Terrorist attack in London

[TenPenny]

I don't know who planted them, but it sure as hell wasn't Bush. Only an immature fool would blame Bush and Blair.

It's a logical assumption that this was related to the mideast mess, planned as a message to the G8. Maybe some al-Qaeda splinter/follower group, maybe not. I don't always believe the media; lets wait for the dust to settle. Literally.

 

[Said1]

sadly, I think this is an accurate assessment. The amplification of the ritualistic "Reich" rhetoric has already begun. VERY concerning. .......as the entire texture of the US changes in front of us. The "Reich" has a powerful handle on its population ......fear. And now it will amplify the "security" safety issue ......while doing exactly what it wants in other areas. The "reich" will continue to "justify" its actions on the basis of "security". They have a population by the short hairs. The "terrorists" will most likely continue to operate in sinc. .....perpetuating the fear factor.

If I lived in London or New York, I'd be afraid. Hell, people do crazy shit on parliment hill, and they're not terrorists, they're just wakos.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

sadly, I think this is an accurate assessment. The amplification of the ritualistic "Reich" rhetoric has already begun. VERY concerning. .......as the entire texture of the US changes in front of us. The "Reich" has a powerful handle on its population ......fear. And now it will amplify the "security" safety issue ......while doing exactly what it wants in other areas. The "reich" will continue to "justify" its actions on the basis of "security". They have a population by the short hairs. The "terrorists" will most likely continue to operate in sinc. .....perpetuating the fear factor.

If I lived in London or New York, I'd be afraid. Hell, people do crazy shit on parliment hill, and they're not terrorists, they're just wakos.

Q: How is the "security" in Ottawa these days??? Just considering CA's key cities that might be targetted. Seems the most recent communique from some terrorist cell specified a few nations on their list. US was not on this list . Ca was not on this list.....but , it also indicated that anyone involved in Afganistan could be a target too.Tensions are running high anyhow due to the Iraq mess......but this attack in London......although not a complete surprise......elevates the tension levels remarkably.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

unfortunately I do not think this latest assault on civilians will lead to sobre review of Policies, but rather would be used to amplify the rheroric of the Reich

sadly, I think this is an accurate assessment. The amplification of the ritualistic "Reich" rhetoric has already begun. VERY concerning. .......as the entire texture of the US changes in front of us. The "Reich" has a powerful handle on its population ......fear. And now it will amplify the "security" safety issue ......while doing exactly what it wants in other areas. The "reich" will continue to "justify" its actions on the basis of "security". They have a population by the short hairs. The "terrorists" will most likely continue to operate in sinc. .....perpetuating the fear factor.

unfortunately I do not think this latest assault on civilians will lead to sobre review of Policies, but rather would be used to amplify the rheroric of the Reich to vilify Islam. If this is an attack by 'Islamic Extremists', let us remember that the action is from 'extremists' and should not be used as a pretext to punish other innocent People (such as the nation of Iran).

I couldn't see it at first....I thought what the hell is wrong with these people...now I see, you two work for the Iranian government....

that defies the boundaries of stupidity. :?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I don't know who planted them, but it sure as hell wasn't Bush. Only an immature fool would blame Bush and Blair.

It's a logical assumption that this was related to the mideast mess,

Immature fool???? :roll:


bush/blair/middle east mess are inter related. And yes, it would appear this is what it relates to. The timing of it ......in conjunction with G-8..... is only to add more drama and sensationalism to it. It is also a psychological tactic.

 

[stratochief]

I hope the individuals responsible for this horrendous act of terrorism are brought to justice quickly.
.

True. I hope Bush and Blair are one day held accountable for the misinformation and lies they promoted to justify the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Their acts did more to promote terrorism than any other.

Our society accepts the use of violence when it is justified. The trumped-up invasion of a country resulting in thousands of deaths and the bombing of civilians in London are both despicable acts and those responsible should be tried and punished. Violence leads to violence. War has real consequences.

 

[Jay]

unfortunately I do not think this latest assault on civilians will lead to sobre review of Policies, but rather would be used to amplify the rheroric of the Reich

sadly, I think this is an accurate assessment. The amplification of the ritualistic "Reich" rhetoric has already begun. VERY concerning. .......as the entire texture of the US changes in front of us. The "Reich" has a powerful handle on its population ......fear. And now it will amplify the "security" safety issue ......while doing exactly what it wants in other areas. The "reich" will continue to "justify" its actions on the basis of "security". They have a population by the short hairs. The "terrorists" will most likely continue to operate in sinc. .....perpetuating the fear factor.

unfortunately I do not think this latest assault on civilians will lead to sobre review of Policies, but rather would be used to amplify the rheroric of the Reich to vilify Islam. If this is an attack by 'Islamic Extremists', let us remember that the action is from 'extremists' and should not be used as a pretext to punish other innocent People (such as the nation of Iran).

I couldn't see it at first....I thought what the hell is wrong with these people...now I see, you two work for the Iranian government....

that defies the boundaries of stupidity. :?

I guess that's not it then...

 

[TenPenny]

I don't know who planted them, but it sure as hell wasn't Bush. Only an immature fool would blame Bush and Blair.

It's a logical assumption that this was related to the mideast mess,

Immature fool???? :roll:


bush/blair/middle east mess are inter related. And yes, it would appear this is what it relates to. The timing of it ......in conjunction with G-8..... is only to add more drama and sensationalism to it. It is also a psychological tactic.

You've fallen into that trap, that no matter what action someone takes, there's someone else to blame. Don't blame the bombers, it's Bush's fault. But, don't blame Bush, it's the 9-11 bombers' fault. But don't blame them, it's Bush 1's fault. But don't blame him, it's Russia's fault.

Stop that. Every person needs to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

[Said1]

Q: How is the "security" in Ottawa these days??? Just considering CA's key cities that might be targetted.

Probably the same as it was last time you checked, thanks for your heartfelt concern though. :roll:

Seems the most recent communique from some terrorist cell specified a few nations on their list. US was not on this list . Ca was not on this list.....but , it also indicated that anyone involved in Afganistan could be a target too.Tensions are running high anyhow due to the Iraq mess......but this attack in London......although not a complete surprise......elevates the tension levels remarkably.

It sure does elevate tension, although the person responsible for the communique seems a little confused. Are you sure it was a "real" comunique, and not a fake cummunique written by Bush.......er, I mean the fourth Reich?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I don't know who planted them, but it sure as hell wasn't Bush. Only an immature fool would blame Bush and Blair.

It's a logical assumption that this was related to the mideast mess,

Immature fool???? :roll:


bush/blair/middle east mess are inter related. And yes, it would appear this is what it relates to. The timing of it ......in conjunction with G-8..... is only to add more drama and sensationalism to it. It is also a psychological tactic.

You've fallen into that trap, that no matter what action someone takes, there's someone else to blame. Don't blame the bombers, it's Bush's fault. But, don't blame Bush, it's the 9-11 bombers' fault. But don't blame them, it's Bush 1's fault. But don't blame him, it's Russia's fault.

Stop that. Every person needs to take responsibility for their own actions.

agree, each must take responsibility for his/her actions. Just as the perpetrators of this latest CRIME......must be brought to a civilized justice........so must the perpetrators of an insane invasion that factors into the cause of this horror in London. There are numerous levels of responsibility in these current situation.

speaking of the blame game: OBL and his ilk were "blamed" for 9-11.........yet the focus was taken off of him to the point that bush said he hardly even thinks of him anymore. (remember that remark) What kind of "reasoning" is that??? Bush is responsible for mishandling this terrorist situation too. He took his eye off the eight ball. .......and went gung ho into an elective invasion, based it on a series of crappy lies.....which in turn fostered more rage and terrorism.

 

[PoisonPete2]

[sinc. .....perpetuating the fear factor.[/quote]
couldn't see it at first....I thought what the hell is wrong with these people...now I see, you two work for the Iranian government....[/quote]
It begins by trying to undermine others with labelling. I think I hear the gestopo boots at my door. Whoever did this series of bombs in London murdered a bunch of people and I hope they get caught. And I hope they catch the people who ordered bombing of innocent people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palistine, Panama, Chenznia, Congo, Niger, Indonesia, etc.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Q: How is the "security" in Ottawa these days??? Just considering CA's key cities that might be targetted.

Probably the same as it was last time you checked, thanks for your heartfelt concern though. :roll:

Seems the most recent communique from some terrorist cell specified a few nations on their list. US was not on this list . Ca was not on this list.....but , it also indicated that anyone involved in Afganistan could be a target too.Tensions are running high anyhow due to the Iraq mess......but this attack in London......although not a complete surprise......elevates the tension levels remarkably.

It sure does elevate tension, although the person responsible for the communique seems a little confused. Are you sure it was a "real" comunique, and not a fake cummunique written by Bush.......er, I mean the fourth Reich?

hope your remark about my concern is not facetious. It IS very concerning. The "communique " in question ( that I make reference to) is one that has been mentioned on BBC media. Due to the tragedy , it has only been given fringe play .....for now. How valid it is , is yet to be determined.

 

[GreenGreta]

For the record, if I hear George Bush say one more time "Find them and bring them to justice" I'm going to freaking scream. Get some new lines. Sorry.

 

[Toro]

God Bless England.

Ken livingstone, London's mayor, just about summed up the mood at present:

"This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty and the powerful; it is not aimed at presidents or prime ministers; it was aimed at ordinary working class Londoners, black and white, Muslim and Christians, Hindu and Jew, young and old, indiscriminate attempt at slaughter irrespective of any considerations, of age, of class, of religion, whatever, that isn't an ideology, it isn't even a perverted faith, it's just indiscriminate attempt at mass murder, and we know what the objective is, they seek to divide London. They seek to turn Londoners against each other and Londoners will not be divided by this cowardly attack,"

He then had a message for the terrorists who had organised the explosions.

"I wish to speak directly to those who came to London to claim lives, nothing you do, how many of us you kill will stop that flight to our cities where freedom is strong and where people can live in harmony with one another, whatever you do, how many you kill, you will fail."

Livingston was on the far left of the Labour Party when it still was the Labour Party. He is against the war in Iraq, but this statement shows the resolve of the British people. My guess is that Britain will not turn tail like the Spanish.

As for all of you who are propogating conspiracy theories that the West or Israel is responsible this attack, It only discredits you further.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: Terrorist attack in London

For the record, if I hear George Bush say one more time "Find them and bring them to justice" I'm going to freaking scream. Get some new lines. Sorry.

feeling the same way here too. Empty words. anyhow. He has not brought OBL to "justice" yet and has had plenty of time to do it........but ooops.....got himself diverted into an unnec elective war. (anytime I see his face on the telee , I now switch channels. Too much is just too much.)

 

[Ocean Breeze]

My guess is that Britain will not turn tail like the Spanish.

Spain knew it should NOT have involved itself in the Iraq mess to begin with. How sad that it's pullout is seen in such a nasty light. Sometimes it is just SMART to pull back ....


Would "guess" that the Brits are in for the long hall. Blair is too intertwined with bush . and has invested heavily in this "effort"

 

[Said1]

hope your remark about my concern is not facetious. It IS very concerning. The "communique " in question ( that I make reference to) is one that has been mentioned on BBC media. Due to the tragedy , it has only been given fringe play .....for now. How valid it is , is yet to be determined.

Of course it was facetious, I hit the right emoticon. :wink:

Doesn't a "communique", worded ever so eloquently (not a knock at you, just the people who wrote it and announced it), only serve to perpetuate fear?

 

[I think not]

What's Behind the London Attacks?
The bombing of the London Underground was a false-flag operation designed to keep the West mired in war. Don't believe otherwise.
By Matt Hutaff Jul 7, 2005

http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/canon_fodder/0889_what_behind_london_attacks.html

Isn't this nice. Conspiracy theorists working overdrive. I suppose even they need a job.

 

[mrmom2]

Britain and the US has never used terror as a weapon though eh ITN
Here Shall I post the link were the US brags about planting bombs in Iran to oust the goverment there and put the Shah in :wink:

 

[I think not]

the operative question that remains now is: Will the US population rally around their criminal warmongering leader.....who was the instigator of the Iraq mess??? Or will they finally see the light and get rid of him??? Seems that Blair is on a shorter leash in Britain......but not short enough.

there now has to be (IMHO) a complete change in dynamics. One idea would be getting the UN REALLY involved in Iraq.-or take leadership)....having the UN call for assistance from as many nations as possible to help stabilize the nation , so that the first important step can be achieved. Stability. No American has any right condemning the UN now........as we have all seen what a bloody mess the US has made of things. The UN might not be ideal......but it is more representative of the world.....and can be more impartial.

In fact the US(G) has lost the right to condemn any nation or its gov't now. It speaks with a hollow but loud , voice now. It has shown itself for what it is and it is not an example to emulate by any stretch of the imagination. TOO MANY have died as a result of this US stupidity.......and a lot more will continue to die. The LAST thing Iraq needs is a "democracy" based on the US model. or with UN influence/interference.

How sad , that so many fell for the "them vs us" rhetoric and stopped examining the entire dynamic /process/pattern.

The operative question is, who did it :idea: and how will Britain respond :idea: Hello?