Tenn. professor cruises cross-country on 2.15 gallons of gas

[Kakato]

I just know I get paid every friday on the pipeline and the more oil you guys and gals use means more work for me.
So keep consuming folks.

Last year this time I was up north freezing my ass off for half the coin.

 

[L Gilbert]

Nah. I'll continue improving on a low-maintenance, low-cost life, thanks.

 

[Kakato]

Nah. I'll continue improving on a low-maintenance, low-cost life, thanks.

Me too,I will be off the electric grid in 3 years,off the gas grid sooner when I get my used oil burning furnace.
The credit cards are all done,simplify the life,everyone wants your money.

I used to read a lot of mother earth magazines when I was younger and the pioneer life kind of stuck with me.
I like being self sufficient,I can do a good enough solar project that I should make enough money to make up for the days with no sun by selling it back to whatever Alberta company is my carrier at the time.
Then I will sit back on my deck,watch the sun set in B.C. and crack a "tinny" and smile.

 

[skookumchuck]

That's why some people add fuel burning engines. DUH
Irrelevant. You said they are slow. I showed you to be wrong. Besides, the dude wasn't running a D-10 across the country; he was running his hybrid car. Pretty lame strawman argument you tried there.
lol I've been using recycled batteries for years. $35 per battery.

By slow i referred to the inability to fuel up quick and go.
They are all going to Lithium, lots of recycled Lithium batteries around that fit right in an electric car huh? Lithium costs 5 times more recycle than to mine. Recycling "wet" batteries is way cheaper but electric cars will not use them.
As i said, they are too young and way too specific to fit the needs of the majority which includes people who could not afford them.

Depends on what you are using the energy for. My solar panels are enough to run all the lights in our house and then some. As far as augmenting the car, what do you suppose is the reason the dude only used 2+ gallons to cross the country if it wasn't for the electrical energy? It was a car, not a freight train. If it hauled the dude and his suitcase and whatever else across the country, obviously it was enough for the job.

"Depends on what you are using the energy for" cars, solar home power is a different argument entirely. We are talking transportation. I stand by my assumption that they are far too limited at this point and over hyped by peeps who want to prove how green they are.
btw, do you agree with burning food grown with fossil fuel energy to save energy?
Saying that he made it cross country is also a straw man argument.
Average speed?

No-one ever claimed they were the perfect solution to everything. At least you admit they have a purpsoe. Petros seems to think that unless they can be the perfect solution to everything, they are no good for anything. Nah. If I had an electric vehicle, I'd think nothing of holidaying down to South Am with it. One guy went 313 miles on one charge in his Tesla Roadster. That's just straight battery draw with no supplemental charging from downhill generating or solar.

How long did he have to wait to recharge? 12 hrs? Lots of parts and service stations for electrics in South Am?

Yep, DUH. And it isn't just my opinion. I can and do back up my opinion with fact and evidence. Which is more than I can say for you and Petros.
Most posts? How does your 90 some odd posts stack up against my 14,000+ posts then? As if that has anything to do with the issue.

Thought so, you decided somewhere along the line that volume trumps all, ever been wrong? Or even misguided? Your "facts and evidence" come not from you but copy paste. You believe it, that's fine.
No issues here with your take but.........
Gad! The audacity of a newcomer arguing with you, nice new clothes there yer highness.

 

[L Gilbert]

Me too,I will be off the electric grid in 3 years,off the gas grid sooner when I get my used oil burning furnace.
The credit cards are all done,simplify the life,everyone wants your money.

I used to read a lot of mother earth magazines when I was younger and the pioneer life kind of stuck with me.
I like being self sufficient,I can do a good enough solar project that I should make enough money to make up for the days with no sun by selling it back to whatever Alberta company is my carrier at the time.
Then I will sit back on my deck,watch the sun set in B.C. and crack a "tinny" and smile.

Sounds cool.

By slow i referred to the inability to fuel up quick and go.

Ah. Well, you didn't specify and the usual myth people leap to is the slowness of the vehicles. I's evident that a hybrid doesn't need to be fueled up nearly as often as a regular vehicle.

They are all going to Lithium, lots of recycled Lithium batteries around that fit right in an electric car huh? Lithium costs 5 times more recycle than to mine. Recycling "wet" batteries is way cheaper but electric cars will not use them.

That'll pass as battery research gets better. besides, the battery packs are designed to last a couple hundred thousand miles and are warranteed for 10 years in most cases.

As i said, they are too young and way too specific to fit the needs of the majority which includes people who could not afford them.

GMC Sierra hybrid costs $40,000 US. Chevy Silverado hybrid is $30,000. A Lincoln MKZ is $38,000. A BMW 335d hybrid diesel is $45,000. If you are poor; a Smart 42 is $13,000 and a Toyota Laris is also $13,000.

"Depends on what you are using the energy for" cars, solar home power is a different argument entirely. We are talking transportation. I stand by my assumption that they are far too limited at this point and over hyped by peeps who want to prove how green they are.

And as I said, they charge while going downhill, can recharge on the go using solar power, also every time the engine runs on gas, they are charging as well.

btw, do you agree with burning food grown with fossil fuel energy to save energy?

Nope. Food should be used as food except when it's rotten.

Saying that he made it cross country is also a straw man argument.

Nope. You brought up D-10s combines, etc. which is irrelevant to the topic of hybrid cars. My point was that the car served the purpose for what the guy intended to use it for. It was directly on topic. The strawman fallacy is when a person simply ignores another's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of that position. Similar to the red herring argument.

How long did he have to wait to recharge? 12 hrs?

Under 3 hours. But that's just a straight electric car.

Lots of parts and service stations for electrics in South Am?

I am sure they have electrical power in South America. Why would I need parts if nothing breaks down? Can you get parts for your Dodge Viper or Porsche Turbo Carrera easily there?

Thought so, you decided somewhere along the line that volume trumps all,

I'm not the one that brought up the issue of number of posts, idiot. You did.

ever been wrong?

Yep.

Or even misguided?

Not that I'm aware of.

Your "facts

and evidence" come not from you but copy paste.

Sorry, but I base my opinions on facts and evidence and they aren't cut n pastes, idiot. They were links.

You believe it, that's fine.

If you can provide evidence where my supported opinion is wrong, then provide it. Like I said, so far I've seen little or nothing from you or Petros to back yourselves up.

No issues here with your take but.........
Gad! The audacity of a newcomer arguing with you, nice new clothes there yer highness.

lmao Like I said, you are the one that brought up the issue of post quantity, not me.
I welcome argument. If people can point out my errors, I like it. I learn that way. Besides, argument, debate, discussion is fun for me. If you can't handle it, that's tough.

And, btw, learning how to use quotes when separating comments from another person is easy. It doesn't hurt to ask how to do it. You just need to put [ quote]at the front of the part you reply to and [/ quote] at the end of it.

 

[skookumchuck]

Thanks, i have no problem handling it. I do maintain that in my experience peeps who start to call others names in a discussion have issues that i prefer not to deal with.

 

[L Gilbert]

Thanks, i have no problem handling it. I do maintain that in my experience peeps who start to call others names in a discussion have issues that i prefer not to deal with.

Suit yourself. Ignore my posts if you wish then.
But choosing to remain ignorant is deserving of terms like "stupidity" and "idiotic" and "foolish", IMO.