I like the flag, but I liked the one with the blue flaged one that was pearson's wanted.
The blue, white and little red maple leaf. I liked that one more.
The blue, white and little red maple leaf. I liked that one more.
The Canadian Flag
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the caracal kid said:
Noble ideals Kid, which by and large I share, but reality has a way of intruding on idealism. There's a certain value in the comfortable and familiar places where you know the rules, and there is such a thing as culture shock. In a certain strict sense you're right, I can never go home again, because both my parents are gone, my siblings are scattered, and there's someone else living in the house we grew up in. (And they've painted it a bilious vomit green with diaper brown trim, the swine.) But in terms of cultural familiarity and fitting in and knowing my way around, I can indeed go home again.
As long as we're swapping old sayings: home is where the heart is. Mine's here in Canada.
Flags
The beauty of a flag is the different meanings to so many people - and even to those who find no meaning whatsoever. If it ever reached the point of insignificance, then it would be time for concern.
I think as humans we all have a desire to belong - to proclaim love for a certain piece of space on our planet - and the flag gives us
a silent and symbolic way to declare that affinity and love.
It also gives us meaning as a people. Whatever feelings seeing the flag brings to you, indicates to me - the flag is doing its job.
Respect it and guard it and let it unify all under its protective cover.
The beauty of a flag is the different meanings to so many people - and even to those who find no meaning whatsoever. If it ever reached the point of insignificance, then it would be time for concern.
I think as humans we all have a desire to belong - to proclaim love for a certain piece of space on our planet - and the flag gives us
a silent and symbolic way to declare that affinity and love.
It also gives us meaning as a people. Whatever feelings seeing the flag brings to you, indicates to me - the flag is doing its job.
Respect it and guard it and let it unify all under its protective cover.
I love the Canadian Flag, it is distinct from other flags, it is bold and powerful, yet simple. The symbolism used represents us all. I feel great pride whenever I see it.
Re: RE: The Canadian Flag
Well, that's good; it is poor flag etiquette to do so.
the caracal kid said:
Well, that's good; it is poor flag etiquette to do so.
I like the maple leaf flag, it's kinda cool in it's simplicity, but may I ask, I was a bit shocked when I saw the: ontario flag and your dollar notes, both still seem to have the union jack flag on them, and that old double act of the lion and the unicorn.
It's all good, but I was suprised you didnt go the whole way, I hear you still use the ensign (which my mum swears is the british royal navy flag) for many official purposes, is this true?
It's all good, but I was suprised you didnt go the whole way, I hear you still use the ensign (which my mum swears is the british royal navy flag) for many official purposes, is this true?
Re: RE: The Canadian Flag
This?
http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/images/flags/uk.gif
We don't use it anymore as far as I know, and as far as I know it is the British Navy flag and has never been declared the official flag of the UK....I could be wrong, but that is how I understand it.
Isn't the Cross of St.George the British Flag?
The Ontario flag and the Quebec flag are navel flags as far as I know, and it makes sense considering our history. The Ontario one has been modified to include the Cross of St.George and the maple leaves for Canada.
Ontarios official motto is: Ut Incepit Fidelis Sic Permanent - Loyal She Began, Loyal She Remains.
Daz_Hockey said:
This?
http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/images/flags/uk.gif
We don't use it anymore as far as I know, and as far as I know it is the British Navy flag and has never been declared the official flag of the UK....I could be wrong, but that is how I understand it.
Isn't the Cross of St.George the British Flag?
The Ontario flag and the Quebec flag are navel flags as far as I know, and it makes sense considering our history. The Ontario one has been modified to include the Cross of St.George and the maple leaves for Canada.
Ontarios official motto is: Ut Incepit Fidelis Sic Permanent - Loyal She Began, Loyal She Remains.
There's nothing wrong with our flag. Nor is there anything fundamentally wrong with people who don't hold any level of patriotism or nationalism, that's their choice. However in the last 50 or so years there has been a substantial decline in the levels of both nationalism and patriotism in Canada. Many attribute it as a decay of our society in to a more Americanistic way of life. Others blame our Government and the lack of national identity they've propigated, especially since the Liberals took power in Ottawa. Regardless of the cause, Canada is slowly becoming an enigma of sorts on the international scene. While our nation is indeed respected, in some aspects, we're largely forgotten in others. We've never been big at hogging the international spotlight, hell our emense victories and triumphs during both World Wars were always somehow attributed as being the work of the British. Couple that with the fact our citizens, much like Caracal (no offense directed to you at all my friend), have lost touch with what it means to be a Canadian. There's nothing wrong with not being a nationalist, or a patriot, however every persons should have some pride in the fact they're a Canadian, if not what can one truely expect of our society. Last Canada Day (2005), CBC surveyed 2000 people randomly on the streets of Canada, asking them general questions about our history and our way of life. The average score was 20%. Many didn't even know what year we adopted our current flag. I think it speaks a sad truth when the people that inhabit a Country lack even the most basic knowledge of the land they call home.
the cross of st. george is of course the english flag (which I found funny how, ontario, again managed to use it twice in there flag, union jack and shield), it's also the republic of georgia's flag, bet ya didnt know that.
I find it in poor taste that any canadian victory in WW2 not be attributed to them, most people in england are extremely grateful and humbled by the outstanding support given by canada in our hour of need, the Royal Air force would have died without you, D-Day wouldnt be possible, it is unfortunate people class a canadian victory as an english one, but that sounds like an american generalisation again
I find it in poor taste that any canadian victory in WW2 not be attributed to them, most people in england are extremely grateful and humbled by the outstanding support given by canada in our hour of need, the Royal Air force would have died without you, D-Day wouldnt be possible, it is unfortunate people class a canadian victory as an english one, but that sounds like an american generalisation again
"Couple that with the fact our citizens, much like Caracal (no offense directed to you at all my friend), have lost touch with what it means to be a Canadian. There's nothing wrong with not being a nationalist, or a patriot, however every persons should have some pride in the fact they're a Canadian,"
I didn't lose touch, I never had a touch. Why should I have pride in where I was born when I had nothing to do with it? Why should I draw a line on a map and create some prefered status in my thoughts for one side over the other?
I know about earth and its inhabitants, because I call earth home.
I didn't lose touch, I never had a touch. Why should I have pride in where I was born when I had nothing to do with it? Why should I draw a line on a map and create some prefered status in my thoughts for one side over the other?
I know about earth and its inhabitants, because I call earth home.
British Columbia's flag also incorporates the Union Jack into its background; one must keep in mind, when considering remnants of Great Britain in Canada, that Canada was derived from Great Britain; whether or not we acknowledge that fact, it remains true.
I agree!
I have seen what the National Flag may have been (the red triple-maple-leaf with blue bands on the side, I think -- something like that). I think that it was absolutely beautiful. Choosing between that and the current, it would have been a hard choice for me to make.
I have seen what the National Flag may have been (the red triple-maple-leaf with blue bands on the side, I think -- something like that). I think that it was absolutely beautiful. Choosing between that and the current, it would have been a hard choice for me to make.
Re: RE: The Canadian Flag
I've seen that flag too. It was almost adopted too. =-( I think it would have represented many different things, like the two oceans which border Canada to our French history as well. Plus a Tricolour is nice to have too. =-D
FiveParadox said:
I've seen that flag too. It was almost adopted too. =-( I think it would have represented many different things, like the two oceans which border Canada to our French history as well. Plus a Tricolour is nice to have too. =-D
You go anywhere in the world with our flag and people will know your Canadian. Its kinda sad that most people do not know or forget about Canadian history.