Telus Blocks Ports

PATTISW

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Telus blocks ports for its ADSL customers.
I, as a Telus’ customer consider myself being betrayed and would like to hear community’s input on the issue of Telus blocking ports. I think it was against any normal business practice rules and I am sure it was illegal too. I would like to launch a legal action against Telus but I cannot do it alone. If anyone can add your arguments to the list below and/or would like to join, please contact me (see e-mail at the bottom) and please use at least one word TELUS in the subject for proper routing of your message to me.

In my opinion Telus’ advertising is deceptive/misleading. Nowhere on the sign up page or in the conditions (which I signed for and paid for) was said that any part of my service will be blocked. TOS says that I should not operate any server and I do not, BUT I need those ports for a different reason and should be able to use them as I paid for full service.


Telus changed its conditions without proper notification of its customers whose business like mine became affected. I’ve lost clients, real money and potential money. I also lost a lot of time troubleshooting my network assuming that it is on my side. I would like to be compensated for my direct and indirect losses AND I would like to impose punitive damages on Telus so it would not have a habit of f**king its customers this way.


Since my service was degraded I would like to be compensated for it and the price I pay reduced.


If I am forced to switch to another provider I want all my expenses including original Telus’ setup fees to be compensated.


Telus may be abusing its monopoly power (if not legally, likely de-facto). They force me to upgrade to a more expensive package that I do not need, which is for sure abuse of consumer’s trust and I would like to find out if that is a violation of a law or a consumer protection act etc. Just recall what Microsoft was sued for? If I understand it correctly it was implied that they were overcharging its customers, forced to use services that customers did not want to pay for and abusing their monopoly power. So, how much different it is from what Telus does? Why nobody cares?


In the meanwhile I encourage everyone affected to at least file a CRTC complaint here:

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/RapidsCCM/Register.asp?lang=E

TELUS representatives, if you read this and it does not go to your deaf ears as usual, you are welcome to contact me too.

Everybody else: please send me your thoughts and ideas about what we, as consumers can do about it

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Isengard

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If I understand correctly, you're using your internet connection for your business, are you using a business plan with Telus? If not, I guess that Telus is in its right to block all those ports. Most of the ISP block ports and when they say to not use a server, they mean FTP, P2P, IRC, SMTP, HTTP.... Home internet services usually give you an internet acces with e-mail accounts, and by internet access, it means the right to surf the web. But, I don't know what is in Telus contract, I'm referring to my ISP's contract which states all of the above clearly.

So, are you using home or business plan?
 

smarttech

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Yes, it is for business, but it is a basic package. Yet it costs almost twice as much as the same package for residential. So what am I paing twice as much? And they have another package that is much more expensive than mine but it says that I will have 2 static ip addresses (for $25 !) and will be allowed to have a server. It is none of their business what I am using if I pay for bandwidth and if I need those ports for testing or VoIP it does not mean that I operate a server.

Please do nto reply here as I am not sure if I will have time to come back here, but feel free to e-mail me or check the updates here:

http://www.geocities.com/teluscustomer/

Thank you for your input.
 
smarttech said:
Yes, it is for business, but it is a basic package. Yet it costs almost twice as much as the same package for residential. So what am I paing twice as much? And they have another package that is much more expensive than mine but it says that I will have 2 static ip addresses (for $25 !) and will be allowed to have a server. It is none of their business what I am using if I pay for bandwidth and if I need those ports for testing or VoIP it does not mean that I operate a server.

Please do nto reply here as I am not sure if I will have time to come back here, but feel free to e-mail me or check the updates here:

http://www.geocities.com/teluscustomer/

Thank you for your input.

OK, I know he's never coming back, but I just gotta say...

Telus has been known to block ports. Actually, in the last month or so I know of two of my cohorts that have had their ports blocked. I, on the other hand, run a web, smtp, pop, ftp, telnet, and ssh server on their standard ports and have never had a problem with my ISP.

The magic is usually bandwidth. If your bandwidth is reasonable, you tend to stay off your ISP's radar. If you hit the 50GB or so mark then Shaw will certainly look your way. Telus openly tells their customers that they don't monitor bandwidth, but there's definitely something that triggers to them to take a look at you. If it's not bandwidth, I don't know what it is, but it's something.

So....general rule....don't run a server and suck all the bandwidth you can get out of your ISP. That tends to piss them off and then they'll find your server.

Having said that, there is at least one ISP that will let you run servers on a residential account. I'm not going to post it here out of decency, but if anyone is interested I would be happy to talk in private about it.
 

smarttech

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Telus does not have anybody on a radar or not. They reconfigured their network which affected everyone at once regardless of their traffic.

Telus is not able (according to the inside information from BC) to block or unblock ports for individual accounts. It depends on your plan that you subscribed to and then the configuration is the same for all the subscribers.

I had virtually no traffic - only occasional testing if networking equipment - routers, firewalls, VPN, even some servers, but I never operated a server, so the traffic was really next to nothing. It could not trigger any "radar".
 

LadyC

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Holy! What are the odds that you'd return on the very day that someone replied to your post? And barely more than half an hour later, too.

You have e-mail notification checked, don't you?
;)
 

smarttech

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Odds are zero. It is ONLY thanks to notification which existence I did not know about when I was writing the very first post. ;-)
 

Volvokenny

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Greetings!

Pattisw...I understand your pain and speaking aside from your issue with Telus I have to agree that Shaw provides a better support in all departments. In early 90's Telus mobility screwd me royaly and almost cost me my job. My cell phone was used for after hours emergencies and because I missed a payment of $40 bucks (my very and only missed payment) they disconnected my service that overnight. Apparrently back then Telus was strict in that regards with new clients. However this issue was resolved with an apology and a free month of airtime...(I rather take my business elswhere but stuck on a 3 year contract). I have to say Telus has improved in the last decade(perhaps more strikes will help!) To avoid most of my problems I usually speak with a higher level of support beacuse 2 out of 20 customer service agent are probably new at the job. I also try to call telus internet support during business hours as they seemed to be local(don't know if it REALLY makes any differents). At last, I tried to be polite and maintain a personal tone of voice even though I am peed off after waiting near hour before I get a live agent.

The reason I wanted to post on this forum is because I need help and perhaps someone may assist me.

I am with Telus high speed lite giving me up to 256 kpbs download and 128 kpbs upload with 10gb uplaod/download usage. A Telus agent said upload usage is free, is this correct?
Is there a free download time with my ISP?

I have also noticed when I check my bandwidth usage some odd days when I have been downloading and they are not posted on my Telus account usage. Is there a reason for that? I mean its even better if I don't get charged.

Your help on this is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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scottyfrog

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For everyone out there with complaints against their telecommunications company, I recently learned about CCTS (Commissioner for complaints for telecommunications services) from my MLA's office. As soon as I threatened going to the CCTS, Rogers bent over backwards for me. I encourage everyone to lodge complaints so that this criminal industry can be held accountable.

CCTS · CPRST
 

scottyfrog

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After fulfilling my initial 2 year contract that I signed with my phone purchase, I decided to change rate plans because I was not using the phone much. I was still using the same phone and did not agree to any NEW contract, but apparently the rate plan I got was subject to a three-year contact. I found this out only a year later when I wanted to cancel my cell phone service. The rate plan was nothing special, they could not produce any signature from me, and they did not save any recording of the phone conversation when I signed up for the plan. But they still wanted to charge me two years of service to cancel my contract. These are shady business tactics and I will not put up with them. My MLA's office was quite happy to offer me info because they deal with complaints from their constituents very regularly. They were the ones who informed me of the CCTS. So once I indicated to Rogers that my next step was the CCTS, they happily cancelled my 'apparent' contract.
The fact is, if a company actually provided excellent service at a fair price then they would not need to lock people into contracts in the deceitful ways that they do.
 

astinjack

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Hi ,
I want to suggest you one thing. That if you want to go against Telus that you can sure go but firstly you have to search all the things, what the problem behind that and you have to also contact with support team . I think they can give you some resolution and let me also . If is'nt it then we will sure come with you agains that.
 

00chuffer

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Has anyone Read the TOS for the Telus internet service? They make you sign all of your god given rights away to use there service. If this was a phone service. They would need a warrant from a judge to do what there doing. Never mind that the are selling this information to other corporations. I have spent a lot of time and money making sure there is no spyware or viruses on my system. Telus uses a backdoor on my outgoing line to spy on what i'm doing. They even have access to this letter I'm writing, As i write it. What law alows them to force canadians to sign away there privacy rights to use there service. You can not use Telus internet unless you agree. we need to petition the crtc to stop this shameful big brother activity.
 

DurkaDurka

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Has anyone Read the TOS for the Telus internet service? They make you sign all of your god given rights away to use there service. If this was a phone service. They would need a warrant from a judge to do what there doing. Never mind that the are selling this information to other corporations. I have spent a lot of time and money making sure there is no spyware or viruses on my system. Telus uses a backdoor on my outgoing line to spy on what i'm doing. They even have access to this letter I'm writing, As i write it. What law alows them to force canadians to sign away there privacy rights to use there service. You can not use Telus internet unless you agree. we need to petition the crtc to stop this shameful big brother activity.

Are you trying to tell me that Telus monitors every single packet sent out of your modem for content? Give me a break. ISP's do some heavy handed things but this isn't one of them.

If your paranoia is such that you think your net travels is worth monitoring, I suggest you get a free vpn account or only use HTTPS, encrypted packets cannot be read other then the host & destination.
 

00chuffer

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It's not being paranoid when they make you sign your rights away before you can use the service. Sure your info and travels are all traceable by anyone that knows how. My problem is that they make a point of signing you privacy rights away to use the service. No matter what they do with the information. Would you be OK with them doing that for you phone service? Listening in to your phone calls without a warrent because you had to sign you rights away to use it? My other problem is that i spend a lot of time and money making sure there is no viruses or spyware eating up my bandwidth or spying to serve me adds and they have a direct back door to my data. So everything i type in an email or search they use to send me customized ads. Next time read the whole post or inform yourself on the subject that way you won't reply with stupid posts.