A state is not a material thing. It is an abstract. It is the exercise of power. If it cannot enforce its will then it doesn't even exist.
Taking Back a Stolen Homeland - Scotland
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A state is not a material thing. It is an abstract. It is the exercise of power. If it cannot enforce its will then it doesn't even exist.
Hence my topic on the USA after 1850. an attempt to enforce power relationships gone horribly wrong.
Pres. Buchanan wanted to turn Kansas into a slave state...
The Sex Pistols - God Save The Queen - YouTube
SEX PISTOLS LYRICS
"God Save The Queen"
God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems
Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid
When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming
No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me
No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you
SEX PISTOLS LYRICS
"God Save The Queen"
God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems
Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid
When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming
No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me
No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you
According to the articles I posted above, you're wrong. The Queen owns the sixteen countries of which she is Head of State, and it is separate from her role as Head of State.
... And what if, Canadians (for example) unilaterally 'took back' those lands years ago?
Much like the unilateral declaration that they belonged to the monarchy in the first place.
As the old expression goes; possession is 9/10 of the law
They didn't though, did they? And could they even do that? The lands aren't yours, they're the Queen's.
And remember, those "Canadian" lands were ours - or, rather, the monarch's - BEFORE they were yours. You wouldn't be "taking back" anything.
I did
You bet it can be done.
Absentee landlord... We talked about this earlier. You want the lands back, then kick-in for the development, upgrades, maintenance, etc.
Well, that's changed now
And they were ours before they were the monarch's. So what's your point, John Bull?
We don't want the "lands back". They belong to the QUEEN.
How has it changed? The land of Canada belongs to the Queen.
No, they weren't. The lands making up what are now Canada and the USA belonged to the British monarch BEFORE the nation states of Canada and the USA even came into existence. Whole swathes of North America were claimed by Britain for the monarch BEFORE Canada and the USA even existed. Canada and the USA wouldn't exist today were it not for the British Empire.
Didn't you study history at school?
I'm not talking about Canda and the USA, genius. I'm talking about Turtle Island.
By the way, the lands making up what are now the USA also belonged to Spain, France, and Russia.
Didn't you study history at school?
Excellent, we're on the same page then
Keep up with the discussion here BL... They belong to Canadians now.
Yeah, but none of those three own any of Canada, do they? The Queen does.
I'm getting sick of repeating myself.
QUEEN ELIZABETH II OWNS THE COUNTRY OF CANADA AND 15 OTHER NATIONS.
Canadian land is the QUEEN'S.
Poor John Bull. Nobody cares.
I do have a question for you. Seein' as how you already showed your penetrating comprehension of English law, I was kinda wondering.
Charlie-boy is on record as saying all he really wants to be is a tampon. So here's the question. If he becomes king, can he declare himself a tampon and make it stick, legally? Can he choose to be called King Light-Days? Or His Imperial Heavy-Flow Majesty?
Doesn't change the fact that you stated, and I quote:
"The lands making up what are now Canada and the USA belonged to the British monarch BEFORE the nation states of Canada and the USA even came into existence."
And you were wrong. Again.
I'm not the one who claimed falsely that the land making up what is now the U.S. belonged to the British crown.
Most of it didn't. So who's in denial of reality?
No, I wasn't. You're wrong.
The last time I consulted my history books Canada and the USA didn't even exist when the British arrived in North America and claimed vast swathes of it for the monarch. I can never remember being told by my history teacher than Britain invaded the USA and Canada. USA and Canada were PRODUCTS of the British Empire. You weren't invaded by it.
The reality is that the British monarch owned that land BEFORE Canada and the USA even existed.
Oh, dear.
So you deny that much of the land that makes up what is now the U.S. belonged to France, Spain, and Russia?
Wow. Drop us a line if you're ever in the same county as reality, hear?