Technical question on WTC collapse

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So, lots of talk about the melting point of steel and how much heat is required to weaken it. Now, can someone tell me what the combustion point of demolition explosives is? I mean, wether the temps in the tower reached 500c, 800c or 1200c can be argued by the engineers and conspiracy buffs. But how did they manage not only to sneak all the tonnes of explosives that would be required without being noticed, but also to prepare those explosives to resist the intense heat until the designated CIA guy hit the trigger?
 

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So, lots of talk about the melting point of steel and how much heat is required to weaken it. Now, can someone tell me what the combustion point of demolition explosives is? I mean, wether the temps in the tower reached 500c, 800c or 1200c can be argued by the engineers and conspiracy buffs. But how did they manage not only to sneak all the tonnes of explosives that would be required without being noticed, but also to prepare those explosives to resist the intense heat until the designated CIA guy hit the trigger?


OMG, why didn't I think of that, thanx. Excellent point. I wonder how this will be explained away?
 

Johnny Utah

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So, lots of talk about the melting point of steel and how much heat is required to weaken it. Now, can someone tell me what the combustion point of demolition explosives is? I mean, wether the temps in the tower reached 500c, 800c or 1200c can be argued by the engineers and conspiracy buffs. But how did they manage not only to sneak all the tonnes of explosives that would be required without being noticed, but also to prepare those explosives to resist the intense heat until the designated CIA guy hit the trigger?
Better yet how did they manage to cut all the key structural points in the Twin Towers without anyone noticing? This the Conspiracy Theory Moonbats have no answer for..
:rolleyes:
 

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Not only that, but the largest demolition of a building was in Detroit a few decades ago, and it took three weeks of working every day to get the thing set up.

But I guess to the conspiracists, all you'd have to do is get a knapsack full of a chemical and take up in the elevator mid-morning.
 

Johnny Utah

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Not only that, but the largest demolition of a building was in Detroit a few decades ago, and it took three weeks of working every day to get the thing set up.

But I guess to the conspiracists, all you'd have to do is get a knapsack full of a chemical and take up in the elevator mid-morning.
Not only that Bush was planning 9/11 while he was Governor of Texas, he had special ops guys come in late at night to cut key structural points in the Twin Towers, had all flights diverted the passenger's were killed their organs sold to China, he had the passengers of Flight 93 shot he also had Military planes go into the Towers. Omg the Moonbats were right, oh wait a tick some of that was South Park's version, silly me..
:rolleyes:

 
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danieltowsey

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Scary TRUTH

Scary TRUTH by Daniel J Towsey

If you could get past the controlled brainwashing you might have a chance...I have posted some very intelligent
articles and links..If you took the time to start reading them..you might be on your way to deprograming
yourself and really be able to think for yourself..

And I say as far as the conspiracy theorists go...There is conspiracies, and people theorize on them based on
facts....The conspiracies are real..and only the idiots can't see that....but it is no longer theory as to what
happened on 911..Is is a fact of what the controllers are doing...

Thank GOD for the internet.It provides the only means of getting true information out...so far...but I am sure
that well not last..as they control everything else..so this web well not stay free for long....Learn the truth
while you still can...

There is plenty of articles that can answer any questions you may have about 911 and all other topics too
.......You must believe that all the billion+ people on the net are all idiots.Sorry to burst your over
inflated bubble of ignorance..but...Only an idiot can't see the obvious....


Now about that person earlier that said that all this atttention being paid to 911 is disrespecting the
victims....are you ever wrong....It is amazing how much people care about the victims...we are all victims...
and if you could comprehend the magnitude of the deceptions going on, you would realize this. The people who
have never taken the time to truely research the wealth of evidence available on the net, are the ones who are
disrespecting the victims..

As far as truth goes...you and most people have no idea what that is..as you have always gotten brainwashing
and propaganda all your life...You well never hear any truth from the ones in control...Thats how they stay in
control...through ignorance...

What you well never understand is this corruption of society has been going on for a very long time, and is
controlled by one group of people....can you guess who they are?......Your obviously not ready for this
information and I fear you never well be..for as long as you listen to the controllers and not the individuals
on the net who are sharing the truth with the world..at great risk to themselves and their families..

Only the brave tell the truth...all others are just cowards...truth is the most scariest thing...for it forces
one to look inside themselves..and realize their own faults...

The problem with people is they have not been conditioned to hearing the truth and have absolutely no mental
facualties for dealing with it..they are therefore actually brain dead.. Truth makes ones mind stronger and
lies and deceptions weakens it..to the point of mental illness..Maybe thats why society is so heavily
medicated....and truth stimulates the mind...this explains why so many have turned to street drugs...They are
doing what they can to stimulate their minds to replace the truth..oh and guess who invented the street drugs?
and distributes them...Your not ready for that answer either...for I can not tell the truth to brain dead
people..I fear it will cause you a stroke, or worse.

I think the air holes in your box are to small...your brains are starving for air..get out of the box and see
the light..be enlightened..but do it really slowly..thats the only way you well be able to do it..as your mind
is very slow from the lack of true mental stimulation...

Now all that I have just written will not offend anyone that is already enlightened...it well only offend those
who are not truthful..Unfortunately truth always offends ignorance.

Therefore from the stupid responces I have seen on this tread from a world of evidence as to what really
happened on 911 and is happening to this planet at the hands of a small group who are so mentally ill from all
the wealth that they have which they have been using to influence all decent human activities.....They have
taken over the world by creating the Federal Reserve...They have been able to keep spending and spending none
existent money printed out of thin air...They have used this never ending supply of cash to buy and control
everything in society...and most of the world to..through the American "Federal Reserve Notes" (Notice they are
not called "Dollars")...Open up your febel minds and come to the scary realization...that we have all been
fooled and are almost completely under their total control...They are really afraid that society is going to
wake up soon and realize the magnitude of the situation...If you could understand even a little bit of what
they are doing..it well be a begining..That artificial standard of living that the US is enjoying well come to
a huge crash soon...It can not go on for ever...Your country is now at 8.6 trillion, but if you add in all the
rest of public debts..its at over 38 trillion...all from worhtless fake cash...Now that they have created free
trade and are shipping all your good paying jobs to countries that don't respect individuality you no longer
are a strong economic country..Haven't you noticed how they have privatized all public assets..Even all your
Parks are now completely under the control of the UN..They have created the UN to control everyone..The UN is
not a democratic institution...Even the US military is now in the process of becoming a branch of the UN....Are
you getting the picture yet? I could write for ever on what is going on...Only the uninformed are calling the
people who are theorizing on the facts..."Conspiracy nuts" and where do you think that expression came from?
The same place everything else you think came from..the brainwashing machine...Are you aware of the over 600
interment prisons that they have built and are now staffed all through the US?

Like I said earlier..the time is running out for you to discover what is going on...WAKE UP AMERICA !...Your
world is being destroyed on purpose...Why do you think they have been staging these terrorist act all over the
world? Including 911..They are controlling you through fear....only cowards fear...If you fear the truth..What
does that make you?

If you really understood what has been going on in the US since 911, You would realize you no longer have an effective constitution or bill of rights..Even Abeus Corpus is now dead..What you now have is the "Patriot Act"...the name of which was picked to deliberately disarm you from objecting to it replacing the Constitution.....

So if you want to trivialize the truth about 911..so be it...But I just hope that the masses well come to their senses soon...But from the responces I have seen in this tread..I fear the world is doomed...

Now if your not closed minded and want to read the plan that was written over a hundred years ago....go look at 'The Protocols of the learned Elders of Zion"...but don't be fooled by the fools like the ones I have read in this forum...That always attack the truth..They claim that the Protocols are a forgery...I ask you then a forgery of what....Are not forgeries always to duplicate the real thing?..In every detail....

"AMERICA THE LAND OF THE BRAVE AND THE FREE"......I hate to say but thats not the case any more...for no one is free without the truth...

Why do you think they are putting computer controlled voting machines all through the US?.....The answer to that is so simply obvious that it does not need an answer.....You people need to get back to vote counting by hand..but before you do that read the article I posted on the net almost seven years ago...just type into google..."Corrupt Canadian Elections"..so you don't make the mistake of having all the vote results computer controlled from a central hidden location without public scrutiny....


Now after all this I hope that maybe I will reach some of you sleeping zoombies...

Sincerly Daniel J Towsey

Posted originally on http://forums.canadiancontent.net/u...ical-question-wtc-collapse-10.html#post740058http://Forums.CanadianContent.net/ Posted October 23, 2006 at 5:35am

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ottawabill

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How can I every believe in Government conspiracies..... These are the people who deliver cheques to dead people, pay $3000.00 for a bolt and loss elections by opening their mouths..but all of a sudden they can make everything work without a hitch HA!!! if they could actually do that I'd vote fer em!!
 

Logic 7

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Not only that Bush was planning 9/11 while he was Governor of Texas, he had special ops guys come in late at night to cut key structural points in the Twin Towers, had all flights diverted the passenger's were killed their organs sold to China, he had the passengers of Flight 93 shot he also had Military planes go into the Towers. Omg the Moonbats were right, oh wait a tick some of that was South Park's version, silly me..
:rolleyes:


What about bin laden who perfectly plan the impossible from his deep cave in afganisthan?
Where we can only conclude, that he was a genius to plan this event, but not smart enough to realize it will only advantage their ennemy's business coorporation, and the plan made by PNAC in 1998, which is exactly what the us are doing in middle east, sorry i am not a simple minded enough to believe that crap.
 

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I think not

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Johnny Utah

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What about bin laden who perfectly plan the impossible from his deep cave in afganisthan?
Where we can only conclude, that he was a genius to plan this event, but not smart enough to realize it will only advantage their ennemy's business coorporation, and the plan made by PNAC in 1998, which is exactly what the us are doing in middle east, sorry i am not a simple minded enough to believe that crap.
As I said you need some help you're conspiracy rants so how simple minded you are, call Dr. Phil..
:rolleyes:
 

TenPenny

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What about bin laden who perfectly plan the impossible from his deep cave in afganisthan?
Where we can only conclude, that he was a genius to plan this event, but not smart enough to realize it will only advantage their ennemy's business coorporation, and the plan made by PNAC in 1998, which is exactly what the us are doing in middle east, sorry i am not a simple minded enough to believe that crap.

A perfect plan? I don't think so. Only 75% of the planes hit their targets, and 25% were pretty lame.
Plan the impossible? How could you consider it impossible. It happened. Ergo it was possible.

You need to brush up on your thinking, man.
 

danieltowsey

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I guess not

In responce to 'I guess not's cartoon'

Your name says it right.. A few points your cartoon over looks.

First..wheres the relatives from any of the airplane passengers..I have never ever seen them or any stories about them...Isn't that kind of strange? this aproximately 3000 dead...is always considered to be the body count from the WTC..so wheres all the others?

The planes that hit the WTC had no "knobs" in them flying them..because they were gray military remote controlled planes..Now you probably want me to believe there is no such things as remote controlled planes...

Thats just like someone I know just told me when I asked them "What do you think about that torture bill that Congrees OKed and George Bush just passed into law that just eliminated a 700 year old world wide law of abeus corpus..I then told her they can now grab anyone from anywhere and torture at anytime without any reason with no legal rights at all.they can and even and will kill the tortured.she thought I was nuts and said no one would pass such a law and hung up on me...Notice how they came out with that story about the politician who likes young boys and blew the story huge..right after he signed that bill into law to distract the news from reporting on the most horrible law ever passed in US history..or for that matter..anywhere on earth..EVER!

Oh but you probably think I am some conspiracy nut and that never happened either..RIGHT?

now back to this cartooon..Osama Bin Laden is and always was a CIA agent..

The cartoon also says"we could of just bought the oil anyway" wrong again..They destroyed his sovereign country that never threatened nor was it ever a threat to the thieving American killers because he had started selling his oil only in Euro dollars..and refused the fake American.."Federal Reserve NOTES" that are just printed out of thin air..the notes are not and have not been for a very long time now, backed up by gold..The gold was long ago sold off to pay a debt that was owed to a foreign country..

Oh there goes the school bell........see you students tomorrow...I will be having a surprise test on this lesson in a few days..I suggest you go out and do some research on your own..to help you to better understand and confirm the lesson thought today...but be very careful what you sign out of the library or the homeland defence will come and seize you in the middle of the night and torture you until you die..and no one will be allowed to know..did you know that it is even written in the Patriot act that you can and will be seized if you talk or tell anyone about the activities of the Homeland defense SPOOKS..

[Hypothetical] News report:
Teacher in small backwards USA town was killed by an irrate gun toting angry father..the father shot the teacher many times...there is evidence that the shots were all intended to wound and injure and not kill. He said that he was just thinking about the torture bill and that it was fitting..the teacher bled to death and suffered for along time before death.

The father later said that the teacher was a terrorist.

This case never went to court for anyone labeled as a terrorist has no rights and they don't matter as a humans..thats the American Zionist way...
 
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DurkaDurka

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In responce to 'I guess not's cartoon'

You name says it right.. A few points your cartoon over looks.

First..wheres the relatives from any of the airplane passengers..I have never ever seen them or any stories about the them...Itn't that kind of strange? this aproximately 3000 dead...is always considered to be the body count from the WTC..so wheres all the others?

The planes that hit the WTC had no "knobs" in them flying them..because they were gray military remote controlled planes..Now you probably want me to believe there is no such things as remote controlled planes...

Thats just like someone I know just told me when I asked them "What do you think about that torture bill that Congrees OKed and George Bush just passed into law that just eliminated a 700 year old world wide law of abeus corpus..I then told her they can now grab anyone from anywhere and torture at anytime without any reason with no legal rights at all.they can and even and will kill the tortured.she thought I was nuts and said no one would pass such a law and hung up on me...Notice how they came out with that story about the politician who likes young boys and blew the story huge..right after he signed that bill into law to distract the news from reporting on the most horrible law ever passed in US history..or for that matter..anywhere on earth..EVER!

Oh but you probably think I am some conspiracy nut and that never happened either..RIGHT?

now back to this cartooon..Osama Bin Laden is and always was a CIA agent..

The cartoon also says"we could of just bought the oil anyway" wrong again..They destroyed his sovereign country that never threaten nor was it ever a threat to the thieving American killers because he had started selling his oil only in Euro dollars..and refused the fake American.."Federal Reserve NOTES" that are just printed out of thin air..the notes are not and have not been for a very long time now, backed up by gold..The gold was long ago sold off the pay a debt that was owed to a foreign country..

Oh there goes the school bell........see you students tomorrow...I will be having a surprise test on this lesson in a few days..I suggest you go out and do some research on your own..to help you to better understand and confirm the lesson thought today...but be very careful what you sign out of the library or the homeland defence well come and seize you in the middle of the night and torture you until you die..and no one will be allowed to know..did you know that it is even written in the Patriot act that you can and will be seized if you talk or tell anyone about the activities of the Homeland defense SPOOKS..

[Hypothetical] News report:
Teacher in small backwards USA town was killed by an irrate gun toting angry father..the father shot the teacher many times...there is evidence that the shots were all intended to wound and injure and not kill. He said that he was just thinking about the torture bill and that it was fitting..the teacher bled to death and suffered for along time before death.

The father later said that the teacher was a terrorist.

This case never went to court for anyone labeled as a terrorist has no rights and they don't matter as a humans..thats the American Zionist way...

In other news.....
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2006/10/24/polar-bear.html
 

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Daniel and Logic the disrespect you and two have show for those who died that day make my skin crawl with fear. People like you infect this planet with your paranoia and cowardly fear. Daniel real people died in the Air Craft that hit the twin towers, and you and your elk will reap what you have sown. Mostly garbage and lies. I hope both of you have to someday face the families of those who died that day, a face to face where you are accountable for the lies and filth you spew. Evil, pure evil.