The Hunt is Coming

FiveParadox

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Melanie, I wonder if you would have the same opinion if these creatures weren't so damned cute; for some reason, I cannot help but think that perhaps this holy cruisade against Canadian injustice is more of a cruisade against anti-cuteness, than anything else. Why do you, as an activist, not protest the slaughter of domestic creatures? Is their situation truly different? They arguably go through far more "inhumane" processes than the harp seal does.
 

Jay

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PETA has been looking to take away the rights of hunters for years now.
 

Sassylassie

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This hypothetical converstation is going around and around my head.

A Conversation among Seal Havestors.

In NFL and there are four sealers in a dory, a cell phone rings, the younger of the four answers the phone, hello what speak up oh ma where's ya be? Oh ma thats awful how is gran doing? Okay, I will tell Grand Da, no Grand Da it's okay Grans fine she had a bad spell but she doing okay. I know ma but we are hoping to make enough tatay so Grand Da doesn' t have to come tomorrow. Yes Ma I no's hes to old to be out here but we all have to work to pay for Grans morphine. I know ma cancers an gawd aful thing to bare. Give Gran a kiss, no wes won't be home for supper, I know ma its dangerous after dark but Gran needs the medicine.


A Conversation from a protester.

Hello what Mother I can hardly hear you, Mother hold on there is a reporter coming my way. 10 Seconds elapse, Mother I apoligise, the reporter works for CBC, not CNN. Mother don't yell I know I am over drawn on my trust fund, but you have to under stand I needed to look great for the cameras. This protest could launch my acting career. Yes mother I did need a new Wool Coat with matching leather boots ist's cold here in NFL. Mother I can't talk now one of the cameras is zooming my way I want to make sure he films my good side.


P.S. Sorry Dory for my really bad attempt at a NFL accent.
 

Melanie

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Simply that reason. Cows, chickens, etc. are domesticated and bred in captivity to insure survival and not bred only for their fur. They are slaughtered at the exact number needed for meat consumption world wide.
 

FiveParadox

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And the number of harp seals to be culled is determined by the relevent institutions to ensure that populations of fish stocks are not endangered.
 

Melanie

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PETA has taken the rights away from many hunters, the fact is, these are not hunters. And most of us are not looking for ways to end hunting for personal consumption, only hunting or slaughtering of warm blooded mammals for commercial purposes and pelt mainly, funny these seals are only hunted when their baby coats are ready for wearing. But, yet, the claims are this mass cull, the largest anywhere ever, are for meat and statistics say that is factually incorrect. The truth this is one hunt or slaughter that has the world courts backing and believe it or not it will matter.
 

Melanie

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And that is only the statistics from Canada. The rest of the world says different. We all know the truth you were found guilty in court and will be again. If you believe the world court has no jurisdiction over this hunt then you need to remember Canada signed and radified as an active participant.
 

Melanie

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All species of the world have survived millions of years without us, it is only when, we as humans, start meddling in our wildlife in which we truely have no clue, proven from past extinctions through mass culls. And the greatest number of wildlife loss the world has seen since the dinosaurs. We try to fix one problem we create by creating another one. Past experiences tell us to change before we have the greatest global effect in a negative way that will harm the future of our children. We, of course, look at short term solutions to survival and money making without even asking ourselves why. Instead we need to remember our past and learn from it. Mass culls to protect another species will never work and never has. It will only add to extinction problems.
 

FiveParadox

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When the overpopulated harp seals devastate the fish stocks, and the livelihoods of many in our Northern regions are destroyed, can we begin a massive cull of misguided animal rights' activists? You know, the ones who refuse to look at facts, and instead prefer to look at the dozens of posters of cute seals they have plastered in their bedrooms?
 

Jay

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That sounds like something I woud say Five....you OK over there? :lol:
 

Sassylassie

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Melanie is playing us for fools, she is being paid over time to keep this topic on the recent threads list. Great post Five and I loved the link Jay. How about every time misquided wanting to earn over time money Melanie post we ignore her. She's annoying me.
 

Jo Canadian

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Re: RE: The Hunt is Coming

amanda1 said:
The cow is not a wild warm blooded animal killed only for leather. The people who slaughter cows for commercial purposes have strict guidelines....even though yes it is ugly, they are raised for food consumption (raised)...oh but first they must PURCHASE their cows or raise them for commercial food consumption, they are not wild warm blooded animals (which fish are not) which are illegal to kill for commercial purposes, (in contract sighning democratic countries such as ours)wild animals can only be killed for personal consumption. So the issue is not the same. And the Inuits are also being mislead, again, it is not the Inuit hunt for survival on attack here, but the commercial cull of wild animals for pelt. Baby animals I might add.

You've misconscrued the message in this pic. It's not protesting the use of "cow" but of Veal, and of course the point is is why subjugate any animal (wild or not, warm blooded or not) to the conditions that it takes to make veal...

You do know how veal is made eh? If not it's not that hard to find, you'll then get to see the bigger picture in the picture.

 

Melanie

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again veal is domesticated and eaten. Not killed for fur and oil and maybe a fin. Get your fur from synthetic materials, get your oil from cold blooded fish, and the fin....well try to live without your pie. BTW out of 400 places to eat in northern Canada we only found menus with seal in them and only fin in 47....that's alot of seal for 47 restaraunts, don't ya think. 325,000 it doesn't add up. By the way lamb do you know how many domestically raised to insure survival are slaughtered yearly. Your seal hunt makes it look like 0 and again people eat veal.
So you eat it all huh? This sealer says you mass kill and waste it. I would be so proud.
A Sealer's First Hand Account of the Newfoundland Seal Hunt by Michael Dwyer
 

Melanie

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this is truly about survival of the species, truth it is easy for those who make money without having to first put something into what they take out of, to make fun of me. It is also hard for an alcoholic that has been one all his life to see outside his tainted bottle into a real world, one where people have evolved, where barbarians have no place.
You know funny, I use to take up for you people when our own country made fun of you and your low intelligence, but now I can honestly say I have no earthly reason why. It must be said to have the whole world sickened by the way you degrade yourselves for a few bucks, for a cold one and a fin or two. Sad I tell ya, sad.
 

Jo Canadian

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Who said anything about resturants. Much of the meat is used by low income families.

I'm not denying that there may be waste, no job is 100% asshole free but when the majoirty of the hunters are trying to do things as responsibly as possible, why is the focus on the idiots who perpetrate the wrong doings?

again veal is domesticated and eaten

So you're saying because the cow is domesticated, It's OK to take a newborn from it's mother, and keep it in an isolated cell where they are kept from standing up months on a fatty diet before being killed? Domesticated or Wild the abuse goes both ways. I find that with the seal hunt though there is little room for suffering.
 

Jay

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It is also hard for an alcoholic that has been one all his life to see outside his tainted bottle into a real world, one where people have evolved, where barbarians have no place.


So your going to have a run at alcoholics too?