Yet the guy can't understand how a man that makes blindfolded kids taste semen, could be called a pedophile....:roll:
Syria's protests have escalated.
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Yet the guy can't understand how a man that makes blindfolded kids taste semen, could be called a pedophile....:roll:
I see the moderators have cleaned up GH's forum rule violating posts. Thank you moderators.
Not only have I not defended Hamas and Hezbollah attacks, I have repeatedly condemned them. I can reference many posts.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/104277-these-actions-war-crimes.html
How many more references would you like where I clearly indicated that I am against Palestinian war crimes? I can reference dozens more.
I shouldn't have to even post a single example in my defense. The burden of proof should be on you to back up your unfounded accusations with supporting evidence.
BTW, you're rage indicates you have some sort of problem. I suggest you seek help.
I never said that either.
Yes there are some liers posting in this thread and its pretty easy to prove who they are. They are the ones trying to hijack this thread with unsupported allegations about me, rather than sticking to the topic.
Back on subject:
Prime Minister Stephen Harper will raise the crisis in Syria on his trip to China, a top Canadian government official says, a day after China joined Russia in vetoing a UN Security Council resolution calling on Syria President Bashar Assad to step down....
I agree with the sentiment, but I doubt Harper will have any influence on China. The last time Harper went to China, he was more or less politely ignored. Maybe Harper will surprise everyone by saying or doing something spectacular which will reflect on Canada in a positive way. I'll withhold judgement for the moment.
I see the moderators have cleaned up the filth spewed by GH. You moderators have a thankless job. I for one would like to say thank you for helping keep this forum clean.
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You didn't defend them when they hijacked food shipments, because they eventually gave it back?
You have never called the Hezbollah or Hamas freedom fighters?
You've never defended how Hamas came to power, by citing how terrible Fatah was?
You've said defended retaliation by Hamas, to Israeli provocation?
You don't have to condone militant action, to defend them.
That's one of the biggest reasons you are in no way shape or form, anything like Gandhi.
Is that because you have only two fingers, perhaps you just need a new keyboard layout, for me this would be the best because my right has more arthritis and it runs the mouse. I can see where it would be faster and if I was much younger it would be worth the retraining.
Mar 21st, 2011 Syria now faces growing protests
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Schoolchildren????
They were writing anti-government graffiti on school walls and grain silos... I imagine the parents have joined the revolt too.
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Officers Fire on Crowd as Syrian Protests Grow
By THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: March 20, 2011
DAMASCUS, Syria — Protesters set fire to the ruling Baath Party’s headquarters and other government buildings in the southern city of Dara’a on Sunday, as protesters rallied and clashed with the police for a third straight day, witnesses said.
Police officers fired live ammunition into the crowds, killing at least one and wounding scores of others, witnesses said. But the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, also made some conciliatory gestures in an apparent attempt to stop the cycle of public anger that has fueled uprisings in other Arab countries in the past three months.
Syria, a police state known for its brutal suppression of any public protests, seemed immune to the wave of uprisings sweeping the Arab world until the past week, when demonstrations took place in several cities. The southern town of Dara’a, where citizens were outraged by the arrest of more than a dozen schoolchildren, has seen the largest protests by far. Thousands took to the streets on Sunday, as they have for several days now....
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/wo...t/21syria.htmlBy THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: March 20, 2011
DAMASCUS, Syria — Protesters set fire to the ruling Baath Party’s headquarters and other government buildings in the southern city of Dara’a on Sunday, as protesters rallied and clashed with the police for a third straight day, witnesses said.
Police officers fired live ammunition into the crowds, killing at least one and wounding scores of others, witnesses said. But the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, also made some conciliatory gestures in an apparent attempt to stop the cycle of public anger that has fueled uprisings in other Arab countries in the past three months.
Syria, a police state known for its brutal suppression of any public protests, seemed immune to the wave of uprisings sweeping the Arab world until the past week, when demonstrations took place in several cities. The southern town of Dara’a, where citizens were outraged by the arrest of more than a dozen schoolchildren, has seen the largest protests by far. Thousands took to the streets on Sunday, as they have for several days now....
Schoolchildren????
They were writing anti-government graffiti on school walls and grain silos... I imagine the parents have joined the revolt too.
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...The unrest began on Friday when a protest was apparently sparked by the arrest of schoolchildren. They were said to have been daubing slogans from the Tunisian and Egyptian revolutions on walls.
Security forces were reported to have fired live bullets on Friday’s demonstration, killing four people.
Saturday’s funeral for the victims turned into another protest, with people reportedly calling for “revolution”. By one estimate, 20,000 people gathered for the occasion....
FT.com / Middle East & North Africa - Syrian protesters set alight Ba?ath party?HQ__________________________Security forces were reported to have fired live bullets on Friday’s demonstration, killing four people.
Saturday’s funeral for the victims turned into another protest, with people reportedly calling for “revolution”. By one estimate, 20,000 people gathered for the occasion....
Peace be with you
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I still say you're a lying piece of crap.
That thread supports my contention more than it supports yours considering the vast majority of links you provided were anti Israel. As Bear pointed out, you have made it perfectly clear over the YEARS that you support Palestinians in their "struggle" against the evil Israelis. You have supported both Hamas and Hezbollah by statements like "I understand why" and "what do you expect when". You have always have excuses for why Palestinian groups attack Israel. That is passive support.
You already stated this at the beginning of your message. What's the matter...... you going senile? Or are you so stupid you can't remember what you wrote, even when it was only a few minutes prior.
On 18 March2011 the most serious unrest to take place in Syria for decades erupted.[71] After Friday prayers, thousands of protesters demanding an end to alleged government corruption took to the streets of cities across Syria.[72] The protesters were met with a violent crackdown orchestrated by state security forces. The protesters chanted "God, Syria, Freedom" and anti-corruption slogans.[73]
Amateur video footage posted on YouTube and Twitter showed large groups of protesters in several cities, such as Damascus, Daraa, Homs, Baniyas, al-Qamishli and Deir ez-Zor.[74][75][76] In Damascus, Syrian security forces dressed as civilians broke up protests outside the Umayyad Mosque, dragging away at least two activists.[74] In the southern city of Daraa, people chanted against Rami Makhlouf, who is the cousin of al-Assad. The regime responded with helicopters and water cannons. There were unconfirmed reports that four protesters had been killed and hundreds injured.[71][73] A resident said that Syrian security forces have killed three protesters in Daraa.[71] The Syrian Government responded by claiming that unnamed "infiltrators" had been attempting to cause chaos.[77]
21 March
Protests started to spread further across the country.[84] Thousands of people took to the streets in Daraa and troops were sent to the city.[85] Hundreds of people protested in Jassem and there were reports of protests in Banias, Homs and Hama.[85][86]
It was reported that an 11-year-old boy had died of wounds suffered when Syrian security forces dispersed a protest rally in Daraa,[87] and meanwhile, the Beirut-based al Akhbar newspaper accused Lebanese caretaker Prime Minister Saad Hariri's Future Movement of paying the Syrian protesters something that which he immediately denied.[88]
Demonstrators in Daraa set fire to the ruling Baath Party’s headquarters and other government buildings. Police officers fired live ammunition into the crowds, killing at least one and wounding scores of others, witnesses said. al-Assad made some conciliatory gestures, but crowds continued to gather in and around the Omari mosque in Dara’a, chanting their demands: the release of all political prisoners; trials for those who shot and killed protesters; the abolition of Syria’s 48-year emergency law; more freedoms; and an end to pervasive corruption.[89]
Nearly a year later, and now the CBC shows the gory details daily.... We are being prepped for war...
Amateur video footage posted on YouTube and Twitter showed large groups of protesters in several cities, such as Damascus, Daraa, Homs, Baniyas, al-Qamishli and Deir ez-Zor.[74][75][76] In Damascus, Syrian security forces dressed as civilians broke up protests outside the Umayyad Mosque, dragging away at least two activists.[74] In the southern city of Daraa, people chanted against Rami Makhlouf, who is the cousin of al-Assad. The regime responded with helicopters and water cannons. There were unconfirmed reports that four protesters had been killed and hundreds injured.[71][73] A resident said that Syrian security forces have killed three protesters in Daraa.[71] The Syrian Government responded by claiming that unnamed "infiltrators" had been attempting to cause chaos.[77]
21 March
Protests started to spread further across the country.[84] Thousands of people took to the streets in Daraa and troops were sent to the city.[85] Hundreds of people protested in Jassem and there were reports of protests in Banias, Homs and Hama.[85][86]
It was reported that an 11-year-old boy had died of wounds suffered when Syrian security forces dispersed a protest rally in Daraa,[87] and meanwhile, the Beirut-based al Akhbar newspaper accused Lebanese caretaker Prime Minister Saad Hariri's Future Movement of paying the Syrian protesters something that which he immediately denied.[88]
Demonstrators in Daraa set fire to the ruling Baath Party’s headquarters and other government buildings. Police officers fired live ammunition into the crowds, killing at least one and wounding scores of others, witnesses said. al-Assad made some conciliatory gestures, but crowds continued to gather in and around the Omari mosque in Dara’a, chanting their demands: the release of all political prisoners; trials for those who shot and killed protesters; the abolition of Syria’s 48-year emergency law; more freedoms; and an end to pervasive corruption.[89]
Nearly a year later, and now the CBC shows the gory details daily.... We are being prepped for war...
Syria has as much in stake in the STL as Lebanon does now that Hezbollah is the elected Government. If some Syrian Generals were set-up to look guilty then the ones behind that action would be the guilty party, or at least a very strong possibility. An in-depth trial would resolve those issues and publications by that court would be broadcast to the public. If Lebanon and Syria are going to wander around courthouses they should get used to filing lots of stuff rather than trying to make appearances as few as possible. The 'defendants' and their 'defense team' (made up of superior court judges in Lebanon who play tennis with the Lebanese Judges sitting on the Judges Bench as part of the having to 'pay for your own prosecution' rule. Anyway, .... another day, ... having hotels and meals and investigators and such paid for by the 'court' (and billed to the Nations backing the cases, Lebanon pays 51% of the costs, might as well ring up some big charges if the trial is fixed anyway, make it long and expensive, it's the 'code of the WEST') (with appeals and that even their grandkids will have grandkids before the court hears the last argument)
Make full co-operation with the court on that case a first move as a 'reformed leadership' and send lots of 'proof' and watch how fast they get 'bombed' or more like 'allowed to have 10 bombs' for starters.
"The Ba'ath Arab Socialist Party (BASP), which will celebrate its 65th birthday this year, is facing an unprecedented challenge that could make this anniversary its last as "the leading party of society and state" as the party is defined in the eighth article of the constitution."
Syria Today | A Question of Principles
Just looked up the Syrian Constitution and it looks to me as if Syria needs a new one or at least an amendment removing mention of a specific politicial party from the constitution along with other amendments..
http://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/sy00000_.html
Syria Today | A Question of Principles
Just looked up the Syrian Constitution and it looks to me as if Syria needs a new one or at least an amendment removing mention of a specific politicial party from the constitution along with other amendments..
http://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/sy00000_.html
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You are right LG. Their constitution is therefore a load of BS. I can't see how anyone could possibly support the Syrian government now. Shelling densely populated urban areas is a war crime. I am against slaughtering innocent civilians. Our government arming the rebels. Syria is not Libya. The division is Sunni Muslims vs the Government which is supported by various religious minorities. If the insurgents violently overthrew the Syrian government, I doubt the killing would end.
Arming the Opposition Is Wrong Way to Unseat Syria’s Assad: View
The veto by Russia and China of a United Nations resolution urging a political transition in Syria and an end to the bloodshed there was, as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rightly put it, “a travesty.” The challenge now is to stop travesty from turning into tragedy.
President Barack Obama has seemingly ruled out “outside military intervention” for now. But given the Bashar al-Assad government’s murderous assaults, the outcome of Saturday’s UN vote has created a powerful temptation to arm Syria’s opposition, with the legitimate goal that its members should be able to defend themselves against a murderous regime.
After all, Qatar and other allies armed the Libyan opposition during its revolt last year, which was followed up with direct allied air support. And as Khalid Al Attiyah, Qatar’s minister of state for foreign affairs, so acidly put it, Russia and China have now given the Syrian regime “a license to kill.”
That temptation to arm the opposition, however, should be resisted. Syria is not Libya. High on the list of differences: the fault lines in Syrian society are sectarian. If the Arab League, the U.S. or the North Atlantic Treaty Organization were to arm the rebels, that could accelerate the downfall of Assad, but it would also ensure a much broader civil war. Syria’s Sunni majority might mark its victory by taking revenge on the minority Alawites and Christians who have largely stood with the regime. Those who armed them would bear some of the responsibility...
Arming the Opposition Is Wrong Way to Unseat Syria
Whoever arms the insurgents will share the blame for the resulting carnage. I don't see a peaceful way out. No matter what, a lot of innocent people are going to die.
Arming the Opposition Is Wrong Way to Unseat Syria’s Assad: View
The veto by Russia and China of a United Nations resolution urging a political transition in Syria and an end to the bloodshed there was, as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rightly put it, “a travesty.” The challenge now is to stop travesty from turning into tragedy.
President Barack Obama has seemingly ruled out “outside military intervention” for now. But given the Bashar al-Assad government’s murderous assaults, the outcome of Saturday’s UN vote has created a powerful temptation to arm Syria’s opposition, with the legitimate goal that its members should be able to defend themselves against a murderous regime.
After all, Qatar and other allies armed the Libyan opposition during its revolt last year, which was followed up with direct allied air support. And as Khalid Al Attiyah, Qatar’s minister of state for foreign affairs, so acidly put it, Russia and China have now given the Syrian regime “a license to kill.”
That temptation to arm the opposition, however, should be resisted. Syria is not Libya. High on the list of differences: the fault lines in Syrian society are sectarian. If the Arab League, the U.S. or the North Atlantic Treaty Organization were to arm the rebels, that could accelerate the downfall of Assad, but it would also ensure a much broader civil war. Syria’s Sunni majority might mark its victory by taking revenge on the minority Alawites and Christians who have largely stood with the regime. Those who armed them would bear some of the responsibility...
Arming the Opposition Is Wrong Way to Unseat Syria
Whoever arms the insurgents will share the blame for the resulting carnage. I don't see a peaceful way out. No matter what, a lot of innocent people are going to die.
Would Syrian troops be considered 'innocents'? So far about 1,000 have been killed, how many in Bahrain before the Government started shooting to kill?
and that reduction in $oil-sand$ development that was on the books for discussion but seems to have disappeared once Iran came up with some better and cheaper and closer product.
But at least he isn't a coward.
Still not clear on the concept I see. Saying that I understand the anger of the German people and why they would support the Nazi party in no way suggest that I support the Nazi party. It says I understand human nature. Pointing out the Dresden bombings does not negate Auschwitz it simply acknowledges the terrible things both sides have done.
Maybe it has to be pointed out repeatedly to some folks
A year ago, Bahrain and Syria had about the same number of protestors. However, since Bahrain is friendly to the west they did not become the object of a western destabilization effort, unlike Syria. If the same effort was made to destabilize Bahrain as Syria, then Bahrain would now be slaughtering their citizens like Syria. Instead, Bahrain was able to use military force to contain the uprising (at least for now). Enough torture and killing went on in Bahrain for our western media to manipulate perceptions with selected imagery and news stories.. Instead our MSM showed few to no images and as a result most Canadians are not aware of Bahrain's problems.... unlike Syria where our MSM does show us gory imagery.
FYI:
The 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising, sometimes called the February 14 Revolution (Arabic: ثورة 14 فبراير ) is a series of demonstrations, amounting to a sustained campaign of civil resistance, in the Persian Gulf country of Bahrain. As part of the revolutionary wave of protests in the Middle East and North Africa following the self-immolation of Mohammed Bouazizi in Tunisia, the Bahraini protests were initially aimed at achieving greater political freedom and equality for the majority Shia population, and expanded to a call to end the monarchy of King Hamad following a deadly night raid on 17 February against protesters at the Pearl Roundabout in Manama, known locally as the Bloody Thursday.
Deaths 60
Wounded 2700+
Arrested 2,929
Layoffs 4539
Torture ~1866
Exiled ~500
Students expelled 534
Meanwhile Syria continues to spiral out of control:
Syria: Homs under 'heaviest' shelling yet
Mother in Homs: "The outside world won't help us"
Continue reading the main story Syria Crisis
The Syrian city of Homs has come under renewed bombardment for the fifth day running - the heaviest so far, residents have told the BBC. Activists say tanks are on the streets, and pro-government militias are murdering civilians in their homes....
BBC News - Syria: Homs under 'heaviest' shelling yet
Latest numbers:
Death(s)
(H.R.W. claim): 3,500 civilians and 1,500 security forces (including defectors) killed (by 12 November)[38] Total: 5,000
(S.O.H.R. claim): 3,907 civilians and 1,297 security forces (including defectors) killed (by 19 January) Total: 5,204
(Avaaz claim): 7,276 civilians and security forces (including defectors) killed (by 24 January 2012) Total: 6,874
(U.N. claim): 6,200 civilians and defectors and 1,000 security forces killed (by 5 February 2012) Total: 7,200
(L.C.C. claim): 7,339 civilians and defectors killed (by 5 February 2012)
(Syrian government claim): 2,253 security forces, 754 insurgents and 700 civilians killed (by 8 February) Total: 3,707
Injuries:
15,000 protesters and civilians (by early February 2012)
1,300[36]-1,857 security forces (by late June 2011)
Arrested
60,000–80,000 kept in detention (as of November 2011)
Quite right. Bahrain had Iranians causing destabilization.
Maybe because in Bahrain, the King ordered an inquiry, and those that committed human rights violations were dealt with. Security forces were admonished for both allowing violations to happen, as well as not documenting those involved.
Your comparison, is as ridiculous as your claims of being anything like Gandhi.
The 'out of control spiral' is being controlled, don't be so niave.
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Lebanon also recently reported intercepting a cargo plane full of U.S. arms and intel that was destined for Al-Qaeda operatives inside of Syria. The deployment of special forces appears to be an attempt to counter Iran’s deployment of up to 15,000 soldiers to Syria to help the government put down the rebellion.
The attacks also come as the U.S. looks to sidestep the United Nations, who refused to intervene in Syria with a military force, by creating an international coalition to launch an attack against the Syria government and force regime change. The announcement of the international coalition follows warnings from top U.S. officials that the international militarization of Syria is growing closer.
Government think tanks and media reports reveal the purpose of U.S. military action in Syria is to prepare for war on Iran. President Obama recently invoked the NDAA declaring the threat from Iran an “National Emergency”. Following the invocation, western media stepped up anti-Iran propaganda with absurd reports, such as Iran training 1000s of female ninja assassins. Meanwhile, other signs that war with Iran is inevitable have surfaced. Diplomats have ordered gas masks as embassies in Israel make preparations for an Iran strike. Western media have also began emergency preparations to provide broadcast coverage of the war with Iran. The U.S. has deployed warships to the Persian gulf and has began secretly amassing troops in Kuwait.
In perhaps what is an attempt to prevent the war, U.S. officials have come forward and admitted that Israel is engaging in state sponsored terrorism. They have told NBC that Israel runs a terrorist organization known to conduct bombings, unconventional warfare, and targeted assassinations throughout the Middle East. The terrorist group, MEK, is responsible for a series of assassinations and bombing inside Iran over the last few years.
U.S. Arms Being Smuggled To Syria As Special Forces Direct Rebel Attacks
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Lebanon also recently reported intercepting a cargo plane full of U.S. arms and intel that was destined for Al-Qaeda operatives inside of Syria. The deployment of special forces appears to be an attempt to counter Iran’s deployment of up to 15,000 soldiers to Syria to help the government put down the rebellion.
The attacks also come as the U.S. looks to sidestep the United Nations, who refused to intervene in Syria with a military force, by creating an international coalition to launch an attack against the Syria government and force regime change. The announcement of the international coalition follows warnings from top U.S. officials that the international militarization of Syria is growing closer.
Government think tanks and media reports reveal the purpose of U.S. military action in Syria is to prepare for war on Iran. President Obama recently invoked the NDAA declaring the threat from Iran an “National Emergency”. Following the invocation, western media stepped up anti-Iran propaganda with absurd reports, such as Iran training 1000s of female ninja assassins. Meanwhile, other signs that war with Iran is inevitable have surfaced. Diplomats have ordered gas masks as embassies in Israel make preparations for an Iran strike. Western media have also began emergency preparations to provide broadcast coverage of the war with Iran. The U.S. has deployed warships to the Persian gulf and has began secretly amassing troops in Kuwait.
In perhaps what is an attempt to prevent the war, U.S. officials have come forward and admitted that Israel is engaging in state sponsored terrorism. They have told NBC that Israel runs a terrorist organization known to conduct bombings, unconventional warfare, and targeted assassinations throughout the Middle East. The terrorist group, MEK, is responsible for a series of assassinations and bombing inside Iran over the last few years.
U.S. Arms Being Smuggled To Syria As Special Forces Direct Rebel Attacks