The Bizarre Case of "Admiral Mark Norman"

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The Admiral is still going to have to be circumspect about what he says as long as he is an Admiral ... and he is saying that he wishes to return to work as soon as it is possible. He is still under Military Law and the Military is still under the lawful control of the aweful government. He won't be able to open up much, yet.
True that, CC and judging by what he had to say today which in no way threw blame on the government, I expect he will be circumspect in his remarks. Apparently, he and Vance have been in contact throughout the prelims which I hope bodes well for his reinstatement.
 

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There are some bureaucraps and politicians that should not only be fired but lose their cushy government pensions to help reemburse both the Admerial and the taxpayers for this waste of time and money.
 

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There are some bureaucraps and politicians that should not only be fired but lose their cushy government pensions to help reemburse both the Admerial and the taxpayers for this waste of time and money.
Bureaucrat fired ? Bureaucrat lose his/her pension ? I hate to sound mean , but are you on glue ? That happening in Canada is as likely as the carbon tax being revenue neutral .
 

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There are some bureaucraps and politicians that should not only be fired but lose their cushy government pensions to help reemburse both the Admerial and the taxpayers for this waste of time and money.
We'll be getting the opportunity to fire those politicians in just a few months. Don't miss it.
 

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True that, CC and judging by what he had to say today which in no way threw blame on the government, I expect he will be circumspect in his remarks. Apparently, he and Vance have been in contact throughout the prelims which I hope bodes well for his reinstatement.


He's still a member of the Canadian military and limits his ability to publicly criticize the federal government (his employer.)
 

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Seems to me someone should be getting a big fat reward for showing how corrupt DND and the Liberal party are.

In an inspired performance, Norman lawyer Marie Henein did incalculable damage to the Trudeau brand

You see the phrase ‘political performance’ a lot in this business. But the truth is, most politicians, even good ones, can’t perform worth a damn. They’re hams, most of them, by necessity. In politics, nuance doesn’t sell.
That’s what made what Marie Henein did Wednesday so remarkable. For more than 30 minutes, she performed in the truest sense. She put on a piece of political theatre — complete with shrugs, half smiles and quiet asides — that was as understated as it was devastating.
In front of the assembled Ottawa press corps, Henein flayed the prime minister without ever mentioning his name. She never said the words “SNC-Lavalin,” either even as she linked her client’s case, indelibly, to that festering scandal.
Henein was speaking to reporters Wednesday after the charges against her client, Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, were stayed in a surprise court appearance. The prosecutor told the court that, after reviewing new evidence, the Crown no longer felt it had a reasonable chance of obtaining a conviction in the case.
The decision was a massive win for Henein and her client. The politically-charged case against Norman — he was accused of leaking confidential material related to a ship building contract — had come to centre in the public eye, like the SNC affair, around an accusation of political interference in a high-profile prosecution.
The SNC-Lavalin affair has come to define the later part of Trudeau’s tenure in office. And on Wednesday, Henein kept the focus on Trudeau, and his brand, from the moment she sat down.
“Before we get started,” she began, “I’d just like to introduce the” — at this point she paused for half a beat and allowed herself the slightest smile — “all female team that represented Vice-Admiral Norman.” She delivered her next line in a stone-faced deadpan. “Fortunately Vice-Admiral Norman didn’t fire the females he hired.”...………...Much more

Who is Marie Henein? A look at Mark Norman's high-profile defence lawyer
 

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In an inspired performance, Norman lawyer Marie Henein did incalculable damage to the Trudeau brand

You see the phrase ‘political performance’ a lot in this business. But the truth is, most politicians, even good ones, can’t perform worth a damn. They’re hams, most of them, by necessity. In politics, nuance doesn’t sell.

That’s what made what Marie Henein did Wednesday so remarkable. For more than 30 minutes, she performed in the truest sense. She put on a piece of political theatre — complete with shrugs, half smiles and quiet asides — that was as understated as it was devastating.

In front of the assembled Ottawa press corps, Henein flayed the prime minister without ever mentioning his name. She never said the words “SNC-Lavalin,” either even as she linked her client’s case, indelibly, to that festering scandal. Henein was speaking to reporters Wednesday after the charges against her client, Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, were stayed in a surprise court appearance. The prosecutor told the court that, after reviewing new evidence, the Crown no longer felt it had a reasonable chance of obtaining a conviction in the case.

The decision was a massive win for Henein and her client. The politically-charged case against Norman — he was accused of leaking confidential material related to a ship building contract — had come to centre in the public eye, like the SNC affair, around an accusation of political interference in a high-profile prosecution.

The SNC-Lavalin affair has come to define the later part of Trudeau’s tenure in office. And on Wednesday, Henein kept the focus on Trudeau, and his brand, from the moment she sat down.

“Before we get started,” she began, “I’d just like to introduce the” — at this point she paused for half a beat and allowed herself the slightest smile — “all female team that represented Vice-Admiral Norman.” She delivered her next line in a stone-faced deadpan.

“Fortunately Vice-Admiral Norman didn’t fire the females he hired.”

The reference to Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott could not have been clearer if it was stencilled in red paint on a white wall in letters a hundred metres tall.

But Henein was far from finished. Again and again, she hammered in references to the SNC-Lavalin affair without ever making them direct. “The decision to stay this prosecution,” she said, “was discretion exercised by prosecutors and the (Director of Public Prosecutions), unimpacted by any political considerations, as it should be.”

She delivered that last line with a staccato flair, underlining each word as a separate sentence. She slipped in the next one, the most devastating one, as a casual aside. “That is in fact how things are supposed to work,” she said. “Politics are supposed to stay out of the prosecutorial process.”

Henein took pains to praise the prosecutors in the Norman case for their integrity and professionalism. She was not as kind about the Prime Minister’s Office and the Privy Council Office, which she blamed collectively for withholding a host of documents, over months and even years, that she felt were crucial to her client’s defence.

“You should be very concerned when anyone tries to erode the resilience of the justice system or demonstrates a failure to understand why it is so fundamental to the democratic values we hold so dear,” she said.

“There are times you agree with what happens in a court room there are times you don’t. And that’s fine. But what you don’t do is you don’t put your finger and try to weigh in on the scales of justice. That is not what should be happening.”

Henein was 100 per cent clear on one point: the decision to stay thecharges against her client, she said, repeatedly, was an independent one made without political interference. “The prosecutors in a high-profile case looked at the evidence and did what they’re supposed to do,” she said. “They said we don’t have a reasonable prospect of conviction. The DPP acted independently.” But she followed that, too, up with a thinly veiled barb about the SNC affair, which centred on alleged political interference into the DPP’s decision on whether or not to offer the SNC Lavalin a deferred prosecution agreement.

“If it tells you anything, it should tell you that when she (the DPP) thinks she should prosecute, she goes ahead” — at that Henein paused almost imperceptibly and smiled just for an instant — “and when she thinks she shouldn’t, she declines to do so. That’s the way it should be.”

The defence allegations once again put the prime minister on the defensive.

“The process involved in a public prosecution like this is entirely independent of my office,” Justin Trudeau said before the weekly Liberal caucus meeting. “We have confidence in the work done by the director of public prosecutions.”

Henein was later asked if Norman was owed an apology. He has been through a great deal, she replied. “There is a ship, a supply ship, that is in operation, on time and under budget, thanks, in part, to Vice-Admiral Norman.” Here her voice dipped and got a little gravely. “I think it’s time” — she waited half a beat — “to say sorry to him.”

In Ottawa, a world of Tommy Wiseaus, Henein was Meryl Streep on Wednesday. And in one inspired performance, she may have done incalculable damage to the already limping Liberal brand.

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It's okay, Hoid, chances are there won't be a third scandal before election time.
These things never come in threes.:happy1:
I would not bet my last dollar on that, RCS - being that the liberals have shown they are completely incapable of governing without resorting to corruption and interference in matters best left alone. :lol:
 

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He's still a member of the Canadian military and limits his ability to publicly criticize the federal government (his employer.)
He is and being an honorable man I doubt he is ready to throw his sterling career away by showing the liberals to be the lieing incompetent idiots they have proven time and time again to be.
 

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Here's the thing. For three years they went after Admiral Norman. Trudeau even twice said that Norman would be in court, and that was BEFORE charges were even laid. Yep, three years this went on until a long-time and well respected party member decided it was enough and agreed to testify against the Liberal govt. Suddenly the govt announces they are dropping the whole affair.
I hope Norman tells Groper to shove his blood money up his ass, have his day in court where he'll be exonerated and then turn around and sue the living f*ck out of every Liberal party member behind this for defamation of character. Groper and gang attempted to smear the man's reputation and destroy his career simply over party politics.

Anyone notice a trend with these shit bags?

For Hoid: (here's a hanky) Trudeau has now lost more points in his approval rating over 3 1/2 years than Harper did in 8. Groper is quickly becoming the second worst PM in Canadian history right behind Mulroney. Of course he's still got a few more months to secure his spot as the worst ever, and judging by the trajectory he and the Liberals are on, he's got a helluva good shot at it.
 

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"wow" the Admiral allowed
When will a rich white guy catch a break?
You're such a douche nozzle. Figures YOU would support a govt who intentionally tried to destroy a man's career and reputation over party politics. NO wonder you support these scum bags. You're as morally bankrupt as they are.

Don't worry, your rich, White buddy Groper is still getting a break. Although let's face it, if this was Trump pulling this shit in the US you'd be going into full Trump derangement mode.

It's such a shame you're stuck with the partisan programming you received and are incapable of independent thought. You just go along with whatever your ideological masters tell you to believe. Like SNC was all about jobs. :lol:. Yeah, funny that. Internally jobs were never discussed. What WAS discussed was that there were elections (PLURAL) looming in Quebec last year and federally this year. Of course they're not going to admit that to the public so they said it was all about saving jobs :lol: and you swallowed the bullshit hook, line and sinker.

If gullibility and stupidity were currency, you'd be a 1%er. But what can one expect from a wannabe dhimmi who condones islamic terrorism.
 

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For Hoid: (here's a hanky) Trudeau has now lost more points in his approval rating over 3 1/2 years than Harper did in 8. Groper is quickly becoming the second worst PM in Canadian history right behind Mulroney. Of course he's still got a few more months to secure his spot as the worst ever, and judging by the trajectory he and the Liberals are on, he's got a helluva good shot at it.

There are prominent former Liberals who are already calling him the most corrupt in history...

KINSELLA: Trudeau government trying to cover its tracks

If your political party has been caught obstructing justice — as the political party led by Justin Trudeau assuredly was, in the SNC-Lavalin scandal — what’s the one thing you need to avoid, at all costs?

Getting caught obstructing justice again, of course.

And that’s what the Trudeau regime’s prosecution of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman would have exposed: Senior Trudeau government officials, implicated in a scheme to use the criminal justice system to punish an alleged whistleblower. In this case, the second-highest-ranking officer in the Canadian Forces.

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After LavScam — and after the attempted show trial of Norman — we can now be left with only one conclusion:

This is the most corrupt federal government in Canada’s history.

And they must — must — be defeated.
 

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There are prominent former Liberals who are already calling him the most corrupt in history...

KINSELLA: Trudeau government trying to cover its tracks

If your political party has been caught obstructing justice — as the political party led by Justin Trudeau assuredly was, in the SNC-Lavalin scandal — what’s the one thing you need to avoid, at all costs?

Getting caught obstructing justice again, of course.

And that’s what the Trudeau regime’s prosecution of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman would have exposed: Senior Trudeau government officials, implicated in a scheme to use the criminal justice system to punish an alleged whistleblower. In this case, the second-highest-ranking officer in the Canadian Forces.

...

After LavScam — and after the attempted show trial of Norman — we can now be left with only one conclusion:

This is the most corrupt federal government in Canada’s history.

And they must — must — be defeated.
And that from liberal poster boy Warren Kinsela .
 

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And that from liberal poster boy Warren Kinsela .

I suspect Kinsella isn't alone in his outward contempt of Trudeau. It's interesting that Trudeau wasn't in the House answering questions Wednesday, despite his declaration 2 years ago that he would be"answering every question in QP, every Wednesday".

Maybe he was just busy yesterday?

Itinerary for Wednesday, May 8, 2019

Huh...no, looks like his itinerary was pretty much wide open. Hmmm, weird.


Some suspect that he was trying to avoid having to ask questions yesterday in the House.

There are also others who believe that Trudeau has tarnished the Liberal brand so badly, the Liberal party, who's leader basically formed the entire image of the party brand until the infamous India trip...would now prefer if he wasn't the overt poster-boy representing the brand and would rather him keep him out of the spotlight from here on in.
 
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The interesting part is that most of the commenters here who support the good admiral and want his persecutors destroyed wouldn't give two beans for a poor person or non-white framed and falsely convicted, nor call for the firing and stripping money from the cops and prosecutors who framed that person.

Flipside, those who are outraged by injustice done to the poor and minorities are vastly indifferent to the false persecution of VAdm. Norman.

A body might come to think this is mostly about politics, and damn near nobody gives a flip about justice.