals, I guess).
(For Tec, YouTube & “What’s behind the shift in polls? A look at the latest federal numbers | CTV Question Period”)
 
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The Canadian truckers from all over Canada who descended on Ottawa in protest were called misogynist fringe, far right, possibly Neo Nazis. I suspect that the nazi flag was a Liberal plan to bolster the message that "Honk honk means Heil Hitler," which was coined by Liberal Canadian MP Ya'ara Saks while debating the Emergencies Act .
Several Conservative MPs are criticizing the Crown's approach to prosecuting two key organizers of the "Freedom Convoy" protests, with the party's deputy leader calling it an act of "political vengeance."

Tamara Lich and Chris Barber were convicted of Mischief in April for their roles in organizing the demonstration, which blockaded streets around Parliament Hill for more than three weeks in early 2022.
This was going on while the protest was winding down. Police had negotiated a peaceful withdrawal, which was underway, but the Liberals needed their crisis and with the help of Jagmeet Singh and the NDP, voted to enact the Emergencies Act. They arrested the leaders and held them while freezing the bank accounts of many supporters. Tamara Lich was arrested for a mischief charge on February 17, 2022.
Lich has posted on social media that the Crown is seeking a sentence of seven years for her and eight years for Barber.

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre posted on X today comparing the proposed sentences to other offences that came with less severe punishments, asking, "How is this justice?"
Justice Julie Bourgeois denied her application for bail on February 22, 2022, citing Lich was a flight risk and she didn't know who Lich was working for. (EYE FUCKING ROLL) Diane Magas, defense lawyer for Lich, expressed concern about the neutrality of Justice Bourgeois on the basis that she ran for a federal Liberal party seat in 2011. Her denial of bail was protested in Ottawa. On March 7, 2022, the bail denial was overturned.
In her own social media post, deputy leader Melissa Lantsman calls the Crown's approach "political vengeance and not actual justice," while Conservative MP Andrew Lawton says it's "excessive and vindictive."

The judge in the case is set to announce the sentences on Wednesday, after taking into account submissions from the Crown and the defence.
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Ron in Regina

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Regularly blocking intersections and causing distress to citizens in downtown Toronto for 21 months doesn’t appear to be a crime. And yet honking horns and, yes, causing annoyance to the citizens of Ottawa for three weeks, is deemed worthy by the Crown of sending people to jail for seven and eight years.
Since October 7, 2023, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and other Canadian cities, have seen constant anti-Israel protests (along with demonstrations in support of the terror group Hamas) that have blocked streets, traffic, led to emergency vehicles being diverted, and caused much annoyance, nuisance, fear and alarm to citizens.

Yet they are continuing and more are planned. Had a group of protesters calling itself the “freedom convoy” descended on the capital but instead of standing against pandemic restrictions, they stood for abortion rights, or were supporting Black Lives Matter, or were demanding the right for solar panels to be declared sentient beings, the narrative surrounding the protest would be much different.

Instead of the unfounded epithets of “racists” and “misogynists” being hurled from people with degrees in journalism or sociology, the protesters would have been heralded as “very brave.” And if the government had dared to invoke the Emergencies Act to quell the uprising, the move would have been condemned (correctly, I might add) as an unnecessary, illiberal and authoritarian over-reaction.
 

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Regularly blocking intersections and causing distress to citizens in downtown Toronto for 21 months doesn’t appear to be a crime. And yet honking horns and, yes, causing annoyance to the citizens of Ottawa for three weeks, is deemed worthy by the Crown of sending people to jail for seven and eight years.
Since October 7, 2023, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and other Canadian cities, have seen constant anti-Israel protests (along with demonstrations in support of the terror group Hamas) that have blocked streets, traffic, led to emergency vehicles being diverted, and caused much annoyance, nuisance, fear and alarm to citizens.

Yet they are continuing and more are planned. Had a group of protesters calling itself the “freedom convoy” descended on the capital but instead of standing against pandemic restrictions, they stood for abortion rights, or were supporting Black Lives Matter, or were demanding the right for solar panels to be declared sentient beings, the narrative surrounding the protest would be much different.

Instead of the unfounded epithets of “racists” and “misogynists” being hurled from people with degrees in journalism or sociology, the protesters would have been heralded as “very brave.” And if the government had dared to invoke the Emergencies Act to quell the uprising, the move would have been condemned (correctly, I might add) as an unnecessary, illiberal and authoritarian over-reaction.
The Liberals and the media, CBC, CTV, Global, CP, (too many to list) have convinced the general public that this is the real enemy.
Not the ones wearing masks, burning our flags, and chanting, Death to Canada.
 
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And have been since Trump was elected.

Oh no, 51st state! Trump is talking about taking over Canada! Only we can save you!

The fact of the matter is that the president of the United States is a shoot-from-the-hip guy who enjoys watching people run around with their hair on fire, and the Liberals never saw a single crisis they didn't want to capitalize on. Trump acts like your typical internet troll, and the Liberals act like Chicken Little. Trudeau was out telling business leaders to take the 51st state thing seriously, and that seems to be the message his successor and rank and file are carrying.

The Canadian government has been in a constant state of crisis. I don't know if it started with the pandemic, but they have been in crisis mode since.

The Liberals attacked the Canadian military, stating that there was an epidemic of misogyny and predatory men raping women. The media gobbled this up and in the process, they accused a lot of soldiers and ruined their careers, demoted them, or just smeared their names enough to fuck their careers. A general my son served under in Afghanistan was attacked by the Liberals and the media for playing golf with the Chief of Defense Staff, General Vance. Vance had had an extramarital affair with an American major, not even in the same military, but ME TOO baby, and what was a domestic issue became political. The general, who had golfed with Vance, his friend of 20-plus years, said, "Fuck this," and took his voluntary release. He didn't want his family subjected to the same abuse as the other families who were caught up in the political witch hunt and reckless journalism.

Similarly, the RCMP were subjected to the same national smearing. The number of incidents did not warrant the outrage or the coverage, but institutions where the members aren't allowed to speak out have always been a personal whipping post for Liberals. It's easy to beat down someone who can't speak publically against their government. I know there were a few bad apples, but why not smear them all? That's what the Chretien Liberals did to us over the Somalia scandal; they labeled us all racist because of five guys. I remember going Christmas shopping with my son, who was six or seven, and in the parking lot, I was called out as a racist and called on by four aboriginal fellas to throw down. I put my son in the car and drove back to the base.

You have to ask yourself, What positive things have the Trudeau Liberals done for Canada?"
  • They did legalize weed
And now for the bad stuff:
  1. They have messed our military capabilities up so severely, just to get them back to pre-2015 status would require borrowing on our national debt into the 100s of billions. Our jets are fifty-plus years old. In the history of Canada, only one government has stripped its military of its equipment, giving it to another nation with no intention of rearming them and cutting the operating budget by a billion, and that is the Justin Trudeau government.
  2. They legalized hard drugs, causing addiction to explode in Canada, creating a black market system for entrepreneur gang members to redistribute.
  3. We now have cartels working in Canada cooking up Fentanyl.
  4. They have caused an affordability crisis by borrowing money to buy special interest votes.
  5. They invited a million people into our country with nowhere to put them, causing a significant housing crisis.
  6. They gave us the Carbon tax, which did nothing to advance R&D for alternative energy or lower global temperatures but became a burden on the middle class and poor.
  7. They have been riddled with scandals from Aga Khan to JWB to WE and the juggernaut of them all, the Green Slush fund.
  8. They ignored foreign meddling in our electoral system and still have not handed over unredacted documents. Instead, settling for a white-wash Liberal Inquiry.
  9. They lied about the vaccines, pitting Canadians against Canadians. [AN MNRA DOES NOT SUPPRESS TRANSMISSION OR STOP YOU FROM GETTING or GIVING COVID] Don't believe me? Look it up. But that didn't stop them from saying that Canadians who didn't want to be immunized were perpetuating the pandemic. It didn't stop them from mandating vaccines in the military and cross-border trucking. The Canadian truckers from all over Canada who descended on Ottawa in protest were called misogynist fringe, far right, possibly Neo Nazis. I suspect that the nazi flag was a Liberal plan to bolster the message that "Honk honk means Heil Hitler," which was coined by Liberal Canadian MP Ya'ara Saks while debating the Emergencies Act . This was going on while the protest was winding down. Police had negotiated a peaceful withdrawal, which was underway, but the Liberals needed their crisis and with the help of Jagmeet Singh and the NDP, voted to enact the Emergencies Act. They arrested the leaders and held them while freezing the bank accounts of many supporters. Tamara Lich was arrested for a mischief charge on February 17, 2022. Justice Julie Bourgeois denied her application for bail on February 22, 2022, citing Lich was a flight risk and she didn't know who Lich was working for. (EYE FUCKING ROLL) Diane Magas, defense lawyer for Lich, expressed concern about the neutrality of Justice Bourgeois on the basis that she ran for a federal Liberal party seat in 2011. Her denial of bail was protested in Ottawa. On March 7, 2022, the bail denial was overturned.
  10. Ignored Palestinian protesters in Canada who have torched buildings, shot up Jewish girls' schools and synagogues, and harassed JEws in their neighborhoods.

There's more, but isn't it enough that they have never balanced their budget once during their entire tenure in power?
If you're wondering how costs doubled, see printing money.

The country is a mess, and Carney is lipstick on a pig.
My hubby is a Vet and actually decided to call it quits after reaching his 20 years because of how the military was being treated by the Liberals. He actually turned down a promotion because he didn't want to "deal with the bullshit that he would have had to deal with." I was upset that he didn't take it because it was more money. I thought he was exaggerating until he finally had enough of it & decided to get out. I then realized he was serious.

I now know what he was talking about & I'm glad he got out when he did because he was still young enough to re-train for another occupation AND he was at home. I hated it when he went out on exercise or when he went on UN tours for 6 months (Egypt & Cyprus x2). The one thing I did like was getting to visit him in Cyprus for a week followed by Germany for another 2 weeks. He had to return to Cyprus after the first week tho' so I had fun with another lady and we drove all over the place before flying back to Canada. but I digress.

It seems nothing has changed; he often told me that when they went out on exercise, they wouldn't have the stuff they needed to actually do the exercise & so nothing has changed. I found this by reading that in Lithuania, they had to provide/pay for their own gear & pay for their own meals. They were promised to be compensated but to date, I don't know if they have. Same old, same old.

So now that Trump has (thankfully) put pressure on our lazy & inept, ideological politicians, they want to spend more money than we have which could have been prevented if they had simply ensured that the military was upgraded bit by bit on a yearly basis. Now, everything is even more expensive & we can't afford it. Apparently in the Liberals books, that's called "good planning."
 

Ron in Regina

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Lich has posted on social media that the Crown is seeking a sentence of seven years for her and eight years for Barber.
In isolation, seven years for what Lich and Barber did would probably strike most Canadians as excessive. (Among all the criticisms of Poilievre’s and Lantsman’s statements that I have read, I have not seen anyone actually defend the Crown’s sentencing request.)

In comparison to what we read in the news week in and week out, it’s downright incomprehensible.

Funnily enough, just last week, another notable convicted criminal recently got a sentence of seven years. His name is Jamal Joshua Malik Wheeler, whose criminal record in July 2023 included three attacks on total strangers on Edmonton’s public transit system. He mugged one transit rider using an axe, which got him a 14-month sentence. He punched another, sending him onto the LRT tracks. He sprayed three others with bear spray.

He was out on bail, conditions of which included staying away from public-transit property, when he fatally stabbed 52-year-old father of six Rukinisha Nkundabatware, a total stranger. Originally charged with second-degree murder, Wheeler was allowed to plead guilty to manslaughter. And yes, his sentence was seven years — the ridiculously low end of the Crown’s ask.
And then on Monday, the Crown, defence and judge in a Quebec courtroom coughed up an absolute hall-of-fame sentence. In October 2014, Oumaima Chouay admits, she decamped for Turkey and then Syria, and signed up with the nice folks at ISIL. She married a fellow traveller, had two kids, and in 2017 was captured and imprisoned by Syrian Democratic Forces. Canada brought her home in 2022.

Chouay pleaded guilty to participating in a terrorist group’s activities, which carries a sentence of up to 10 years. Her sentence, no word of a lie: One day, plus three years of probation…but she didn’t run afoul of the Trudeau now Carney Liberal government.

One argument for throwing the book at Lich and Barber is to redress public outrage over the Ottawa occupation. I dare say there’s a fair degree of public outrage in Canada over citizens taking up arms with ISIL and repeat offenders reoffending yet again while out on bail — sometimes with lethal consequences.

Apparently that’s not worthy of redress.

One significant difference is that the Ottawa occupation was much bigger, national news than either of these cases. The hyper-concentration of Canadian media resources in Ottawa meant blanket coverage, from reporters on the street to pundits at their keyboards and in TV studios. And it united people across the political spectrum: Only a week into the occupation, Angus Reid found 53 per cent of Conservative voters felt the protesters should “go home now, (having) made their point.”

I was in that camp myself. After the first weekend when Trudeau hid, Jagmeet started finishing Justin’s sentences, and it was clear that would be the outcome regardless of how long the parking kerfuffle went on…I too stated it was time to go back to work ‘cuz they’d made their point.