The Bizarre Case of "Admiral Mark Norman"

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More twist and turns and we can maybe add another scam

Government worried about social media and Commons reaction on decision to alert Irving about Postmedia questions


Procurement Minister Carla Qualtrough’s office initially reacted with sarcasm to an article about how the federal government alerted Irving Shipbuilding that Postmedia was investigating problems with the country’s new Arctic patrol ships.

But federal bureaucrats quickly changed their tune after members of the public and opposition MPs took to social media to question the cozy relationship between the Liberals and Irving and denounce the company’s threat to sue Postmedia even before an article had been published, according to documents obtained under the Access to Information law.
Procurement Canada and the Department of National Defence alerted Irving on March 6 that Postmedia was asking questions about alleged weld problems on the Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ships being built by the firm for the Canadian Forces. Federal officials also provided to Irving personal information about the journalist asking questions.
Shortly after, Irving threatened Postmedia with a lawsuit if any defamatory article was published, even though no article about weld issues had originally been planned.
Instead Postmedia published an article about DND and Procurement Canada officials alerting Irving about the potential article while also confirming the departments had launched investigations into whether they had violated the privacy law.
Shortly after the article was published online on March 14, bureaucrats emailed Qualtrough’s communications director Ashley Michnowski the link to the story.
“Yurp,” Michnowski responded. “Saw that…wish I could send an eye roll emoji via blackberry.”
The next day attitudes shifted after Procurement Canada bureaucrats started becoming concerned that opposition members of Parliament were commenting on the issue, along with other media outlets.
The department’s public affairs official, Michele Larose, pointed out there were a growing number of tweets about the issue. “They just keep coming and they are not positive!”
The department’s parliamentary affairs branch was mobilized to write Qualtrough some responses to recite in the Commons if she was asked about the issue.
If asked about the violation of privacy laws in providing Irving with information about a Postmedia journalist, Qualtrough was told to respond that, “We take all privacy concerns very seriously.”
Asked to comment about the “eyeball roll” reference, Michnowski apologized Wednesday for the comment. “As the department has noted since March when the situation occurred, PSPC has reviewed their media protocols to ensure that we provide accurate information regarding ongoing projects with industry partners, while respecting journalist’s private information,” she noted in an email.
The documents provide an inside view on how Procurement Canada reacted to the initial questions about problems with welds.
Just 17 minutes after Postmedia submitted its questions to Procurement Canada’s media officials, 38 bureaucrats were given a “media heads up” the news chain was asking about problems with welds on the ships.
The documents, however, do not indicate who in Qualtrough’s office or the department alerted the Irvings.
While Procurement Canada didn’t respond to Postmedia’s questions, the DND did confirm there were minor issues with welds on the new ships.
Irving Shipbuilding President Kevin McCoy later told the Senate Finance Committee that federal officials had called the firm about Postmedia “making very wild accusations” about workmanship and other issues on the Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ships.
The news organization was threatened with legal action because “we were concerned about our reputation and the (government’s) shipbuilding strategy’s reputation,” McCoy told the senators.
But documents obtained from DND and Procurement Canada do not support McCoy’s claims. The internal records indicate that officials pointed out Postmedia was simply asking questions and trying to verify if there had indeed been weld problems. ………...Much more in the link
 

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This is hilarious.

They are trying to ignite a scandal involving the Liberals and Irving.

Because the Liberals are always shutting down projects in Quebec and starting them up in the Maritimes.
 

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by and large The Bizarre Case of "Admiral Mark Norman" is about the Trudeau government putting a hold on a government welfare project for ship building in Quebec, in order to see if it would be possible to send it to Irving.

This is why its such a typically white natty maze bafflegab.
 

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Careful!



You may be talking to someone who thinks a "caveat" is what these mounties are doing with their flagstaffs and horse weeners around that camp fire.
 

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Well so far he's spent money like a drunken sailor while cutting back social services just enough to hurt people - but not not enough to pay down any debt or even stop it from rising.

The debt thing is something liberals will look after later on.

That's what happens in Canada.






Oh hemer-HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You horribly delusional LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ford has INHERITED A COMPLEX MESS from Wynne-bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you find you are hurling down a STEEP HILL at breakneck speeds in a runaway car................................................



with a LUNATIC LIE-beral at the wheel..................................


YOU DONT just swing the steering wheel 180 DEGREES and expect all to be well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First you have to get the LIE-beral SWINE away from the controls..........................................


and THAT HAS BEEN DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Then you have to get the machine STOPPED SAFELY........................................


Ford IS DOING THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Surely even a delusional LIE-beral realizes you cannot just slam an out of control machine int REVERSE THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



NOR can you just SLAM ON THE BRAKES like a careless LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The machine has to be eased to a halt.................................................


so you dont end up in a ditch.................................................


OR WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THEN you can turn it around safely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And FORD IS DOING THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has REDUCED the deficit ALREADY.............................................................


AND HE HAS CURTAILED FURTHER OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BY issuing funding orders to the school boards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So they may decide for themselves what to save and what to AXE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Really hemer-HOID..................................................


with all the practice you have had LYING on behalf of LIE-berals........................................................


one would think YOU WOULD HAVE MORE SKILL AT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Conservative senators plan to press again for details of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman's settlement




Yes.....................if LIE-berals stopped producing Fake News.................................


then we would have NO NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course there MUST BE a look by SENIOR FRAUD SQUAD COPS...................


into the Lavalin mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If its LIE-beral then it is some sort of LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Why was Mark Norman persecuted for again?

Navy could get converted Davie supply ships at fraction of price of building new: PBO


Ottawa could buy two converted civilian vessels from a Quebec shipyard to serve as support ships for the Royal Canadian Navy for a fraction of the cost of building brand new ones, according to Parliament’s budget watchdog.

In a new report released Tuesday, parliamentary budget officer Yves Giroux estimates that the price of buying the two converted container ships from Chantier Davie would be around $1.4 billion.


That compares to around $4.1 billion to build two brand-new joint support ships, the first of which is already under construction in Vancouver and slated for delivery in 2023.

The findings follow years of heavy lobbying from Davie, which has been leasing one of the two converted civilian vessels to the Navy since 2018 and wants Ottawa to move ahead with the second. The first is known as MV Asterix and the second as MV Obelix.........
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Ron in Regina

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Admiral Norman delivered a much needed warship on time and on budget in spite of the "Canadian system" of corrupt public works contracting. That hasn't happened since World War II and success like that really embarasses and galls the party in power. The Navy snuck it through in spite of the government.
But….now he’s gone. Justin got re-elected twice, & and that brings us to the here & now:


As the country’s shipbuilding strategy continues to pile up billions of dollars in extra costs to taxpayers, Public Services and Procurement Canada is quietly seeking what it calls influencers to push out social media messages that the program is a success???

The federal government’s National Shipbuilding Strategy, which will see the construction of new vessels for the Canadian navy and coast guard, has skyrocketed in cost and various projects are facing delays expected to further drive up the price tag.

Last year, this newspaper reported the offshore science vessel to be built under NSS had jumped in price from $108 million to almost $1 billion. South Africa is constructing a similar oceanographic vessel with an ice-strengthened hull in a project with a budget of around $170 million.

In December, the Parliamentary Budget Officer released a report showing the estimated cost of building two polar icebreakers is now $7.25 billion. The federal government had originally estimated one such ship would cost $1.3 billion, etc….the rest at the above link.
 

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A major general acquitted of sexual assault last year is suing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, military officials, police investigators and Canada’s top soldier for their alleged actions linked to his case.

The statement of claim from Maj. Gen. Dany Fortin was filed Wednesday in the Superior Court of Ontario, alleging that shoddy police work and political interference not only damaged his reputation, but also led to a sexual assault charge that had no basis in fact.

Fortin is seeking $5 million in general damages and $1 million in punitive damages, according to the statement of claim.

Among those being sued are Trudeau, defence chief Gen. Wayne Eyre, former defence minister Harjit Sajjan, former health minister Patty Hajdu, former defence deputy minister Jody Thomas, Janice Charette, the clerk of the Privy Council, and several political aides. The lawsuit also names Canadian Forces Provost Marshall Brig. Gen. Simon Trudeau, members of the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service, some of Eyre’s staff and advisors as well as other generals.
 

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A major general acquitted of sexual assault last year is suing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, military officials, police investigators and Canada’s top soldier for their alleged actions linked to his case.

The statement of claim from Maj. Gen. Dany Fortin was filed Wednesday in the Superior Court of Ontario, alleging that shoddy police work and political interference not only damaged his reputation, but also led to a sexual assault charge that had no basis in fact.

Fortin is seeking $5 million in general damages and $1 million in punitive damages, according to the statement of claim.

Among those being sued are Trudeau, defence chief Gen. Wayne Eyre, former defence minister Harjit Sajjan, former health minister Patty Hajdu, former defence deputy minister Jody Thomas, Janice Charette, the clerk of the Privy Council, and several political aides. The lawsuit also names Canadian Forces Provost Marshall Brig. Gen. Simon Trudeau, members of the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service, some of Eyre’s staff and advisors as well as other generals.
Good another buried scandal popping up again .
 
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BONOKOSKI: Vice-Admiral Mark Norman and the sinking of the HMCS Trudeau

Seeing as the Trudeau Liberals and their vainglorious leader have been rattled to the gunnels by silly antics, ethics breaches, leaks, miscalculations and scandals, the mere mention of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman’s name must bring on visions of yet another hell on the horizon.

His preliminary hearing in Ottawa for allegedly leaking government secrets to influence cabinet’s decision on a $700 million shipbuilding contract with Quebec’s Davie shipyard has been moving with the slowness of a snail, and will not resume again until May 8.

Admiral Norman, who has denied any wrongdoing, has hired a marquee defence team from Toronto, headed by Marie Henein, best known eviscerating the accusers of former CBC radio star Jian Ghomeshi that saw him acquitted of a lengthy list of sexual assault charges. When and if Justice Heather Perkins-McVey decides whether there is enough evidence to send Norman to trial, that criminal proceeding will occur smack-dab in the middle of the final leg of Justin Trudeau’s run for re-election.

After ethics breaches, illegal holidays, an embarrassing dress-up trip to India, the burning of bridges to vital trade relationships, the bouncing of two key cabinet ministers, the resignation of his best friend and principal advisor, the early retirement of the Clerk of the Privy Council, carbon-tax fights with five very pissed-off premiers and the Lavscam scandal, the last thing Trudeau needs is another bump in the road. But Norman looms large as that bump, just like the trial of an innocent ‘Ol Duff for senatorial expense jiggery-pokery did nothing to help Stephen Harper and the Conservatives during the 2015 election.

Norman is not some ordinary seaman, after all, but the second-in-command of Canada’s entire armed forces, albeit now suspended. Defence counsel is presently focused on outgoing Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick, who wrote his goodbye Thursday, and how he blew his cover of solicitor-client privilege when he spoke publicly of Norman during the Commons justice committee doing its shallow dive into the Lavscam scandal.

One of Norman’s lawyer, Christine Manville, argued that despite the government claiming privilege for documents by Wernick related to the case, they should be released to the defence because Wernick himself told the justice committee that “the easiest way to deal with the Norman matter was to let the judge decide what is relevant.” The key document the defence wants to get its dubs on is an uncensored copy of the 60-page memo Wernick wrote to Trudeau on the Norman affair, claiming the document is vital to mounting a solid defence for the admiral.

And then, of course, there is the spectre of Scott Brison, the long-timeLiberal cabinet minister with Conservative roots, who suddenly resigned and fled government around the same time Norman went down. Brison, a Nova Scotian, has long been associated with backing the Irving shipbuilding company in Halifax, the rival of Davie shipyard.

Norman’s defence is trying diligently to drag Brison into the mix, citing him as instrumental in the leak-prone cabinet meeting at the heart of the case.

It’s all very toxic with, like Lavscam, Trudeau and his inner circle standing accused of attempting to hold back key evidence that could potentially bring more damage to their already battered brand.

But, day by day, something new seems to surface.

And none of it good for the PM’s fading star.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...rk-norman-and-the-sinking-of-the-hmcs-trudeau
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It was no coincidence that Quebec Premier François Legault was standing in a shipyard when he started praising Justin Trudeau to the heavens.

But on Tuesday Mr. Legault was all gratitude. Merci, he said to “Justin.” Several times.

The two politicians were at the Davie shipyard in Lévis, Que., announcing that it would now be the third shipbuilder taking part in the national shipbuilding strategy – from which Davie was left out in 2015.

& why was it left out in 2015? Because Admiral Mark Norman stepped up to the plate for the Canadian military and the Canadian tax payer…& Justin Trudeau tried to squash him and destroy his career and reputation for doing so.