The Euro Break up

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How will this affect the world economy?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/26/b...breakup-of-the-euro-zone.html?_r=1&ref=europe

PARIS — For the growing chorus of observers who fear that a breakup of the euro zone might be at hand, Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany has a pointed rebuke: It’s never going to happen.

But some banks are no longer so sure, especially as the sovereign debt crisis threatened to ensnare Germany itself this week, when investors began to question the nation’s stature as Europe’s main pillar of stability.

On Friday, Standard & Poor’s downgraded Belgium’s credit standing to AA from AA+, saying it might not be able to cut its towering debt load any time soon. Ratings agencies this week cautioned that France could lose its AAA rating if the crisis grew. On Thursday, agencies lowered the ratings of Portugal and Hungary to junk.

While European leaders still say there is no need to draw up a Plan B, some of the world’s biggest banks, and their supervisors, are doing just that.

“We cannot be, and are not, complacent on this front,” Andrew Bailey, a regulator at Britain’s Financial Services Authority, said this week. “We must not ignore the prospect of a disorderly departure of some countries from the euro zone,” he said.

Banks including Merrill Lynch, Barclays Capital and Nomura issued a cascade of reports this week examining the likelihood of a breakup of the euro zone. “The euro zone financial crisis has entered a far more dangerous phase,” analysts at Nomura wrote on Friday. Unless the European Central Bank steps in to help where politicians have failed, “a euro breakup now appears probable rather than possible,” the bank said.

Major British financial institutions, like the Royal Bank of Scotland, are drawing up contingency plans in case the unthinkable veers toward reality, bank supervisors said Thursday. United States regulators have been pushing American banks like Citigroup and others to reduce their exposure to the euro zone. In Asia, authorities in Hong Kong have stepped up their monitoring of the international exposure of foreign and local banks in light of the European crisis.

But banks in big euro zone countries that have only recently been infected by the crisis do not seem to be nearly as flustered.
 

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We might see some of the ones like Greece that should never have been permitted entry leave but I doubt the whole Euro will collapse. Hopefully those responsible for the mess will suffer this time instead of taxpayers.
 

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We might see some of the ones like Greece that should never have been permitted entry leave but I doubt the whole Euro will collapse. Hopefully those responsible for the mess will suffer this time instead of taxpayers.

The taxpayers always pay - And the poor.
 

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Lithuania becomes the 19th Member State to adopt the euro

Brussels, 31 December 2014


After Lithuania adopts the euro at midnight tonight – on the 15th anniversary of the launch of the single currency in 1999 – some 337 million Europeans in 19 Member States will share the same currency. This is a major achievement for Lithuania and for the euro area as a whole. Tomorrow, Lithuanians will start withdrawing euro cash and paying for their purchases in euro.


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European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Lithuania becomes the 19th Member State to adopt the euro
 

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Meanwhile, the British, who decided not to adopt the euro despite the Europhile eejits saying we will suffer economically as a result whilst the eurozone powers ahead (how laughable those claims are today), are thinking to themselves: "We told you so...."

Thank God we ignored the pro-EU numpties and kept the pound. The Europhobes, as they so often are, turned out right all along.

The euro is crumbling. It's turned into a major disaster and it will no longer be in existence ten years from now.
 

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Four years ago when this thread started there was a fear of imminent breakup. Now you think it might happen in the next 10 years. The earth might get warmer in the next 10 years too. Britain might even become relevant in the next 10 years.
OK the last one is a bit of a stretch.
 

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Meanwhile, the British, who decided not to adopt the euro despite the Europhile eejits saying we will suffer economically as a result whilst the eurozone powers ahead (how laughable those claims are today), are thinking to themselves: "We told you so...."

Thank God we ignored the pro-EU numpties and kept the pound. The Europhobes, as they so often are, turned out right all along.

The euro is crumbling. It's turned into a major disaster and it will no longer be in existence ten years from now.

Still? It's been crumbling for three years at least (the age of this necro-thread), and the breakup of the Eurozone still hasn't happened. You gonna get on that anytime soon?
 

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Meanwhile, the British, who decided not to adopt the euro despite the Europhile eejits saying we will suffer economically as a result whilst the eurozone powers ahead (how laughable those claims are today), are thinking to themselves: "We told you so...."

Thank God we ignored the pro-EU numpties and kept the pound. The Europhobes, as they so often are, turned out right all along.

The euro is crumbling. It's turned into a major disaster and it will no longer be in existence ten years from now.

Ten years to reduce it to rubble. Rubble production has steadily improved since WW2. I bet the rubbling will be more efficient this time. Just about the time Britian gets eight month winters. I thought the EU was good idea, once. You're smarter than you look.
 

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and the breakup of the Eurozone still hasn't happened.


Yet.

There's no way the euro can survive. The one-size-fits-all policy was destined to failure from the start. All the countries in the eurozone have the same interest rates set by the ECB in Germany. The interest rates are always set to benefit Germany, and to hell with everyone else. Countries like Ireland and Greece rarely get interest rates which suit their economy. It can never work and the currency is doomed. Britain was right to say "no, thanks" to joining it.

Britain might even become relevant in the next 10 years.

Yeah. By gaining its independence from the EU.
 

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If they manage to get this war going Britain will be swamped by european fleeing the holocaust.
I would very much like to see this war stopped in its tracks. There's enough war memorials screwing up everybodies views, we don't need anymore, they never worked.
 

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Britain will be the open air prison for all the terrorists found going back to 1991. The Hauge will need branch offices there will be so many trials going on at once. Chumming the waters is a low blow but whatever.
 

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Britain will be the open air prison for all the terrorists found going back to 1991. The Hauge will need branch offices there will be so many trials going on at once. Chumming the waters is a low blow but whatever.