Texas city revives paddling in school

[CDNBear]

"my son would never do that".

This is a common problem.

We had an issue here with a couple kids that don't like my boys, for of all things, being in the Cadets. It started when my boys went door to door selling raffle tickets, in uniform. The were hounded with names like "Baby, baby killers", "Wannabe soldiers", and so on. They ignored the insults. That only led to vandalism. I caught them one night, went to their house and confronted their parents.

I was flat out told I was lying, their boys had been home all night and that their boys were not that kind of child.

Two later I caught them on one of my trailcams, red handed. I again went to their parents. Again I was told the same thing. Then I presented the pictures. I photoshopped them...

Some people have no clue, and some people wonder why I have so little respect for clueless people?

 

[AnnaG]

If you brought up your kid properly chances are the teachers would never have reason to use a paddle or a strap. However many parents have never bothered to instruct their brats on manners and when they act up in class there is nothing the teacher can do to control them. I have actually heard a parent that I know never disciplined their brats tell a teacher who was trying to control one of the brats that was creating a disturbance say"my son would never do that".

Parenting is highly subjective when it comes down to one's own kids, yup. lol
I think a lot of it is that parents who are too lazy or not bright enough to think of alternate methods of teaching kids proper social behaviors. I know some forms of corporal punishment are effective because I used some. One of the neatest ones I know of was between a kid and his teacher (teacher is a friend of ours). The kid was disrupting class and the teacher went over to him, leaned down so that their faces were inches apart, and said, "I'm a lot bigger than you. Stop it". Intimidation had an effect on the kid; he quit being a nuisance.

 

[CDNBear]

Parenting is highly subjective when it comes down to one's own kids, yup. lol

Things like right and wrong are not subjective. Often peoples ideologies come screaming out their childrens mouths.

I think a lot of it is that parents who are too lazy or not bright enough to think of alternate methods of teaching kids proper social behaviors. I know some forms of corporal punishment are effective because I used some.

So why is it bad for a school system that once did it and had it work?

One of the neatest ones I know of was between a kid and his teacher (teacher is a friend of ours). The kid was disrupting class and the teacher went over to him, leaned down so that their faces were inches apart, and said, "I'm a lot bigger than you. Stop it". Intimidation had an effect on the kid; he quit being a nuisance.

Right up until they realize it's an empty threat. I can count on one hand how many times I've had to hit my kids. And it worked. Which is why I can count it on one hand for two boys.

 

[AnnaG]

Things like right and wrong are not subjective.

I agree, they just are (at least according to society). The attitudes towards their kids in relation to right and wrong is highly subjective, though.

Often peoples ideologies come screaming out their childrens mouths.

Yup.

So why is it bad for a school system that once did it and had it work?

They can't think of better tools to use?

Right up until they realize it's an empty threat. I can count on one hand how many times I've had to hit my kids. And it worked. Which is why I can count it on one hand for two boys.

Yeah, and ...? I can assure you, Bruce meant it. Another kid misbehaved and Bruce grabbed him by the shirt collar, took him home, and told the parents that when the kid could behave, he would be allowed back in school. Bruce was also the principal, BTW. There was a bit of media over it for a while but it died down when the parents figured out that the authorities thought the action was justified.

 

[CDNBear]

They can't think of better tools to use?

Given the state of kids today? Apparently not.

Yeah, and ...?

And what, they're decent kids. Did I suggest somewhere kids need to be beat often or something?

I can assure you, Bruce meant it. Another kid misbehaved and Bruce grabbed him by the shirt collar, took him home, and told the parents that when the kid could behave, he would be allowed back in school. Bruce was also the principal, BTW. There was a bit of media over it for a while but it died down when the parents figured out that the authorities thought the action was justified.

He's lucky.

 

[Risus]

Baloney. The kids in school are better behaved than they use to be.

I would guess you are not a teacher...

 

[Risus]

Using the strap is hardly "beating the crap out of everyone". I sense emotion.

I know I had the strap more than once, and I think I still turned out ok.
Today's society is too afraid to punish anyone in even a constructive way.
Kids today have NO RESPECT, for their elders, peers or property. Their parents don't care. . I can't remember how long it has been since I've seen a kid today hold a door open for a senior, or call a senior 'Sir'.

 

[CDNBear]

I know I had the strap more than once, and I think I still turned out ok.
Today's society is too afraid to punish anyone in even a constructive way.
Kids today have NO RESPECT, for their elders, peers or property. Their parents don't care. . I can't remember how long it has been since I've seen a kid today hold a door open for a senior, or call a senior 'Sir'.

Yep, between the low class of parents and the sad state of the schools, I fear for our future Risus.

lol!

Sadly I'm not kidding, wait you'll come across it as you go through the thread.

 

[AnnaG]

Given the state of kids today? Apparently not.

Did they try?

And what, they're decent kids. Did I suggest somewhere kids need to be beat often or something?

Nope. I just thought there might be a bottom line besides that you are probably a good parent and have good kids. lol

He's lucky.

And apparently the Province thought he was right, too.

 

[CDNBear]

Did they try?

I would guess so. I know they've tried in this Province. Epic failures.

 

[AnnaG]

I would guess so. I know they've tried in this Province. Epic failures.

So they reverted back to the cane over there?

 

[AnnaG]

I think most kids are pretty good and there are and only a few rotten ones. Same as it has always been.

 

[CDNBear]

So they reverted back to the cane over there?

Not yet, but i hope they do soon. For the sake of our future.

 

[Risus]

I think most kids are pretty good and there are and only a few rotten ones. Same as it has always been.

More than a few rotten ones. I guess you are not in the public education system.

 

[Kreskin]

More than a few rotten ones. I guess you are not in the public education system.

You were a teacher 45 years ago and still are today?

 

[Risus]

You were a teacher 45 years ago and still are today?

No, but I have friends who are. Whats your point?

 

[AnnaG]

More than a few rotten ones. I guess you are not in the public education system.

No but I deal with a lot of kids. I'm a soccer coach.

 

[Kreskin]

No, but I have friends who are. Whats your point?

You asked your question like you were the qualified expert so just wanted clarification.

 

[Risus]

You asked your question like you were the qualified expert so just wanted clarification.

No I didn't ask a question. Go back and check...

 

[Risus]

No but I deal with a lot of kids. I'm a soccer coach.

I think you will find that the brats and 'bad apples' wouldn't be enrolled in a soccer program.