The assault on reason
- Thread starter Cobalt_Kid
- Start date
lol... *smack*
actually it is passive aggressive...can't say I haven't done it myself, and can't say I am not tempted at times, but it does ruin the thread and the atmosphere of the forum in general. It seems petty to me, but then I can be petty too.
No. That is the problem. Either that or he took over SJP's job as shill for the Libs. Or both.
lol... *smack*
You know what? Fair enough, it can most definitely. Personally I'm not really one to 'dog pile' per se, although when I have something to say, I'll say it irrespective of whether others have already chimed in on that or not. However, something I've always said is that each thread does not exist in a vacuum. So when a member is consistently and continually posting thread after thread on pretty much the same damn topic, particularly when it carries implied insults or is overly dramatic, it grates on peoples nerves after a while and this can be the result.
How do you know Harper isn't right? For the most part I agree with Harper even though I do not like the man. Government needs to be run with more of a business attitude or we will all wind up like Greece etc.
The problem is that we have been accustomed to BIG Brother supplying all are little wants for so long we have come to accept it as natural.
Here in a smaller form is what is happening to our economy. The forest industry in BC.
We as a group have managed to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Unions with their incessant demands for more pay for less work, It is not so much the hourly rate but the extras like 6 weeks of paid holidays, which requires so many extra employees. Multiple layers of government with the ability to tax tax tax. Also the fees for every thing that are simply another form of tax. The environmental movement which has forced through laws that make working unreasonable. Overlapping Multiple levels of government again with demands for report after report after report which are expensive and mostly useless except to create government jobs. The result is that we now have few mills because it is so much cheaper to operate in Washington state. Much good wood is also no longer included in the AAC because of parks and protected areas making logging costs higher. So much so that now the greenies are even protesting logging second and third growth.
This can also be applied to the automotive industry in Ontario as well with very little change.
Bottom line: We can only get so much for "free" and at some point there will be nothing left, Then what happens to your entitlements?
I have an underdog weak spot too, believe me I do. So when it gets too out of control (the piling up I mean) I tend to stay clear. Having said that though, I try and sit back and look at the real root cause of it all. I think it can be easy to look at the larger group and point out how wrong they are behaving, but if you stop and look at the reasons behind it, it suddenly becomes a lot more understandable where everyone is coming from.
If someone presents their message in such a way as to piss a lot of people off or at the very least irritate a lot of people, then one really shouldn't be surprised when folks get irritated right? End of the day, it's not what's being said so much as how it's being said that presents the real problem for the majority to get involved like this.
In my opinion.
Sorry, I have multiple things on the go this morning and I'm only half concentrating, what are you getting at then?
does this help?
Really? You like to look at the root cause of something? How unique. How unusual. Do you have many people put you down for taking that angle? Put you down for even suggesting such a thing should be done?
The idea of getting to the "root causes" for terrorist attacks has been forwarded by Justin Trudeau and has received major derision from those opposing Trudeau.
It seems that everyone that does not share your personal viewpoints is ignorant or insane or uneducated or even nasty.
The reality is that most Canadians do not share your views as evidenced by their voting results.
So you are the odd one out.
And the reality is that almost all serious issues have two sides perhaps more.
And there are usually multiple rights and multiple wrongs on every debatable issue.
And if you are incapable of seeing and understanding that you will never be much of a debater.
Instead you will just end up haranging all others who may or may not agree with you.
And that combined with being a cut"n'paste wizard comes off as inexpierenced and annoying.
Ideologues are almost always repetitive and boring.
We have 2 1/2 more years of Harper and judging from your endless cut'n'pastes that must be a very painful reality for you.
I see you chose to ignore my question about voting and or working on party campaigns.
Probably because you have not bothered.
I would suggest that anyone who cares deeply about politics and outcomes should donate both time and money to the issues at hand.
You can learn an awful lot about issue managemant and political issues and outcomes by becoming involved yourself.
As to Governments of China, Russia and Zimbabwe what do you know about them and their motivations?
I have worked for the governments of China ,Russia, India and Cuba
And multinationals in Europe, SA, ME and Asia.
I learned a lot about other countries, how they operate, their politics, what their people want , their views on climate change and pollution.
Climate change is an international issue.
Canada is so small population wise that Canadian management or lack thereof of c02 really makes no difference on a global scale.
And compared to the huge polluters like China and India we are actually setting very high standards ourselves.
If Canada completely shut down oil sands extraction, or conversely ramped up development as much as possible it would make virtually no difference globally.
It's all about perception.
If you care about global pollution and or climate change you need to make changes where the big emissions are both in place and planned for the future.
And that is not in Canada.
Environmental activism in Canada is a political non-development agenda.
It really has nothing to do with improving pollution or emissions on a global scale.
And everything to do with trying to turn Canada into a giant national park.
When I do something wrong it matters not what the reason is, it is still wrong and needs a directional change. Understanding why something has occurred or why I have behaved in a certain manner is in my mind a means to lead to change, not to accept it as an excuse for the behaviour or an excuse for its repetition.
If understanding does not lead to change or at least a search for change then I believe it was a wasted effort because it is for naught.
That one at least is simple. The root cause of terrorist attacks is religion. Or more specifically Islam.
Amber has an opinion. How bout that. It's amaaaaaaaaaaaaazing, right?
Foamy, from the bit you quoted: "Proud Canadians should blush in horror when they learn that last year Canada ranked number 55 out of 93 countries that have laws that allow requests for documents about what their governments have done. " So you're blaming Harpy for the laws we have about freedom of information? Sorry, but the FoI Act came into being in 1983 and little has changed since then, except Harpy shut down CAIRS (which wasn't created until 1989). Information is still available, just takes longer to get.
Perhaps if you had a clue about what you rant about, people might take you a bit more seriously, Foamy.
Now, the scandals and stuff, I can understand concerns about the Cons over stuff like that, but when you pop up with claims that Harpy suppresses information and other such nonsense, I suggest you give your cranial nuts n bolts a bit of tightening.
A large portion of the planet "dogpiled" on Hitler and the USSR a few decades back.
(Just teasing)uhuh Turdeau come up with that idea all by himself and the idea had never occurred to anyone else before that, right? Yeah, sorry, but people have been analyzing terrorism for a bit longer than Turdeau has been parroting the idea.
Nope. It's fanatacism (or the latest buzzword is "extremism") of any kind.
Oh, and BTW, Foamy, a little while back someone said, "If you're troubled by reality then by all means stick with the party that clearly wants to avoid it, don't ask the rest of us to abandon reason for insanity just because it's comfortable." I think the one who posted that should take their own advice.
A large portion of the planet "dogpiled" on Hitler and the USSR a few decades back.
Oops. Wrong! A large portion of Europe thought "Mr. Hitler" was just the thing to stop those horrible communists and their ridiculous notions that someone who works should not starve to death. It wasn't until Hitler started threatening their fortunes and control that they "dogpiled" him.
National Research Council: Harper Tories Tell Agency To Focus On Industry, Not Raw Science
This is just brilliant, why don't we go back to living in a theocracy where the church tells us everything we need to know...oh wait we're heading there now.
Scientists take aim at Harper cuts with ‘death of evidence’ protest on Parliament Hill - The Globe and Mail
When hundreds of usually apolitical scientist show up to protest it's usually an indication that a government isn't supporting the sciences.
This is just brilliant, why don't we go back to living in a theocracy where the church tells us everything we need to know...oh wait we're heading there now.
Scientists take aim at Harper cuts with ‘death of evidence’ protest on Parliament Hill - The Globe and Mail
When hundreds of usually apolitical scientist show up to protest it's usually an indication that a government isn't supporting the sciences.