Teen dad allegedly bit baby's nose off

[gerryh]

Baseless to you Gerry.............. I lived some of them! -

and I've supplied you with links showing otherwise.....and I was a child 50 years ago, I remember also. So was my wife. Both of us were sexually abused. So no, it was no safer back then, than it is now. I would say less safe, as people were less likely to report to the police.

But, that's fine, you continue to live in your world where there was no drug abuse, alcohol abuse, pedophiles, child abuse, rape, sexual assault, physical assault. Where every where was rainbows and daffodils.

 

[JLM]

and I've supplied you with links showing otherwise.....and I was a child 50 years ago, I remember also. So was my wife. Both of us were sexually abused. So no, it was no safer back then, than it is now. I would say less safe, as people were less likely to report to the police.

But, that's fine, you continue to live in your world where there was no drug abuse, alcohol abuse, pedophiles, child abuse, rape, sexual assault, physical assault. Where every where was rainbows and daffodils.

I don't recall saying none of this stuff EVER happened.

 

[gerryh]

I don't recall saying none of this stuff EVER happened.

You constantly post how things like child abuse, rape, and pedophilia are so much worse now than "back in the good ole days". Yet stats prove otherwise.

 

[JLM]

You constantly post how things like child abuse, rape, and pedophilia are so much worse now than "back in the good ole days". Yet stats prove otherwise.

OK, you win this round Gerry and I agree with that statement. But I still think the abuse is getting more bizarre, not that any of it was ever good. Also my statement wasn't just confined to abuse and sexual deviants but to the entire gamut of sh*t that goes on these days.

 

[Goober]

OK, you win this round Gerry and I agree with that statement. But I still think the abuse is getting more bizarre, not that any of it was ever good. Also my statement wasn't just confined to abuse and sexual deviants but to the entire gamut of sh*t that goes on these days.

The reasons it may appear to be more common is that today we are connected to so much information.

 

[Sal]

Had this talk quite a few years back with my mother.

When family sexual abuse began to surface she would not believe it. Categorically denied anyone could do such a thing to their own child or relative. I believe part of the reason for that was because the neighbourhood where she grew up all had extended families. Her grandmother lived upstairs and two uncles shared part of the house. Seldom would a kid be alone for long with any one adult.

She did finally concede that yes, it did happen and people weren't just making this stuff up.

It's funny too because it was a much harsher time back then when she grew up. Her mother was widowed at 28 and struggled to raise three young girls alone for a time when her husband died in the war... they were often hungry but yet she had amazingly good memories of growing up.

 

[spaminator]

Had this talk quite a few years back with my mother.

When family sexual abuse began to surface she would not believe it. Categorically denied anyone could do such a thing to their own child or relative. I believe part of the reason for that was because the neighbourhood where she grew up all had extended families. Her grandmother lived upstairs and two uncles shared part of the house. Seldom would a kid be alone for long with any one adult.

She did finally concede that yes, it did happen and people weren't just making this stuff up.

It's funny too because it was a much harsher time back then when she grew up. Her mother was widowed at 28 and struggled to raise three young girls alone for a time when her husband died in the war... they were often hungry but yet she had amazingly good memories of growing up.

i'm sorry to hear that.

 

[Sal]

i'm sorry to hear that.

aw, that's very kind Spam....she was an awesome woman...our past makes us what we are...

 

[JLM]

aw, that's very kind Spam....she was an awesome woman...our past makes us what we are...

Something to do with "adversity builds character" ,methinks! -

 

[Sal]

Something to do with "adversity builds character" ,methinks! -

I don't know JLM...adversity can build one up or knock one down. With a child particularly it can depend upon the adults around them and what they tell the child about the circumstance and how they teach the child to cope. That doesn't happen in a vacuum. Also from a gene pool perspective we are not all created equally.

The same gene pool and circumstance may yield a psychopath or a saint.

 

[JLM]

I don't know JLM...adversity can build one up or knock one down. With a child particularly it can depend upon the adults around them and what they tell the child about the circumstance and how they teach the child to cope. That doesn't happen in a vacuum. Also from a gene pool perspective we are not all created equally.

The same gene pool and circumstance may yield a psychopath or a saint.

Yep, like I've always said, Sal, "there's an exception to every rule" and adults and parents definitely play a role. Thinking further about what Gerry said yesterday and he's quite right about pedophiles in that their numbers probably haven't changed, but I think what has changed in 50 years is the amount of subversive substances in use and the resulting reduction of inhibitions and the increase in the 60s of the philosophy of people "doing their own thing" (and f**K everyone else)-

 

[gerryh]

Yep, like I've always said, Sal, "there's an exception to every rule" and adults and parents definitely play a role. Thinking further about what Gerry said yesterday and he's quite right about pedophiles in that their numbers probably haven't changed, but I think what has changed in 50 years is the amount of subversive substances in use and the resulting reduction of inhibitions and the increase in the 60s of the philosophy of people "doing their own thing" (and f**K everyone else)-

Ok, do you remember at least reading about the "roaring twenty's"?

 

[JLM]

Ok, do you remember at least reading about the "roaring twenty's"?

About Scarface and Dillinger and the boys and how it all came crashing down on Oct. 29 1929.

 

[gerryh]

About Scarface and Dillinger and the boys and how it all came crashing down on Oct. 29 1929.

That answers my question. Never mind.

 

[Sal]

Yep, like I've always said, Sal, "there's an exception to every rule" and adults and parents definitely play a role. Thinking further about what Gerry said yesterday and he's quite right about pedophiles in that their numbers probably haven't changed, but I think what has changed in 50 years is the amount of subversive substances in use and the resulting reduction of inhibitions and the increase in the 60s of the philosophy of people "doing their own thing" (and f**K everyone else)-

Yes what Gerry said about pedophiles is correct their percentage to the population has not changed. Our awareness has changed.

To me the 60's philosophy was about free love and finding ones self and pursuing one's passion. I actually think that is a healthy way to be. The better one understands themselves and accepts themselves and loves themselves the more one is able to give of themselves to others in a healthy way.

If buddy here had been brought up that way he would not have chewed a third of his kid's nose off. He was ill prepared for a baby and did not know how to soothe the child. He allowed his rage and frustration to overcome him. He is dangerous. His grandmother raised him so prior to that who knows what kind of environment he existed in. He was an infant too once. Obviously not a Beaver Cleaver existence.

Can he be helped? I don't know. Right now that baby takes precedence over him and his problems.

As for addictions and substance abuse I don't know the stats on it.

 

[JLM]

That answers my question. Never mind.

Just glad to be of help!